Once Again, I Ask: Why Vote Republican?

[EdJames]

Then we're going to have 30 different political parties.

Well, that's the way it is (almost) already when you get down to it.  In a sense there is no "Republican" Party in that there is not much of a cohesive grouping of center-right to right-right folks that are willing to band together as "one" every 2 years for various congressional elections, or every 4 years for a presidential election.

A patchwork coalition of sorts was somehow put together to get Trump elected in 2016.  One has to question if that will ever happen again under the auspices of the Republican Party.  It seems that the natural base of what would constitute the "Republican Party" in this century is rapidly splintering into 5 to 7+ groupings that often have some overlap amongst a few of the other groups, but more differences between each group in the aggregate.

Contrast that with the Democrat Party that seems to have no real issues in pulling together their 5 to 7+ splinter groups on election day.  What magic glue do they use?

Will it be possible for a form of that magic glue to appear on the shelves in November of 2018 and 2020 to support GOP retention of either/both chambers, and another Oval Office tour?

[roamer_1]

Contrast that with the Democrat Party that seems to have no real issues in pulling together their 5 to 7+ splinter groups on election day.  What magic glue do they use?

RESULTS.

[dfwgator]

RESULTS.

Liberals are about the "Collective".  Conservatives tend to be more Individualists,  who generally have a suspicion of any groups.  They tend to be go it aloners.   That's our curse, and the nature of the beast.

[EdJames]

RESULTS.

Most likely a large portion of it, but I am not sure if it is the complete formula.

[EdJames]

Liberals are about the "Collective".  Conservatives tend to be more Individualists,  who generally have a suspicion of any groups.  They tend to be go it aloners.   That's our curse, and the nature of the beast.

Definitely another part of it.

[Bigun]

It's easy to sell free stuff and that is what the democrats have been selling for ages. We have gone from a nation full of independent people determined to succed or fail on their own merits to a nation full of subscribers to "If it feels good do it and let someone else pay for the consequences".   I am convinced there will be no recovery from that unless God interveens.

[aligncare]

Vote with your head, not your heart. Vote for the possible – the impossible takes too long.

[Jazzhead]

Vote with your head, not your heart. Vote for the possible – the impossible takes too long.

 

Preach it, brother AC.

[Sanguine]

Preach it, brother AC.

So, I guess we don't have to help NY/NJ pay for their tunnel then.  Just doesn't make sense for those of us who won't benefit.

[Jazzhead]

So, I guess we don't have to help NY/NJ pay for their tunnel then.  Just doesn't make sense for those of us who won't benefit.

Putting the matter devoid of sentiment, it is entirely rational to act to maintain the prosperity of an entire nation, rather than adhering strictly to selfish factionalism.   The economic engine that is Manhattan and the NYC area is part of the greatest and oldest free trade zone in human history.  We all benefit from the liberty secured by this historic voluntary confederation.   We are all in this together, as Americans. 

     

[Right_in_Virginia]

The acronym "RINO" would be comical if it were not evidence of the deep and enduring misunderstanding of what the Republican Party is.  The GOP has always been a center-right party, even during the Reagan years.  In fact, the majority of Americans live in the center and only lean one way or the other as dire circumstances dictate.

During the Reagan years the Christian conservative right was invited to join the Republican Party.  The Republican welcome was public and sincere ---- but it did not bestow ownership.  Although conservatives remain a minority in a minority party, they have a voice, and one that matters.   

So why vote Republican when so much wrong can be pointed to?  Because every now and again something right comes from them, and to date it's been enough to save this nation.  While satisfying the conservative is infrequent, the last best hope of this happening at all is still through the Republican Party.

[Jazzhead]

The acronym "RINO" would be comical if it were not evidence of the deep and enduring misunderstanding of what the Republican Party is.  The GOP has always been a center-right party, even during the Reagan years.  In fact, the majority of Americans live in the center and only lean one way or the other as dire circumstances dictate.

During the Reagan years the Christian conservative right was invited to join the Republican Party.  The Republican welcome was public and sincere ---- but it did not bestow ownership.  Although conservatives remain a minority in a minority party, they have a voice, and one that matters.   

So why vote Republican when so much wrong can be pointed to?  Because every now and again something right comes from them, and to date it's been enough to save this nation.  While satisfying the conservative is infrequent, the last best hope of this happening at all is still through the Republican Party.

Yes, it is.  It is the task of conservatives to convince those in the center who are part of the GOP coalition. But it is the obligation of conservatives to remain in solidarity with the coalition,  because it is the only viable vehicle through which conservative political change can be effected.   

[Sanguine]

Putting the matter devoid of sentiment, it is entirely rational to act to maintain the prosperity of an entire nation, rather than adhering strictly to selfish factionalism.   The economic engine that is Manhattan and the NYC area is part of the greatest and oldest free trade zone in human history.  We all benefit from the liberty secured by this historic voluntary confederation.   We are all in this together, as Americans. 

   

Valiant effort, Jazzy, I'll give you that.   

[Concerned]

Regardless of the make-up of Congress, even Republican Administrations are now adding trillions to the national debt.  Frankly, the threat of the fiscal terrors of Democratic Presidents has completely lost it's fear with me:  Republicans in Congress only seem to care about the debt and the deficit when a Democrat is in the White House.  I suspect we would have actually added LESS to the national debt had Hillary won (and that's a REALLY painful realization to potentially face).   

[roamer_1]

Liberals are about the "Collective".  Conservatives tend to be more Individualists,  who generally have a suspicion of any groups.  They tend to be go it aloners.   That's our curse, and the nature of the beast.

Nah. I am in union with most real Conservatives... The TEA Party was the latest iteration of true Conservatism, and it was a clarion call that all Conservatives heard. We work fine together - And we know each other. it is the Republican Party that denies us.

Liberalism/communism/socialism is not winning on its merits - It fails every time.
It is winning because it has no opposition.
That which declares itself the opposition is a total sham.
The Republicans stand for globalism. They stand for New World Order. That is what they DO, regardless of what they say.

If they actually held to the convictions laid down with Reagan and Goldwater, there would be no liberalism.

[roamer_1]

Most likely a large portion of it, but I am not sure if it is the complete formula.

Sure it is.
Democrats work for their most liberal constituents - The wacko-left gets results from their politicians.

Republicans have not done a lasting conservative thing in forty years. They just keep shining their base on.

It is all about results. and that is the truth of 'winning' - something we have not experienced since 94 (and even that is arguable).

[roamer_1]

So why vote Republican when so much wrong can be pointed to?  Because every now and again something right comes from them, and to date it's been enough to save this nation.  While satisfying the conservative is infrequent, the last best hope of this happening at all is still through the Republican Party.

@Right_in_Virginia
LOL! Nope. Not a single damn thing.

[The_Reader_David]

Then we're going to have 30 different political parties.

Splendid idea, maybe not 30, but maybe 11 or 12, so long as the left similarly fragments.  On the right parties standing for strict contructivism, almost anarchist libertarianism, the sort of rose-window conservatism that wants the state to vigorously enforce traditional Christian morality, classical liberalism, on the left a "green" party, a socialist party, a black-separatist party (or would that be a left party, they might support school vouchers, oppose siting abortion clinic in black neighborhoods, at least), a latino separatist party, a party for which sexual politics is the be-all-and-end-all, and heck on the fringes, a communist party reinvigorated by defections from the vanished democrats, and a white nationalist party, and throw in a party of self-identified centrist, and party that fancies technology and everything being run by a technocratic elite can fix everything. 

We'd get more-or-less a parliamentary system with the House electing every President.

[TomSea]

People don't show up to vote, only 43% of those eligible in Hawaii in the last presidential election even voted.  The other states are better but it really reflects how a lot of people just don't care, 71% of those eligible to vote, register, 68% of those registered,  voted in one year.

Good luck with talking about term limits (which is a darn good idea in fact) and anything else on the platter. People need to vote, it's clear the stay-at-homes could turn elections. Why do they not care? I don't know. I know there are some who can't make it to the voting precinct, even with early voting.

I thought one country almost made it compulsory to vote.

[Bigun]

People don't show up to vote, only 43% of those eligible in Hawaii in the last presidential election even voted.  The other states are better but it really reflects how a lot of people just don't care, 71% of those eligible to vote, register, 68% of those registered,  voted in one year.

Good luck with talking about term limits (which is a darn good idea in fact) and anything else on the platter. People need to vote, it's clear the stay-at-homes could turn elections. Why do they not care? I don't know. I know there are some who can't make it to the voting precinct, even with early voting.

I thought one country almost made it compulsory to vote.

Screw that!   I personally wish FEWER people voted!
 
Allowing ignorant people to vote themselves money from the public treasury is what took this country down.

[Sanguine]

Screw that!   I personally wish FEWER people voted!
 
Allowing ignorant people to vote themselves money from the public treasury is what took this country down.

I agree Bigun, I don't understand the fascination with numbers.

[Axeslinger]

Screw that!   I personally wish FEWER people voted!
 
Allowing ignorant people to vote themselves money from the public treasury is what took this country down.

Personally I think we should go back to some semblance of the wisdom of the founders:  voters must be property owners and I would expand it to their spouses too.

[EasyAce]

I thought one country almost made it compulsory to vote.

I can think of one country that did make it compulsory to vote. Perhaps you've heard of it. It was called the Soviet Union.

[EasyAce]

[INVAR]

I'm am not going to imbibe of your toxic brew of tribalism and selfishness.     

No, but you'll use government to force your toxic bullshit down our throats and call us 'selfish' for refusing to accommodate you.

You're an overt enemy to every single thing and idea I hold dear in life.