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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2018, 08:09:51 pm »
According to Hannity..just advice nothing else

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Then IMHO technically Hannity wasn't a client in the classic sense and the media is wetting themselves over nothing.
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2018, 08:10:01 pm »
So he has three clients.  Does that make him a real lawyer?
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2018, 08:10:47 pm »
I have no idea. If Cohen had 50 clients would he have to name them all, in public, in the courtroom? Would Mueller be allowed to see everything concerning all 50 clients?

How is attorney-client privilege not severely violated here?

When it serves the Oligarchy and the"Deep State", there is no such thing as Attorney-Client Privilege.  Neither is there a right to privacy, a right to speak, a right to exercise religion or a right to keep and bear arms.

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2018, 08:10:53 pm »
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Then IMHO technically Hannity wasn't a client in the classic sense and the media is wetting themselves over nothing.

There's definitely some missing information here...

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2018, 08:10:56 pm »
According to Hannity..just advice nothing else

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2018, 08:12:17 pm »
So he has three clients.  Does that make him a real lawyer?

The only thing for certain is he's not a very good lawyer regardless of his "connections"...

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2018, 08:12:40 pm »
According to Hannity..just advice nothing else

I have received bar-room and dinner party advice from lawyers who I knew personally several times. However, the difference between me and Hannity is that these guys never listed me as a 'client'.
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2018, 08:13:39 pm »
I have received bar-room and dinner party advice from lawyers who I knew personally several times. However, the difference between me and Hannity is that these guys never listed me as a 'client'.

How do you know?

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2018, 08:14:07 pm »
If Hannity only used Cohen as an unpaid consultant on background for legal issues he addressed on his radio and/or TV show is he truly a client?

I think historically that has been construed as 'yes' or at least the convos are still privileged. I just fail to see why he needed to be outed in public, in a courtroom. Would this apply to anyone else Cohen did legal work for or gave advice to, if he had more clients or people picking his brain?
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2018, 08:14:42 pm »
When it serves the Oligarchy and the"Deep State", there is no such thing as Attorney-Client Privilege.  Neither is there a right to privacy, a right to speak, a right to exercise religion or a right to keep and bear arms.

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2018, 08:19:04 pm »
How do you know?

You're right. I don't know for sure. I can't imagine them doing that, but I do not know specifically if they did or not.
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2018, 08:20:26 pm »
I think historically that has been construed as 'yes' or at least the convos are still privileged. I just fail to see why he needed to be outed in public, in a courtroom. Would this apply to anyone else Cohen did legal work for or gave advice to, if he had more clients or people picking his brain?

IMHO being forced to "out" Hannity...like the raid on Cohen's house and office...is some more brinksmanship on the part of the Mueller probe to try and push Trump to fire him.

Kimba Wood is the senior Justice for e Southern District of New York.  IIRC Mueller's #2 worked in that office and more than likely leaked to the current U.S. Attorney what they needed to get the warrant on Cohen.

To me that smacks of collusion between Muller and the Judges/lawyers for the Southern District of NY.

What better way to embarrass the President more than they already have than to do this big "reveal" of one of the President's favorite TV hosts in open court?
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2018, 08:20:48 pm »
According to Hannity when he asked Cohen for advice he always ended the conversation with *attorney/client privilege, right*..in other words Cohen was obligated to keep it quiet but may have considered him a client when Hannity didn't
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2018, 08:25:47 pm »
According to Hannity when he asked Cohen for advice he always ended the conversation with *attorney/client privilege, right*..in other words Cohen was obligated to keep it quiet but may have considered him a client when Hannity didn't

How can there be privilege if there's no contract, retainer or payment???

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2018, 08:29:54 pm »
How can there be privilege if there's no contract, retainer or payment???

If he's providing legal counsel it is covered.  Normally anyway
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2018, 08:33:28 pm »
Hannity discussing this now..he has never hired, retained or paid Cohen for legal services.


Which means there’s no privilege.
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2018, 08:34:25 pm »
Hannity already has a team of lawyers I would imagine. So the only thing I can think of is cohen has been the middle guy for trump and hannity?So they can use attorney client privilege?

Although the fact hannity has denied it makes things a bit more weird doesn't it?

If a "client" doesn't' believe someone is their lawyer, does that scrap the whole attorney client privilege thing?

also if cohen has lied about hannity being a client (If hannity is speaking the truth), is he now in trouble for lying to a judge?

Sorry for all the questions, whole situation seems bizzare.

 
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2018, 08:34:49 pm »
Another way to look at it is to view it in the reverse. If Cohen had given up all this info voluntarily and uncoerced to the public, would he have been disbarred?

In most states, the answer would be yes.
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2018, 08:34:56 pm »
If he's providing legal counsel it is covered.  Normally anyway

I don't think that is the case. Lawyers aren't priests.

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2018, 08:39:00 pm »
They both are probably telling the truth.

Hannity probably hired him to work on his MMA stuff.

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2018, 08:39:18 pm »
You're right. I don't know for sure. I can't imagine them doing that, but I do not know specifically if they did or not.

I've received free legal advice from counsel in their office.  They told me it was covered.
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2018, 08:40:54 pm »
They both are probably telling the truth.

Hannity probably hired him to work on his MMA stuff.

"Hired" without pay or a retainer?

Or is this more of Cohen using "his own money" to benefit clients?

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2018, 08:41:17 pm »
Hannity said he has at least 7 or 8 lawyers...never considered Cohen as one..just friends who he occasionally asked legal advice from..I guess Cohen thought differently although he was never officially hired, retained or billed..he will discuss this later on his show tonight
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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2018, 08:42:04 pm »
...and joking aside, it seems very reasonable that Cohen may have given advice for free to someone like Hannity.  He may be looking at it as starting a professional relationship with someone of media influence.  Like a free sample at Baskin Robbins.

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Re: Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2018, 08:42:54 pm »
I've received free legal advice from counsel in their office.  They told me it was covered.

Did you sign anything and did you believe you were a client in doing so? Or was the counsel someone you already had agreements with.

Hannity says he wasn't a client.