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I'm sorry, I thought you said "If the opportunity to vote for that liar Trump came up again tomorrow, I’d get up extra early to make sure I got a place in line."  So you mean you will vote for Trump again if he faces Hillary? wut?

You're quoting another poster with that...nonetheless...I WOULD get up early to vote again. Because whoever the Left puts forward, their mission will be to install the agenda of the Left, and I would vote for a polygamous goat to halt that insanity. Contesting a primary just guarantees failure and surrender to that same Left agenda...so, yes, I will vote early and often for President Trump, because his win in 2020 is all that stands between us as a nation and the implementation of socialism/deconstruction of the Bill of Rights.
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Typical Trump supporter behavior.  Just like their hero, Trump fans excuse, blame others and gloss over their hero's failures. 

So boinking some chippies while married and then lying about it doesn't bother you.  Would you be so forgiving if your spouse did the same?  I sure hope not.  But it's been my experience that people who once had some ethics threw them all away when Trump came along.  Clinton boinked and raped women, then lied about it, and many of the same people who were appalled by sucnh behavior then now think it's ok as long as it's Trump doing the same or similar. 

Was any of this illegal and grounds for impeachment?  i don't know.  But it's all immoral and unethical.  And when we start excusing immorality and apply ethics selectively, the country slides into ruin.  So what other bad behavior will Trump supporters excuse and gloss over next?

I agree.  We've come to a point in this country where immorality is now accepted; in fact in the case of same sex marriage; law.  Ethical practices and integrity are a rarity; it used to be a 'handshake' between two people meant they would keep and their word as their honor was a stake. 

No, I don't think Trump has broken any laws other than the 'laws' of integrity and morality.  To a growing number, morality and integrity don't mean squat anymore.
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Yeah. Right. The flash in the pan movement that was but a brief moment in the timeline of the country and is all but gone today except for a few rusty Ford F-150's with faded Gadsden flags festooned to their bumper.

THE MSM did a successful smear job of the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.   The concept of "Taxed Enough Already" seemed like a pretty sound concept to me.  I guess those like you like get taxed to death.   Carry On with the orange agenda!!!!!!

And p.s..   don't give me the Trump Tax Break speech.  The fuel surcharge will negate that nicely
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THE MSM did a successful smear job of the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.   

The Republican Establishment and Party did more to damage the TEA Party than the Left did. 

Far more.

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Yeah, same here.   Good thing I've got poppers (bacon wrapped jalapenos) in the oven and key lime pi in the freezer.  (stomach growling)


Will you cut it into 3.14 pieces?    :laugh:
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Will you cut it into 3.14 pieces?    :laugh:

Lol!

No.
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The Republican Establishment and Party did more to damage the TEA Party than the Left did. 

Far more.

Respectfully disagree.  Smear was a concerted effort by MSM to erroneously paint TEA Party members as racist. The slime got footing, and movement could not recover to message.

I'll grant the  GOP R"INO factions did some damage too, but to a lesser degree
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Respectfully disagree.  Smear was a concerted effort by MSM to erroneously paint TEA Party members as racist. The slime got footing, and movement could not recover to message.

I'll grant the  GOP R"INO factions did some damage too, but to a lesser degree

Not here in KY.  Team Mitch was responsible for killing most of the grassroots out here.
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Not here in KY.  Team Mitch was responsible for killing most of the grassroots out here.

Yup he sure was.

And he's made sure it carried over to the National level with ol Turtle.

He's threatened consultants and ad agencies that the GOP would cut off doing business with that particular company if they did business during a campaign with anyone that wasn't on the McConnell approved list of candidates.
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Enjoy the consequences. 

I'm simply sick and tired of all the attempts being made by self-identifying Conservatives to convince the rest of us that moral character is no longer necessary in our leaders.

If I do as you suggest will you stop with the endless pious yammering lectures?

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You're quoting another poster with that...nonetheless...I WOULD get up early to vote again. Because whoever the Left puts forward, their mission will be to install the agenda of the Left, and I would vote for a polygamous goat to halt that insanity. Contesting a primary just guarantees failure and surrender to that same Left agenda...so, yes, I will vote early and often for President Trump, because his win in 2020 is all that stands between us as a nation and the implementation of socialism/deconstruction of the Bill of Rights.

Amen, brother, and why other people cannot see the danger we face if the left gets even a foothold of power is something I cannot understand.

@Mesaclone

Here's what Bernie Sanders wants to do and, by the way, he is probably the most popular democrat right now.

"As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the standard-bearer for the party's left flank in 2016, once again is helping to lead the charge. He reportedly is set to announce a plan that will guarantee a $15-an-hour job -- and health-care benefits -- to every American “who wants or needs one.” The plan, first reported by The Washington Post, would fund hundreds of government projects such as “infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals.”
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If I do as you suggest will you stop with the endless pious yammering lectures?

Nope, because he lives for that.
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You're quoting another poster with that...nonetheless...I WOULD get up early to vote again. Because whoever the Left puts forward, their mission will be to install the agenda of the Left, and I would vote for a polygamous goat to halt that insanity. Contesting a primary just guarantees failure and surrender to that same Left agenda...so, yes, I will vote early and often for President Trump, because his win in 2020 is all that stands between us as a nation and the implementation of socialism/deconstruction of the Bill of Rights.
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My apologies for the misquote.  I understand where you are coming from.  I used to justify my GOP vote by saying the number one thing a Republican win means is the defeat of a rat, but that was a time when I saw the GOP as substantially better on the issues I care about.

Every election I'm told is the most important election in history.  Yet President Trump has proved the job can be done a few hours a day 3-4 days a week, and he has provided a benchmark for what the worst GOP president in history looks like.  I could not support him if the election was tomorrow. 
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I agree.  We've come to a point in this country where immorality is now accepted; in fact in the case of same sex marriage; law.  Ethical practices and integrity are a rarity; it used to be a 'handshake' between two people meant they would keep and their word as their honor was a stake. 

No, I don't think Trump has broken any laws other than the 'laws' of integrity and morality.  To a growing number, morality and integrity don't mean squat anymore.

I think you are being a little too gloomy about this country @libertybele   You are basing your assessment on the total lack of morality in Hollywood and among people in power.

People are still ethical in 'middle America.'  I mean everyone I know is good; most are faithful to their spouses; most pay their bills and raise their children in a moral way.

As for Trump, I don't like a lot of what he did in the past, but what do his detractors think they would get if a democrat were elected?  That party loves immorality and practices it faithfully.
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Yeah. Right. The flash in the pan movement that was but a brief moment in the timeline of the country and is all but gone today except for a few rusty Ford F-150's with faded Gadsden flags festooned to their bumper.

Hey, watch it, @Frank Cannon.  I don't have the bumper sticker but I still have my "I believe Juanita" pin that I wore to some rallies.
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Amen, brother, and why other people cannot see the danger we face if the left gets even a foothold of power is something I cannot understand.

@Mesaclone

Here's what Bernie Sanders wants to do and, by the way, he is probably the most popular democrat right now.

"As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the standard-bearer for the party's left flank in 2016, once again is helping to lead the charge. He reportedly is set to announce a plan that will guarantee a $15-an-hour job -- and health-care benefits -- to every American “who wants or needs one.” The plan, first reported by The Washington Post, would fund hundreds of government projects such as “infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals.”
@Emjay

My recollection, from so long ago, is that President Trump wanted to Build the Wall, Repeal and Replace Obamacare, Lock up Crooked Hillary, and Draining the Swamp.  He has a GOP house and Senate.  He ain't done none of it.

Yet Bernie is going to burn the Constitution.  That argument gets weaker for me with each passing tweet.
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The GOP landscape and pathway for Trump, was Milk w Toast, losers like Dole, McCain, Romney and many others with zero fight.

Do you live in the delusion, thinking if only Cruz was nominated, he would have won and the democrats and media would have honored the results, and not initiated a Coup to take him down?

That's interesting @truth_seeker.  I really wanted Ted Cruz to win the nomination, but as time goes by I'm beginning to wonder if he could have beaten Hillary.

Trump had (and still has) the gift of reaching the people with his ideas and creating fervent followers.

And, yes, if Ted Cruz had won, the media would have treated him just as cruelly as they are treating Trump.  Trump gives them ammunition I'll admit, but he also lashes back.
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Typical Trump supporter behavior.  Just like their hero, Trump fans excuse, blame others and gloss over their hero's failures. 

So boinking some chippies while married and then lying about it doesn't bother you.  Would you be so forgiving if your spouse did the same?  I sure hope not.  But it's been my experience that people who once had some ethics threw them all away when Trump came along.  Clinton boinked and raped women, then lied about it, and many of the same people who were appalled by sucnh behavior then now think it's ok as long as it's Trump doing the same or similar. 

Was any of this illegal and grounds for impeachment?  i don't know.  But it's all immoral and unethical.  And when we start excusing immorality and apply ethics selectively, the country slides into ruin.  So what other bad behavior will Trump supporters excuse and gloss over next?

@Applewood.  I notice you completely ignored my list of what Trump has done and is doing for the country and chose to fall back on his sexual behavior.

I would prefer a more staid and moral President if he combined that with the drive and ability to help things that are hurting our country. 

VP Pence is so moral that the leftist pigs make fun of him for only dining with his wife.  I like Pence but I'm not sure he would be a great president.

As far as my husband is concerned, I will not discuss him with the likes of you.  He was the best man ever.
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THE MSM did a successful smear job of the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.   The concept of "Taxed Enough Already" seemed like a pretty sound concept to me.  I guess those like you like get taxed to death.   Carry On with the orange agenda!!!!!!

And p.s..   don't give me the Trump Tax Break speech.  The fuel surcharge will negate that nicely

LOL. You say that like it is meaningful. Concepts aren't worth a damn if they don't do anything. Soros has been beat up and his groups shut down, but he keeps motoring along. Where are the Tea Party groups railing and working against all these offenses you cite? Oh yeah. The so called leaders of it turned out to be money grubbing dirtbags using it as a piggy bank.

BTW where is this new Trump surcharge that has you bent out of shape? Oh yeah. It doesn't exist.

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Nope, because he lives for that.

I believe he thinks of himself as a "Lord Protector-Oliver Cromwell-like" figure, with his symbolic Invar sword (sans actual service to our country).

Repetitious rhetoric, repetitious rhetoric. Did I repeat myself?
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I believe he thinks of himself as a "Lord Protector-Oliver Cromwell-like" figure, with his symbolic Invar sword (sans actual service to our country).

Repetitious rhetoric, repetitious rhetoric. Did I repeat myself?

@truth_seeker   You spoke truth and the horrible thing is he apparently does nothing else but post on TBR.  I put him back on ignore and am a happier girl for that.
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Enjoy the consequences. 

I'm simply sick and tired of all the attempts being made by self-identifying Conservatives to convince the rest of us that moral character is no longer necessary in our leaders.

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BTW where is this new Trump surcharge that has you bent out of shape? Oh yeah. It doesn't exist.

Coming soon from an orange turd near you........

http://www.ttnews.com/articles/report-trump-supports-25-cent-fuel-tax-increase-fund-infrastructure

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Coming soon from an orange turd near you........

http://www.ttnews.com/articles/report-trump-supports-25-cent-fuel-tax-increase-fund-infrastructure

@Frank Cannon

Yeah. Trump also supported bombing the shit out of Rocket Man. Don't see that happening anytime soon either. Wake me up when you have actual things happening that is worth worrying about. Right now my plate is full trying to decide what expensive and cool car I'm driving to work tomorrow.


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My apologies for the misquote.  I understand where you are coming from.  I used to justify my GOP vote by saying the number one thing a Republican win means is the defeat of a rat, but that was a time when I saw the GOP as substantially better on the issues I care about.

Every election I'm told is the most important election in history.  Yet President Trump has proved the job can be done a few hours a day 3-4 days a week, and he has provided a benchmark for what the worst GOP president in history looks like.  I could not support him if the election was tomorrow.

No worries on the misquote, it happens. No biggie.

But let me correct you on something. I'm not "justifying" my vote on anything, I'm simply telling you why no person of good conscience could do otherwise. Turning on Trump because he had an affair in 2006 and paid the bimbo off, would be like dumping Ulysses S. Grant on the eve of his Vicksburg campaign because he drank too much and was a philanderer...absolute idiocy.

The alternative to the Union was a slave holding Confederacy, much like the alternative to Trump as President is a Dem government that will enslave all of us to its abrogation of the Bill of Rights, empower the arbiters of political correctness to destroy our culture and level draconian taxation to emplace a Socialistic economy.

What kind of fool, in the face of THAT, would undermine, remove and/or...by the absence of positive action...allow the abrogation of all our cherished freedoms. Trump is nothing less than our very own Hodor...the monsters are at the gate, scratching and clawing to destroy all that we hold precious about this nation...he is HOLDING THAT DAMN DOOR whilst some good conservatives/Republicans do nothing but snipe, flee, or sit on their hands decrying his imperfections. Its a kind of insanity...a hubris extremis.

As Lincoln said (paraphrasing) after the failure of Grant's experimental explorations around Vicksburg and the General was charged with being a whiskey drinker, “Ah!” exclaimed Honest Old Abe, “you surprise me, gentlemen. But can you tell me where he gets his whiskey?” “We cannot, Mr. President. But why do you desire to know?” “Because, if I can only find out, I will send a barrel of this wonderful whiskey to every general in the army.”

So, please, tell me where President Trump found his porn star liaison...because I'd like to send one to every congressional Republican if that's what it takes to make them grow a pair. Like Grant, "We cannot spare this man Trump...because he FIGHTS!".
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