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Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« on: March 28, 2018, 03:44:54 pm »
 Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018

‘It’s the tax pony, and that’s the only horse they have to ride,’ says one top Democrat.

By BURGESS EVERETT and RACHAEL BADE

03/27/2018 06:08 PM EDT

Republicans are dreaming of passing another round of tax cuts this year — or at least making vulnerable Democrats squirm by voting against them.

GOP leaders are weighing a series of votes to make last year’s temporary tax cuts for individuals permanent, according to Republicans in both chambers. The strategy would portray the party as the guardian of Americans’ paychecks, Republicans say, and buoy the GOP during a brutal election year.

Republicans argue they win regardless of whether it culminates with a Rose Garden ceremony: Either Democrats support the legislation, giving the GOP a major legislative accomplishment in its scramble to save its majorities. Or, more likely, Democrats block the bill — allowing Republicans to paint them as opponents of the middle class.

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 03:50:13 pm »
This is a solid move.  They had to make them temporary the first time around to comply with the reconciliation rules.  Otherwise, they'd have needed 60 votes in the Senate.

But now, they can do a stand-alone bill based solely around making those individual cuts permanent.  It will still need 60 votes, but there will be political prices to pay for many democrats who vote against it.

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2018, 05:43:42 pm »
If the House passes tax cuts with lots of rat votes, then the bill gets stalled in the Senate, the rats can say "I voted for tax cuts," even though nothing passed.

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 05:49:49 pm »
The H with this so-called tax reform, part 2.  How about trashing the whole system and replacing it with a fair or flat tax? 

This taxpayer got zero out of the first set of "cuts."  Making those cuts permanent isn't helping me at all. 

As far as I'm concerned, so-called tax reform is just another broken campaign promise from the Republicans.  I'm not fooled into thinking they didn't lie to the voters on this issue too. 

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 06:48:22 pm »
Because radical tax reform will only happen with a super-majority of conservatives and that's not going to happen.
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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 07:08:30 pm »
If the House passes tax cuts with lots of rat votes, then the bill gets stalled in the Senate, the rats can say "I voted for tax cuts," even though nothing passed.

True -- but the Dems in the Senate won't have that easy an out.

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2018, 07:46:00 pm »
The H with this so-called tax reform, part 2.  How about trashing the whole system and replacing it with a fair or flat tax? 

This taxpayer got zero out of the first set of "cuts."  Making those cuts permanent isn't helping me at all. 

As far as I'm concerned, so-called tax reform is just another broken campaign promise from the Republicans.  I'm not fooled into thinking they didn't lie to the voters on this issue too.



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Let's pray we can take another bite out of that 'Make The Rich Pay Their Fair Share' load of Bollocks this time.

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2018, 08:11:27 pm »
How can allowing people more of their money to remain in their pockets ever be considered 'punishment'?

Only if a government has created a system of dependency can it be so.

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Re: Tax cuts, Round 2: GOP looks to punish Democrats in 2018
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2018, 08:46:45 pm »
The H with this so-called tax reform, part 2.  How about trashing the whole system and replacing it with a fair or flat tax? 

This taxpayer got zero out of the first set of "cuts."  Making those cuts permanent isn't helping me at all. 

As far as I'm concerned, so-called tax reform is just another broken campaign promise from the Republicans.  I'm not fooled into thinking they didn't lie to the voters on this issue too.

Those that get little or no benefit from the recent tax cuts, probably live in higher tax locations, in which case other lower tax states have been providing a subsidy, to the higher tax states.

The logical solution for higher tax states, is toreduce their state taxes.

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