LSD making comeback as professionals drop ACID before work

[rangerrebew]

 LSD making comeback as professionals drop ACID before work

EATING tiny amounts of psychedelics like LSD can improve performance in the office and on the track, experts have shockingly claimed.
 
By Tom Fish / Published 8th April 2018
 
With their power to melt minds, psychedelics have a fearsome reputation.

But a growing consensus of professionals and athletes believe taking smaller and smarter doses of psychedelics can improve performance both in the office and on the track.

From heightening creativity and focus at work to improving PB’s and enhancing endurance, psychedelics' positive potential is gaining acceptance.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/690898/lsd-acid-microdosing-microdose-drugs-dark-web

[ABX]

I understand one of the new 'hipster' things is home brewing ergot (which is one of the chemical components of LSD).  They make a very mild tea with this. And technically, as it is just a natural fungus that grows on rye and other grains, it skirts the law.

[catfish1957]

But a growing consensus of professionals and athletes believe taking smaller and smarter doses of psychedelics can improve performance both in the office and on the track.

Back in tne early '70's I read that Dock Eliis of Pirates pitched a no-hitter during an Acid Trip.   Never done hallucinogens, but you got to admit that is pretty amazing.

[catfish1957]

just a natural fungus that grows on rye and other grains, it skirts the law.

Don't kids get busted for Magic Mushrooms?

[dfwgator]

Marijuana Marijuana
LSD LSD
Scientists make it
Teachers take it
Why can't we?
Why can't we?

[ABX]

Don't kids get busted for Magic Mushrooms?

Hallucinogenic mushrooms are illegal to possess, but ergot isn't. It is classified as a poison, but isn't currently scheduled.

https://erowid.org/plants/ergot/ergot_law.shtml

I'm sure some bureaucrat in the DOJ will figure this out pretty soon, especially as hipsters are brewing teas from it, and add it to the list.

[catfish1957]

I understand one of the new 'hipster' things is home brewing ergot (which is one of the chemical components of LSD).  They make a very mild tea with this. And technically, as it is just a natural fungus that grows on rye and other grains, it skirts the law.

Now, its coming back to me.  I have read that historians believe that some ergot tainted grains prompted some visions back in 1692 MA that triggered a lot of the witch hysteria.

[thackney]

I understand one of the new 'hipster' things is home brewing ergot (which is one of the chemical components of LSD).  They make a very mild tea with this. And technically, as it is just a natural fungus that grows on rye and other grains, it skirts the law.

Brilliant.

Ergotism is the effect of long-term ergot poisoning, traditionally due to the ingestion of the alkaloids produced by the Claviceps purpurea fungus that infects rye and other cereals, and more recently by the action of a number of ergoline-based drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism

he symptoms can be roughly divided into convulsive symptoms and gangrenous symptoms.

Convulsive symptoms of ergotism

Convulsive symptoms include painful seizures and spasms, diarrhea, paresthesias, itching, mental effects including mania or psychosis, headaches, nausea and vomiting. Usually the gastrointestinal effects precede central nervous system effects.

Gangrenous

The dry gangrene is a result of vasoconstriction induced by the ergotamine-ergocristine alkaloids of the fungus. It affects the more poorly vascularized distal structures, such as the fingers and toes. Symptoms include desquamation or peeling, weak peripheral pulses, loss of peripheral sensation, edema and ultimately the death and loss of affected tissues.

[Free Vulcan]

I understand one of the new 'hipster' things is home brewing ergot (which is one of the chemical components of LSD).  They make a very mild tea with this. And technically, as it is just a natural fungus that grows on rye and other grains, it skirts the law.

Can't believe they haven't rediscovered jimpson weed seed yet.

I am glad though the Milllennials recycle.

[catfish1957]

Brilliant.

Ergotism is the effect of long-term ergot poisoning, traditionally due to the ingestion of the alkaloids produced by the Claviceps purpurea fungus that infects rye and other cereals, and more recently by the action of a number of ergoline-based drugs.

You do realize this is the same generation that eats Tide Pods?

[ABX]

Brilliant.

Ergotism is the effect of long-term ergot poisoning, traditionally due to the ingestion of the alkaloids produced by the Claviceps purpurea fungus that infects rye and other cereals, and more recently by the action of a number of ergoline-based drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism

he symptoms can be roughly divided into convulsive symptoms and gangrenous symptoms.

Convulsive symptoms of ergotism

Convulsive symptoms include painful seizures and spasms, diarrhea, paresthesias, itching, mental effects including mania or psychosis, headaches, nausea and vomiting. Usually the gastrointestinal effects precede central nervous system effects.

Gangrenous

The dry gangrene is a result of vasoconstriction induced by the ergotamine-ergocristine alkaloids of the fungus. It affects the more poorly vascularized distal structures, such as the fingers and toes. Symptoms include desquamation or peeling, weak peripheral pulses, loss of peripheral sensation, edema and ultimately the death and loss of affected tissues.

The old saying goes, the poison is in the dose. Plus, from what I've seen, there is some certain processing they do that strips out many of the poisonous compounds to leave mostly Lysergic Acid.

[ABX]

You do realize this is the same generation that eats Tide Pods?

We like to make fun of millennials for this, but it is actually Gen Z that really fits into this. (hipsters fit into Millennial and late Gen Y), Gen Z are high school and early college now .

[Frank Cannon]

Meh. Micro dosing has been going on for years.

[musiclady]

Well, I suppose when you get rid of old fashioned work ethic and remove creativity in kids, they feel the need to replace it with something to do their jobs.

One more sign that our culture is in the toilet.

[dfwgator]

We like to make fun of millennials for this, but it is actually Gen Z that really fits into this. (hipsters fit into Millennial and late Gen Y), Gen Z are high school and early college now .

Before Tide Pods, there was Toad Licking.

[Smokin Joe]

Now, its coming back to me.  I have read that historians believe that some ergot tainted grains prompted some visions back in 1692 MA that triggered a lot of the witch hysteria.

And may have had a hand in the French Revolution (and The Terror). "Let them eat cake!", rather than a heartless admonition, the rye in France was contaminated with ergot. Bread was chiefly made from rye, but cake, requiring a finer four, was made from wheat, and the wheat was not contaminated. Just imagine thousands of p-o'ed peasants storming the walls on an acid trip....)

[Elderberry]

I understand one of the new 'hipster' things is home brewing ergot (which is one of the chemical components of LSD).  They make a very mild tea with this. And technically, as it is just a natural fungus that grows on rye and other grains, it skirts the law.

If you are making tea, Ayahuasca would be much safer than ergot.

Ayahuasca is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose. Similar to other psychedelic drugs, there are relatively few physical side effects associated with ayahuasca. Various studies have shown that it presents no negative cognitive, psychiatric or toxic physical consequences of any sort when taken in reasonable doses and a careful context

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ayahuasca

[ABX]

Well, I suppose when you get rid of old fashioned work ethic and remove creativity in kids, they feel the need to replace it with something to do their jobs.

One more sign that our culture is in the toilet.

I disagree that this is about work ethic. Every generation, even the ones we look back and revere with their great work ethic, had these type of coping mechanisms for high demand jobs. Before this, people were snorting coke at work. Before that, pot. Before that, drinking on the job. I believe this is part of human nature that we don't always like to look at. We aren't evolved to sit in dark offices and cubes 8-12 hours per day staring at screens and spreadsheets. I wouldn't touch pot, LSD, or any of that (even if I am for legalization) but I make up for it in massive amounts of caffeine and lots of B (especially when I'm pulling in 7 days a week, 11 hour+ days in front of a computer).  These are all types of performance enhancers to do more, not to slack off.

In some places, like Japan, where culturally this kind of stuff is frowned upon, they are having high suicide and death rates due to long work hours (karoshi). I couldn't even imagine how I would be mentally if I had to put in the hours I do now, but add to that long commutes. I'm lucky, I get to work at home and am allowed whatever distractions I give myself (as long as the projects get done on time and in budget).

[Smokin Joe]

I disagree that this is about work ethic. Every generation, even the ones we look back and revere with their great work ethic, had these type of coping mechanisms for high demand jobs. Before this, people were snorting coke at work. Before that, pot. Before that, drinking on the job. I believe this is part of human nature that we don't always like to look at. We aren't evolved to sit in dark offices and cubes 8-12 hours per day staring at screens and spreadsheets. I wouldn't touch pot, LSD, or any of that (even if I am for legalization) but I make up for it in massive amounts of caffeine and lots of B (especially when I'm pulling in 7 days a week, 11 hour+ days in front of a computer).  These are all types of performance enhancers to do more, not to slack off.

In some places, like Japan, where culturally this kind of stuff is frowned upon, they are having high suicide and death rates due to long work hours (karoshi). I couldn't even imagine how I would be mentally if I had to put in the hours I do now, but add to that long commutes. I'm lucky, I get to work at home and am allowed whatever distractions I give myself (as long as the projects get done on time and in budget).

When tobacco got chased out of the workplace, something was going to fill the void. Coffee is pretty common yet.

[WingNot]

Meh. Micro dosing has been going on for years.

To get back to the warning that I’ve received, you might take it with however many grains of salt you wish, that the brown acid that is circulating around us is not specifically too good. It's suggested that you do stay away from that. Of course it’s your own trip, so be my guest. But please be advised that there’s a warning on that one, okay?

[240B]

DON'T TAKE THE BROWN ACID!

[musiclady]

I disagree that this is about work ethic. Every generation, even the ones we look back and revere with their great work ethic, had these type of coping mechanisms for high demand jobs. Before this, people were snorting coke at work. Before that, pot. Before that, drinking on the job. I believe this is part of human nature that we don't always like to look at. We aren't evolved to sit in dark offices and cubes 8-12 hours per day staring at screens and spreadsheets. I wouldn't touch pot, LSD, or any of that (even if I am for legalization) but I make up for it in massive amounts of caffeine and lots of B (especially when I'm pulling in 7 days a week, 11 hour+ days in front of a computer).  These are all types of performance enhancers to do more, not to slack off.

In some places, like Japan, where culturally this kind of stuff is frowned upon, they are having high suicide and death rates due to long work hours (karoshi). I couldn't even imagine how I would be mentally if I had to put in the hours I do now, but add to that long commutes. I'm lucky, I get to work at home and am allowed whatever distractions I give myself (as long as the projects get done on time and in budget).

You make some good points here, but I still believe that the younger generations' overall lack of work ethic contributes to this kind of problem.

Obviously there are many who still know how to work hard and do so, but as we raised four kids (now all in their thirties), we saw how exceptional they were in their ability to work, relative to their peers.   If you don't have the self-discipline to do what's difficult to do, then needing chemical help along the way is likely.   (It would be interesting to get some statistics on percentages of each generation who used substance abuse as a way to cope.  My guess that with today's infantilized generation, it's greater than it was even with the sixties druggie crowd).

I of course differ with you that we have not evolved to sit in cubicles.  My take on that is that God did not create us to sit in cubicles.  ^-^

@AbaraXas

[sneakypete]

Hmmmm,they are either dropping a different LSD than I was dropping in the 70's,or the word "work" means a different thing today than it used to mean.

[sneakypete]

Meh. Micro dosing has been going on for years.

@Frank Cannon

Yeah,but I never understood it's purpose. If you don't want to get high,don't take drugs. If you DO want to get high,work your way up to what is a max dose for you,and stick to it.

[truth_seeker]

LSD was technically still "legal" when it came into the public eye. Researchers including the CIA were searching for uses.

One of my friends, had an uncle (George H. White) in the center of that effort.  In San Francisco, btw. MK Ultra and related subjects.

https://www.alternet.org/drugs/cloak-dropper-twisted-history-cia-lsd