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Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« on: March 07, 2018, 02:43:36 am »
Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws

By KATIE BENNER and JENNIFER MEDINAMARCH 6, 2018

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration escalated what had been a war of words over California’s immigration agenda, filing a lawsuit late Tuesday that amounted to a pre-emptive strike against the liberal state’s so-called sanctuary laws.

The Justice Department sued California; Gov. Jerry Brown; and the state’s attorney general, Xavier Becerra, over three state laws passed in recent months, saying they make it impossible for federal immigration officials to do their jobs and deport criminals who were born outside of the United States. The Justice Department called the laws unconstitutional and asked a judge to block them.

The lawsuit was the department’s boldest attack yet against California, one of the strongest opponents of the Trump administration’s efforts to curb immigration. It also served as a warning to Democratic lawmakers and elected officials nationwide who have enacted sanctuary policies that provide protections for undocumented immigrants.

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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 03:11:21 am »


Trump should put up border controls ...I.E. road blocks like at mexico... Ports of entry on any sanctuary State or such local.
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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 03:20:36 am »
I'll be interested to see how this case goes.  As far as I can tell, the CA laws don't actually cross any federal laws.
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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 03:20:49 am »

Trump should put up border controls ...I.E. road blocks like at mexico... Ports of entry on any sanctuary State or such local.

Good point/idea. Trump could simply close the borders between Mexico and California stopping all transport between them. California couldn't do squat about it.

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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 03:26:25 am »
Good point/idea. Trump could simply close the borders between Mexico and California stopping all transport between them. California couldn't do squat about it.

Could they prevent flights from Mexican to Californian cities?  What about cruise ships sailing from Puerto Vallarta to CA? 
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 03:30:42 am »
Capital!
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Let's get them back in play.
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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 03:33:42 am »
Yes I believe he could. Though I suspect that he'd have to close all immigration processing at the airport and not be selective about it coming from south of the border. The federal government is in control of all immigration kiosk/offices.

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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 03:40:39 am »
Capital!
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55 Electoral votes.

Let's get them back in play.

I'm guessing since CA continues to be a liberal cesspool long after Pete Wilson and Prop 187, CA will be more liberal after this plays out.

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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 03:42:04 am »
I'm guessing since CA continues to be a liberal cesspool long after Pete Wilson and Prop 187, CA will be more liberal after this plays out.

Yup.
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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 03:21:02 pm »
I hope this continues into the other Sanctuary states like Washington.
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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2018, 04:42:54 pm »
blah, blah, blah!

When we see the lawbreakers that hold office being arrested, then we'll pay attention!
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 04:55:13 pm »
blah, blah, blah!

When we see the lawbreakers that hold office being arrested, then we'll pay attention!
(And I suspect .. the lawbreakers who hold office will too) :shrug:

Yup, more talk blah, blah, blah

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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2018, 05:02:50 pm »
blah, blah, blah!

When we see the lawbreakers that hold office being arrested, then we'll pay attention!
(And I suspect .. the lawbreakers who hold office will too) :shrug:

Sure that's the best solution.

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Re: Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2018, 05:23:46 pm »

Trump should put up border controls ...I.E. road blocks like at mexico... Ports of entry on any sanctuary State or such local.

How about just blockading the whole state?  No entry, no exit.  No commerce coming in or going out.  No more federal monies. 

(Well, let's wait till @DB and family escape to AZ first)

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 05:33:30 pm »
How about just blockading the whole state?  No entry, no exit.  No commerce coming in or going out.  No more federal monies.

Okay, I’d assume then CA would keep all the tax revenues it sends to the feds. 
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2018, 05:47:38 pm »
Okay, I’d assume then CA would keep all the tax revenues it sends to the feds.

Assuming the Feds keep all the money they send to CA, it might be a net gain for the rest of the nation.

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2018, 05:50:08 pm »
Okay, I’d assume then CA would keep all the tax revenues it sends to the feds.

Perhaps, but could it be that California is getting more of our tax dollars than the state is paying in?  I don't know, but if that's so, we could all be saving a ton of money by cutting the state off.

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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2018, 05:53:03 pm »
@Sanguine @Applewood

Actually, CA sends more to DC than it receives.  So that would be a net win for CA. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2018, 06:06:21 pm »
@Sanguine @Applewood

Actually, CA sends more to DC than it receives.  So that would be a net win for CA.

No, ma'am.  Not when you figure in benefits to illegal aliens.

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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2018, 06:06:25 pm »
Democrats just being Democrats. Just like 1861, defying federal law so they can keep their cheap labor.

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2018, 06:39:13 pm »
No, ma'am.  Not when you figure in benefits to illegal aliens.

Interesting idea.   I’m looking for those numbers right now.  I know the medical care program is state-, not federally-, funded. 
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2018, 08:17:45 pm »
Interesting idea.   I’m looking for those numbers right now.  I know the medical care program is state-, not federally-, funded.

Make sure you include the Federal subsidies to the State programs.  That complicates things a little (although the Obamacare subsidies for Medicaid expansion are running out).
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2018, 08:30:17 pm »
Make sure you include the Federal subsidies to the State programs.  That complicates things a little (although the Obamacare subsidies for Medicaid expansion are running out).

And do not forget the cost of education all those millions of little darlings. School lunches are not
cheap. And the cost of jailing them once they grow up.

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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2018, 08:31:17 pm »
@Sanguine @Applewood

Actually, CA sends more to DC than it receives.  So that would be a net win for CA.

Higher cost of living states are forced to pay a higher percentage of their citizen's incomes in federal taxes because of the moronic senators and reps from those states demanding more progressive income taxes. California is a prime example. When Boxer and Feinstein pushed for higher top income tax rates they were taking more from their high cost of living state and spreading it around the US.

Complete idiots.

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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2018, 09:17:21 pm »
@Sanguine @Applewood

Actually, CA sends more to DC than it receives.  So that would be a net win for CA.

Do your figures include Federal Grants to State Entities such as research grants through HHS to the State University system?
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