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Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« on: May 10, 2018, 01:46:31 pm »
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By Jorge Bonilla | May 7, 2018 7:30 AM EDT

Once again, Univision's Jorge Ramos goes to a favorite trope of his - suggesting that Hispanics who don't follow ideological suit are race-traitors.

In an effort to gain some traction among Texas' Hispanic voters, Univision's weekly Al Punto show booked Democrat Congressman Beto O'Rourke, who is challenging incumbent U.S. Senator Ted Cruz in the 2018 midterm election. This exchange came three minutes into a six-minute interview, in which Jorge Ramos tries to speak his very deeply-held opinion, disguised as an oddly-framed question to O'Rourke:

    JORGE RAMOS, HOST, AL PUNTO: You have challenged Senator Ted Cruz to six debates, two of them in Spanish. Senator Cruz, with a touch of humor, has said that it would be very boring because he doesn’t speak Spanish very well. But if you won’t be able to debate with Senator Cruz, my question is: Do you believe that Senator Ted Cruz has betrayed other Latinos...other Latinos like him?...

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/latino/jorge-bonilla/2018/05/07/ramos-orourke-isnt-ted-cruz-race-traitor

I don't know what to do with this.  Does this make Paddy a "race traitor"?  Why is Ramos asking Paddy this? 

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 02:04:50 pm »
'Race Traitor'. There is a term one usually just sees identified with neo-nazis, white nationalists, and freepers types.

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 02:43:20 pm »
Despite representing a district whose constituents are overwhelmingly Hispanic, U.S. Rep. Robert “Beto” O’Rourke, D-El Paso, is ineligible for membership in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

https://www.texastribune.org/2013/07/24/city-el-paso-lacks-voice-hispanic-caucus/

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, a 26-member group established in 1976 and currently chaired by U.S. Rep. Rubén Hinojosa, D-Edinburg, includes as its goals “voicing and advancing, through the legislative process, issues affecting Hispanics in the United States, Puerto Rico and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands,” according to the organization’s mission statement. It also includes task forces on civil rights, education and labor, and diversity and inclusion.

O’Rourke, whose nickname is popular among Latinos, is not a member because he lacks Hispanic heritage.
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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 04:07:08 pm »
Two Latino families in our neighborhood.  Their teenage children, born and raised in the US, speak very little Spanish.
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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2018, 04:09:43 pm »
I don't know what to do with this.  Does this make Paddy a "race traitor"?  Why is Ramos asking Paddy this?

Beatoff is trafficking in Cultural Appropriation with his fake name. 

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2018, 04:20:34 pm »
Beatoff is trafficking in Cultural Appropriation with his fake name.

I understand that, but Paddy can't join the Congressional hispanics because he's got the wrong DNA even though he identifies as hispanic, but Cruz is a traitor because he's got the right DNA but doesn't act appropriately hispanic, but even so, he could join the Congressional hispanics. 

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2018, 04:35:22 pm »
I understand that, but Paddy can't join the Congressional hispanics because he's got the wrong DNA even though he identifies as hispanic, but Cruz is a traitor because he's got the right DNA but doesn't act appropriately hispanic, but even so, he could join the Congressional hispanics.

Hispanic is not a Race. It cannot be confirmed with a DNA test. It is an ethnicity.

Is there such a thing as Hispanic DNA?

What does the term Hispanic even mean?  According to the US government, “Hispanic” is not a race, but instead is an ethnicity.  Socially, many people either self-describe or are described as Hispanic, and it typically means that they are either from or are descended from inhabitants of a Latin American country*.  If it’s really an ethnicity, then why doesn’t it show up on DNA ethnicity results?

Genetically speaking, there is no real Hispanic ethnicity.  People who live in North and South America are extremely diverse.  From a genetic background perspective, people in Argentina, Mexico, and Costa Rica can have very little in common.  It is more useful to realize that people who live in those countries have immigrant ancestors from all over the world, just like people in the United States.


http://whoareyoumadeof.com/blog/2017/08/14/ancestry-dna-results-hispanic/

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2018, 04:40:15 pm »
Hispanic is not a Race. It cannot be confirmed with a DNA test. It is an ethnicity.

Actually I believe "Hispanic" is a Nixon invention because he wanted to create a new special interest group.

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 04:50:51 pm »
Hispanic is not a Race. It cannot be confirmed with a DNA test. It is an ethnicity.

Is there such a thing as Hispanic DNA?

What does the term Hispanic even mean?  According to the US government, “Hispanic” is not a race, but instead is an ethnicity.  Socially, many people either self-describe or are described as Hispanic, and it typically means that they are either from or are descended from inhabitants of a Latin American country*.  If it’s really an ethnicity, then why doesn’t it show up on DNA ethnicity results?

Genetically speaking, there is no real Hispanic ethnicity.  People who live in North and South America are extremely diverse.  From a genetic background perspective, people in Argentina, Mexico, and Costa Rica can have very little in common.  It is more useful to realize that people who live in those countries have immigrant ancestors from all over the world, just like people in the United States.


http://whoareyoumadeof.com/blog/2017/08/14/ancestry-dna-results-hispanic/

Yeah, that's not what I meant.  ^-^

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2018, 05:14:07 pm »
Beatoff is trafficking in Cultural Appropriation with his fake name.

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Re: Ramos to O'Rourke: Isn't Ted Cruz A Race-Traitor?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2018, 05:14:38 pm »
Actually I believe "Hispanic" is a Nixon invention because he wanted to create a new special interest group.

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Richard Nixon and the Invention of Hispanics

Thinking of Hispanics as a single demographic group is a creation of Washington. It was first used on the Census ballot of 1970, to classify everyone south of the Rio Grande. “Hispanic” is a label that exists only in the context of the United States and it severely limits us from understanding the behavior of people of different races and ethnicities who come from totally different (and sometimes adversarial) countries.

http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com/2005/09/how-richard-nixon-invented-hispanics.html