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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #676 on: April 06, 2018, 10:40:25 pm »
The boy is a loose cannon.  A geezer with an attitude.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #677 on: April 06, 2018, 10:42:44 pm »
Did Wingnut just call you a geezer?

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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #678 on: April 06, 2018, 11:03:52 pm »
A badge I proudly wear with honor, @Sanguine!



Nice.  But, I think Wings was talking about mental ages.  He's still at whippersnapper age.   :silly:
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #680 on: April 06, 2018, 11:52:08 pm »
@Jazzhead  I really hope you're doing ok with your rehab.  As you know, I agree with you and think you will eventually be proven right.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #681 on: April 07, 2018, 12:14:10 am »
@Jazzhead  I really hope you're doing ok with your rehab.  As you know, I agree with you and think you will eventually be proven right.

Why?  What part of shall not be infringed is confusing to the both of you?
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #682 on: April 07, 2018, 12:34:34 am »
Why?  What part of shall not be infringed is confusing to the both of you?
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That endorsement is just more evidence that our statist buddy is just another card carrying lib
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #683 on: April 07, 2018, 12:36:13 am »
@Jazzhead  I really hope you're doing ok with your rehab.  As you know, I agree with you and think you will eventually be proven right.

@LauraTXNM Perhaps you can tell us what "good" would supposedly come of registration.

And tell us why that magical Right to Privacy suddenly disappears with forearms.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #684 on: April 07, 2018, 12:39:24 am »
@LauraTXNM Perhaps you can tell us what "good" would supposedly come of registration.

And tell us why that magical Right to Privacy suddenly disappears with forearms.

Ummm....The right to bear a nice wristwatch?
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #685 on: April 07, 2018, 12:45:48 am »
And tell us why that magical Right to Privacy suddenly disappears with forearms.


Sometimes, they're impossible to hide, so no privacy.


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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #686 on: April 07, 2018, 12:52:23 am »
Ummm....The right to bear a nice wristwatch?

Maybe the right to bare a nice wristwatch?

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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #687 on: April 07, 2018, 05:02:18 am »
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That endorsement is just more evidence that our statist buddy is just another card carrying lib

@Axeslinger  Nah, I'm the only Commie heathen here.  I've talked to @Jazzhead enough to recognize him as a true-blue old-school Republican/libertarian like my mother was.  In fact, I think they might be the "true" Rs like Reagan, compared to the conservatives he brought into the tent.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #688 on: April 07, 2018, 05:07:19 am »
@LauraTXNM Perhaps you can tell us what "good" would supposedly come of registration.

And tell us why that magical Right to Privacy suddenly disappears with forearms.

@Suppressed  I'd make a quip about bangles and bracelets, but many have beaten me to it ;).  Good job, @Cyber Liberty, @edpc, and @Suppressed

As for registration, as far as I'm concerned registration already exists at the level of the gun stores.  And I don't care.  Anyway, I'm done wrestling with that pig.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #689 on: April 07, 2018, 11:49:16 am »
@Suppressed  I'd make a quip about bangles and bracelets, but many have beaten me to it ;).  Good job, @Cyber Liberty, @edpc, and @Suppressed

As for registration, as far as I'm concerned registration already exists at the level of the gun stores.  And I don't care.  Anyway, I'm done wrestling with that pig.
Sorry, but there is a difference between filling out a Form 4473 and being required under penalty of law every firearm you own. Many have firearms which antedate the Gun Control Act of 1968, which have had no paperwork filled out on them, ever. Some were even bought by putting a check and an order form in the mail (that's how it was back when), and some were either handed down, gifts, or purchased privately. All lawfully acquired, lawfully owned, but NOT registered nor documented. While some of the more statist jurisdictions require that, and even permits to purchase a firearm, even today (thankfullly) there are some places in this country you can walk into a shop and walk out (Now, after filling out the Form 4473 and the NICS check) with the firearm. No paperwork nor documentation is required for private sales or gift transfers of ownership in those jurisdictions.

My point is that there are many firearms out there which have never been documented as they changed hands, and haven't been documented since they were shipped from the manufacturer to the store/dealer in the days when that was where the trail ended. It is no wonder that those command a premium over those which have, all else being equal.

 
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #690 on: April 07, 2018, 01:35:59 pm »
@Jazzhead  I really hope you're doing ok with your rehab.  As you know, I agree with you and think you will eventually be proven right.
He is right like saying the Second Amendment is a 'flawed document'?

Am curious on what other portions of our Constitution you believe is also flawed.

Can you let us know, or is the entire document what you call 'that pig'??
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #691 on: April 07, 2018, 01:38:49 pm »
@Jazzhead  I really hope you're doing ok with your rehab.  As you know, I agree with you and think you will eventually be proven right.

Hi @LauraTXNM:seeya:

 My leg's still in a brace and I can't drive,  but thanks to Philly's excellent public transportation system and invaluable support from Mrs. Jazz,  I've been back at work for two weeks now!

I'm still not cleared for full-blown rehab,  but I can now raise and lower the leg from a lying position,  something that was impossible just a few days ago.   And I can bend the knee about 35%. 

Bottom line - so far so good.   And thanks for the support! 

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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #692 on: April 07, 2018, 02:23:42 pm »

Sometimes, they're impossible to hide, so no privacy.




Exercising the right to bare arms!
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #693 on: April 07, 2018, 02:28:01 pm »
Exercising the right to bare arms!
They ain't bare, they have anchors tattooed on 'em!  22222frying pan
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #694 on: April 07, 2018, 02:32:49 pm »
@Jazzhead  I really hope you're doing ok with your rehab.  As you know, I agree with you and think you will eventually be proven right.

As an admitted Democrat.... and official Jazzhead approver....

you might want to prepare yourself for supreme disappointment.   :silly:
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #695 on: April 07, 2018, 03:30:49 pm »
Please by all means show us the long lists of places where registration hasn't lead to confiscation.

That right there is 100% pure blind and willful ignorance to the long list of countries you've been shown...not to mention a couple of states in the U.S. repeatedly...where registration has led to confiscation.

You guys are still beating this poor dead (or un-dead) cow with the resident leftie? 

I'm amazed.   How is it that we don't get bored with him and do the obvious.... ignore?  Is it possible (nah)...

that we actually enjoy his presence here?    :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #696 on: April 07, 2018, 03:35:25 pm »
You guys are still beating this poor dead (or un-dead) cow with the resident leftie? 

I'm amazed.   How is it that we don't get bored with him and do the obvious.... ignore?  Is it possible (nah)...

that we actually enjoy his presence here?    :silly: :silly: :silly:

We have to make sure there is nothing left of the horse but a greasy spot on the ground.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #697 on: April 07, 2018, 03:54:16 pm »
You guys are still beating this poor dead (or un-dead) cow with the resident leftie? 

If you have been following the news late, the drumbeat to eradicate our right to keep and bear weaponry is growing louder and more pronounced with actual actions being undertaken to strip the citizens of their guns, or face penalty and ruination.

I'd say combating the stupid shit our commie-lib-leftie is spouting is simply sparring practice for what we have to engage in out in the meat world.
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #698 on: April 07, 2018, 04:43:56 pm »
He is right like saying the Second Amendment is a 'flawed document'?

Am curious on what other portions of our Constitution you believe is also flawed.

Can you let us know, or is the entire document what you call 'that pig'??

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It seems pretty obvious to me, that the 2nd Amendment suffers from phrasing and/or punctuation which are less than optimal.  Its structure has left it open to interpretation and will continue to do so.  I haven't done all the research @Jazzhead has, but Justice Scalia did apparently stipulate that Heller was important to codify the right to weapons for self-defense.

I have loved stories about our Founding Fathers since watching Charlie Brown and "1776" when I was a little girl.  Thomas Jefferson has always been my favorite; my son has always preferred George Washington.  They were very human men touched with brilliance or even genius.  But they weren't God, they certainly perfect, and neither were their creations. 
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Re: Former Supreme Court justice: ‘Repeal the Second Amendment’
« Reply #699 on: April 07, 2018, 04:53:16 pm »
@IsailedawayfromFR 
It seems pretty obvious to me, that the 2nd Amendment suffers from phrasing and/or punctuation which are less than optimal.  Its structure has left it open to interpretation and will continue to do so.  I haven't done all the research @Jazzhead has, but Justice Scalia did apparently stipulate that Heller was important to codify the right to weapons for self-defense...

I refer you to my answer here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,311140.msg1652059.html#msg1652059

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...I have loved stories about our Founding Fathers since watching Charlie Brown and "1776" when I was a little girl.  Thomas Jefferson has always been my favorite; my son has always preferred George Washington.  They were very human men touched with brilliance or even genius.  But they weren't God, they certainly perfect, and neither were their creations. 

I know it sounds silly to some, but some of us believe that the creation of this nation was divinely inspired.  So, of course they were men and not God, but that is as meaningful as saying that they had arms and feet.  Of course they did, but what does that have to do with this topic?