Trump Tower fire victim didn’t have functioning smoke detector in his apartment, says FDNY

[TomSea]

Trump Tower fire victim didn’t have functioning smoke detector in his apartment, says FDNY
BY Laura Dimon Erin Durkin Esha Ray
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, April 9, 2018, 5:52 PM

Smoke detectors save lives — and one might have saved the man who died in Saturday’s blaze in Trump Tower.

Todd Brassner’s apartment didn’t have a working smoke detector, FDNY officials said Monday.

Firefighters rushed over to the Fifth Ave. high-rise after a building-wide alarm system alerted them to the blaze, officials said.

By the time they arrived, Brassner, a 67-year-old art dealer, was unconscious on the 50th floor.

Continued at: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/trump-tower-fire-victim-didn-working-smoke-detector-article-1.3924370

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[mountaineer]

I guess he should have bought one, then.

[guitar4jesus]

I guess he should have bought one, then.

I believe it's the landlord's responsibility to provide the detector.  However, the tenant usually has some responsibility in ensuring it is functioning.  Not sure what the current NYS/NYC rules are.

[mountaineer]

I don't know about NYC, but in commonsense land, a person provides his own smoke detector.

[thackney]

I guess he should have bought one, then.

Many years ago, I had a co-worker who bought a new smoke detector for his house.  Took it out of the package, put in the battery and it immediately went off and would not shut off.  He fiddled with it a bit, taking the battery in an out a few times.  Disgusted, he grabbed the receipt and headed back to the story to get a replacement unit that worked.

When he got home the second time, his house was on fire....

[guitar4jesus]

Many years ago, I had a co-worker who bought a new smoke detector for his house.  Took it out of the package, put in the battery and it immediately went off and would not shut off.  He fiddled with it a bit, taking the battery in an out a few times.  Disgusted, he grabbed the receipt and headed back to the story to get a replacement unit that worked.

When he got home the second time, his house was on fire....

WOW!

[ABX]

I believe it's the landlord's responsibility to provide the detector.  However, the tenant usually has some responsibility in ensuring it is functioning.  Not sure what the current NYS/NYC rules are.

At least Trump didn't personally lobby the government to be exempted from fire safety rules such as this, using cronyism to skimp on safety.... oh wait..

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Donald-Trump-once-lobbied-against-fire-sprinklers-12817308.php

http://www.standard.net/National/2018/04/09/Donald-Trump-once-lobbied-against-fire-sprinklers-in-existing-New-York-high-rises-including-Trump-Tower

[thackney]

WOW!

Yep, should have spent a little time the first time, looking around the house.

[guitar4jesus]

Yep, should have spent a little time the first time, looking around the house.

No kidding.

[WingNot]

Many years ago, I had a co-worker who bought a new smoke detector for his house.  Took it out of the package, put in the battery and it immediately went off and would not shut off.  He fiddled with it a bit, taking the battery in an out a few times.  Disgusted, he grabbed the receipt and headed back to the story to get a replacement unit that worked.

When he got home the second time, his house was on fire....

Now that is funny right there.  I don't care who you are!

[truth_seeker]

I believe it's the landlord's responsibility to provide the detector.  However, the tenant usually has some responsibility in ensuring it is functioning.  Not sure what the current NYS/NYC rules are.

I'm pretty certain, the rules/laws/regulations on this, very from city to county to state across the fruited plains.

In SoCal, one town might have a city inspection (including mainly safety concerns) upon change of ownership. But no further inspections until the next change of ownership.

Newport Beach, for example. the major concern in this wealthy area, is "bootlegs" rentals which generate money for owner, but create parking issues for neighbors, and unruly short term renters.

There are state laws about smoke and CO2 alarm devices, but no official inspections. Sellers and buyers agree on a contract that they were disclosed relevant information. A buyer might stipulate that all safety items get installed as conditions of closing the sale.

I am not aware of jurisdictions which have any records along those lines. However they are fully up to speed for collecting any taxes.
 

[thackney]

I'm pretty certain, the rules/laws/regulations on this, very from city to county to state across the fruited plains....

NYC requires the owner to provide CO and smoke detector but the resident has some responsibility to maintain battery, working order and provide notice if not working.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/hpd/owners/Smoke-carbon-monoxide-detectors.page

[guitar4jesus]

NYC requires the owner to provide CO and smoke detector but the resident has some responsibility to maintain battery, working order and provide notice if not working.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/hpd/owners/Smoke-carbon-monoxide-detectors.page

Yeah, that's the way I remember it but I haven't lived up there in over 20 years.