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http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-online-sales-tax-20180214-story.html#ampshare=http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-online-sales-tax-20180214-story.html

Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
by Russell Blair
February 15, 2018

The state Department of Revenue Services is combing through customer records from major online retailers to hunt down taxpayers who skipped out on the often-ignored use tax.

Kevin Sullivan, commissioner of the tax department, said it’s part of an effort to ramp-up collection of the use tax; Connecticut taxpayers are supposed to pay the state a 6.35 percent tax on any purchases made out-of-state or online where no sales tax is paid, but the vast majority do not.

“Usually we don’t have the data, but in several cases companies have said … we’ll squeal on our customers and you can beat up on them,” Sullivan said. “The people who sold to them have ratted them out.”

A tax expert in Washington, D.C., said Connecticut is the first state to take this approach: requesting data from retailers about online purchases by state residents that were not subject to sales tax and checking to see if the customers made required tax payments.

An estimated $70 million of the use tax is evaded in Connecticut annually and compliance with the tax stands at about 12 percent, according to the department.

“The states at large have been reticent to pursue customers for use tax,” said Stephen P. Kranz, a partner and tax attorney at McDermott Will & Emery, a Washington, D.C. law firm. “It’s much easier from an efficiency perspective to get the retailer to collect the tax. But data makes it possible to pursue customers, and Connecticut is the first state to go down that path in a real way.”

Several taxpayers told The Courant they received letters from the Department of Revenue Services this week detailing information about purchases they made from Newegg, an online retailer of computer components and other electronics headquartered in California.

“Newegg Inc. has provided the Department of Revenue Services records of your online purchases during taxable years 2014, 2015 and 2016,” the letter reads. “According to these records, you made purchases from Newegg in at least one of these years but were not charged Connecticut sales tax. Therefore, you owe state use tax on the items you purchased because you did not pay sales tax to a retailer.”

The letters contain the total amount of purchases made and the tax due, plus interest and penalties. Sullivan said the state is waiving interest and penalties for taxpayers who send a check promptly, acknowledging that many individuals are still unfamiliar with the use tax. An estimated 3,000 state taxpayers have received the letters.

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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2018, 04:13:09 am »
I figured it was only a matter of time.

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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 08:41:09 am »
Newegg Inc.

They used to be excellent.

Then, in 2016, they sold out to the Chinese and have been garbage ever since.

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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 05:18:04 pm »
Why not penalize the retailer for not collecting the tax?

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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 07:35:24 am »
Connecticut should be hunting down state legislators who spent money the state didn't have.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 10:15:23 pm »
Ct is becoming a California clone.

What the Citizens want is the last thing the Govt pays any attention to.

Personally, I'd love to see massive ICE raids of all the major cities in southern Ct.

Clean all of them off the voter and Govt handout roles.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2018, 10:42:46 pm »
A tax expert in Washington, D.C., said Connecticut is the first state to take this approach:

The reason they are is that they are an a debt spiral that will never end. Pension liabilities are the highest in the country next to PA. They are losing companies rapidly from their massive tax hikes. They are losing citizens because counties are raising the hell out of taxes. They are not cutting any spending.

This move by CT is the equivalent of a drunk rummaging sofa seat cushions and checking pay phone coin return slots for their next drink. It is a last act of a desperate state. 

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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2018, 11:55:56 pm »
When shopping online, you can't pay for what you aren't charged. There's simply no way to do that. So they can use the customers as leverage to get at the businesses. It basically amounts to little more than extortion.

Personally I'd be tempted to file some kind of RICO type of suit.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 12:07:27 am »
So..... let me get this straight.  Connecticut is going to go after (hypothetical) some fixed-income granny who scraped up enough money to buy her grandson a nice pc for his Bday or Xmas.... for some taxes she wasn't charged 3-4 years ago?   Leftist-run state.... yeah....

that sounds about typical for them.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 01:01:35 am »
When shopping online, you can't pay for what you aren't charged. There's simply no way to do that. So they can use the customers as leverage to get at the businesses. It basically amounts to little more than extortion.

Personally I'd be tempted to file some kind of RICO type of suit.

We're all aware of hop heads going Doctor shopping.

Look at all the idiot obstruction Trump's gotten from the Courts for exercising his 100% Legal authority to prevent terrorist immigration.

If you expect a RICO action to succeed you're going to have to go Court shopping.

I hope we get 8 years of Trump Judicial appointees seated.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 01:16:44 am »
When shopping online, you can't pay for what you aren't charged. There's simply no way to do that. So they can use the customers as leverage to get at the businesses. It basically amounts to little more than extortion.

Personally I'd be tempted to file some kind of RICO type of suit.

When you prepare your personal state tax return you are required to report any out of state purchases (over the phone, mail or Internet) while you are physically in the state. Virtually no one does it.

It isn't an out of state company's job to enforce or report any other states tax laws other than where they physically are.

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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2018, 01:14:33 pm »
The attempt by CT to collect this tax is a blatant violation of the 1992 Supreme Court decision that prohibited states from collecting sales tax on online purchases.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2018, 01:42:37 pm »
I have never been to Connetticute.  Do they still have a Yankee in King Arthur's Court?
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2018, 01:55:58 pm »
The attempt by CT to collect this tax is a blatant violation of the 1992 Supreme Court decision that prohibited states from collecting sales tax on online purchases.
That's being re-litigated right now.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2018, 06:18:36 pm »
Why not penalize the retailer for not collecting the tax?

That's what the Democrats argue for -- putting the burden onto retailers to keep up with 50 different tax schemes.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2018, 06:19:27 pm »
When shopping online, you can't pay for what you aren't charged. There's simply no way to do that. So they can use the customers as leverage to get at the businesses. It basically amounts to little more than extortion.

Personally I'd be tempted to file some kind of RICO type of suit.

It's the buyer's responsibility to pay the use tax.
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Re: Connecticut Hunting Down Online Shoppers Who Didn't Pay Sales Tax
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2018, 06:27:57 pm »
That's what the Democrats argue for -- putting the burden onto retailers to keep up with 50 different tax schemes.

It is much worse than 50. Each county and some cities have additional sales taxes...