Obnoxious, ignorant teens now demand curbs on guns

[Cyber Liberty]

Punishment.  Massive draconian punishment.

There are enough subtle suggestions out there online from the unhinged anti-gun/Leftists that have said that those who refuse to comply with "sensible registration" schemes are selfish 'terrorists/Nazis/murderers' and a plague/scourge on the 'community' that deserve to be 'removed' for the safety of "our democracy".  Most simply warn that those who refuse to comply will 'face' law enforcement and 'suffer' the consequences of prison or death for not complying.

Their end plan is to make the 2nd Amendment a severely regulated government-granted privilege and make very public examples of 'gun nuts' who refuse to comply with their diktats in the hopes that it will cause a climate of fear and force the rest of those with guns to comply.

At the risk of being called "Pro murder of cops," I'd point out there will be an equal and opposite reaction of severe resistance in the short run, and I'm not talking about marches of people wearing stupid pink hats.  In the long run there will be massive retaliation on a government who would try to enact such laws that come with draconian measures to ensure compliance. 

I can't imagine a more dangerous task for law enforcement than trying to force people to register their weapons.  There is no nice way to ask somebody to get on a cattle car.

[Cyber Liberty]

Adam Lanza killed his mother and then proceeded to make off with the (rest of the) guns. She had a problem with reporting the theft--she was too dead to do so. To imply that she was OK with any of that is simply beyond the pale, even for you.

In fairness to @LauraTXNM, she may have forgotten who Adam Lanza's first murder victim was that day....

[XenaLee]

In fairness to @LauraTXNM, she may have forgotten who Adam Lanza's first murder victim was that day....

I believe he was directing that comment to Jazzhead.

[INVAR]

There is no nice way to ask somebody to get on a cattle car.

Sure there is.  You invoke guilt and declare them to be evil first. 

Then you tell them that for their own good and the good of the 'oppressed' and the children in society, that the government has need to take from you - everything it determines under the false promise it will provide what you need.

Then they will tell you to get in the boxcar for a nice ride to your new government-sponsored safe space.

And like dutiful imbeciles without any understanding of history - a large number of people who think that it is impossible for our own government  to repeat the acts of horror in history - or whom have no knowledge of it - they willingly walk themselves to camps.

Solzhenitsyn illustrated for us how this is done by a people who do not love liberty enough and whom have surrendered their ability to fight back, the very government that rules them.

[Cyber Liberty]

I believe he was directing that comment to Jazzhead.

Ooops!  You are correct!  My sincere apologies, @LauraTXNM!  I should have known better.

[Cyber Liberty]

Sure there is.  You invoke guilt and declare them to be evil first. 

Then you tell them that for their own good and the good of the 'oppressed' and the children in society, that the government has need to take from you - everything it determines under the false promise it will provide what you need.

Then they will tell you to get in the boxcar for a nice ride to your new government-sponsored safe space.

And like dutiful imbeciles without any understanding of history - a large number of people who think that it is impossible for our own government  to repeat the acts of horror in history - or whom have no knowledge of it - they willingly walk themselves to camps.

Solzhenitsyn illustrated for us how this is done by a people who do not love liberty enough and whom have surrendered their ability to fight back, the very government that rules them.

Interesting observation that makes me wonder:  Would George Takei cheerfully walk himself back into an interment camp if he was told to by a leftist dictator?

[DB]

At the risk of being called "Pro murder of cops," I'd point out there will be an equal and opposite reaction of severe resistance in the short run, and I'm not talking about marches of people wearing stupid pink hats.  In the long run there will be massive retaliation on a government who would try to enact such laws that come with draconian measures to ensure compliance. 

I can't imagine a more dangerous task for law enforcement than trying to force people to register their weapons.  There is no nice way to ask somebody to get on a cattle car.

They'll put the stranglehold on ammunition. That is what California is trying to do. It won't matter if you have a weapon if you can't get ammo for it.

[Cyber Liberty]

They'll put the stranglehold on ammunition. That is what California is trying to do. It won't matter if you have a weapon if you can't get ammo for it.

Sure.  Remember the ammo crisis from a few years ago?  I would not be surprised to see a lot of people caching that stuff, and getting reloading equipment.

[DB]

Sure.  Remember the ammo crisis from a few years ago?  I would not be surprised to see a lot of people caching that stuff, and getting reloading equipment.

Reloading equipment won't be enough. You won't be able to get the basic materials. In addition they'll make you a criminal for making your own.

[INVAR]

Interesting observation that makes me wonder:  Would George Takei cheerfully walk himself back into an interment camp if he was told to by a leftist dictator?

Depends on what the dicktater was wearing.

[Elderberry]

Sure.  Remember the ammo crisis from a few years ago?  I would not be surprised to see a lot of people caching that stuff, and getting reloading equipment.

Where have you been? Late to the party again, I see.

[Cyber Liberty]

Reloading equipment won't be enough. You won't be able to get the basic materials. In addition they'll make you a criminal for making your own.

They will try.  They will encounter the same non-compliance problem as with trying to clamp down on gun owners.  So far, courts have held ammo is protected, as guns are, but the grabbers of the world will always try new approaches.  I know it's like hell trying to get ammo in Cali. 

That reminds me, need to check the online places for my new friend.  I caught some flack from some folks because my wife and I walked into the store, plunked down the cash, and walked out with it, having the NICS check take about five minutes.  Called it an "impulse buy" because my state doesn't believe in that stupid waiting period nonsense.  We're pretty cantankerous about that commie "daylight savings time" crap too. 

I have almost zero 5.56, and I have another serious hole in my cache for .45, both LC and ACP.

[roamer_1]

They'll put the stranglehold on ammunition. That is what California is trying to do. It won't matter if you have a weapon if you can't get ammo for it.

Yeah. It will just go underground. Smuggled in just like anything else you are not supposed to have.

[Cyber Liberty]

Where have you been? Late to the party again, I see.

Only in some calibers.  I have plenty of others.   

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah. It will just go underground. Smuggled in just like anything else you are not supposed to have.

Gunpowder and primers will be the weak link in that supply chain.

[roamer_1]

Sure.  Remember the ammo crisis from a few years ago?  I would not be surprised to see a lot of people caching that stuff, and getting reloading equipment.

The tough part is the primers. that's where they can cinch it down. You can make powder and casings, and pour lead, but the primer is hard to do.

[roamer_1]

Gunpowder and primers will be the weak link in that supply chain.

YEP.
GMTA
 

[Elderberry]

Gunpowder and primers will be the weak link in that supply chain.

Start with 5,000 primers of each type you use and always buy powder in at least the 8#jugs. Also plenty of cases, molds and lead.

[LMAO]

We all know there will be substantial non compliance issues if they go too far with any gun laws because we see that here in pockets  and overseas. Hoe far will the government take things to enforce them? I still maintain any laws would end up being paper tigers

[Cyber Liberty]

We all know there will be substantial non compliance issues if they go too far with any gun laws because we see that here in pockets  and overseas. Hoe far will the government take things to enforce them? I still maintain any laws would end up being paper tigers

The Feds will figure out what the Japs knew going into WW2.  There will be rifles behind every blade of grass.

[RoosGirl]

They will try.  They will encounter the same non-compliance problem as with trying to clamp down on gun owners.  So far, courts have held ammo is protected, as guns are, but the grabbers of the world will always try new approaches.  I know it's like hell trying to get ammo in Cali. 

That reminds me, need to check the online places for my new friend.  I caught some flack from some folks because my wife and I walked into the store, plunked down the cash, and walked out with it, having the NICS check take about five minutes.  Called it an "impulse buy" because my state doesn't believe in that stupid waiting period nonsense.  We're pretty cantankerous about that commie "daylight savings time" crap too. 

I have almost zero 5.56, and I have another serious hole in my cache for .45, both LC and ACP.

Add Palmetto State Armory to your window shopping list.  They usually have pretty good prices on ammo.  And stuff in stock more often than Midway.  Midway has been a disappointment the last several years as far as ammo goes, IMO.

[roamer_1]

We all know there will be substantial non compliance issues if they go too far with any gun laws because we see that here in pockets  and overseas. Hoe far will the government take things to enforce them? I still maintain any laws would end up being paper tigers

They won't be overt until they have substantial compliance - The death of a thousand cuts...

Like how so many here are fine with form 4473 and background checks, and uncomfortable with buying off the street - That much is already accepted and the norm - Folks think you SHOULD buy from a dealer. It's already ingrained. What your kids accept will be just a little worse, till they have their national registry (which they have already in all but name).

Far more people now than in my youth are oblivious to hunting - It is becoming passe.  Many more  have never even touched a gun, and are uncomfortable around a LEO because he has one...

It is coming, sure as hell... and to thunderous applause.
They will be slaves.
And I will be an outlaw.

[RoosGirl]

They won't be overt until they have substantial compliance - The death of a thousand cuts...

Like how so many here are fine with form 4473 and background checks, and uncomfortable with buying off the street - That much is already accepted and the norm - Folks think you SHOULD buy from a dealer. It's already ingrained. What your kids accept will be just a little worse, till they have their national registry (which they have already in all but name).

Far more people now than in my youth are oblivious to hunting - It is becoming passe.  Many more  have never even touched a gun, and are uncomfortable around a LEO because he has one...

It is coming, sure as hell... and to thunderous applause.
They will be slaves.
And I will be an outlaw.

Yep.  Guy I know, just a little older than me, says "Politics is all about negotiating.  Give them the bump stocks, nobody needs those, in exchange for keeping the ARs".  Not sure how he doesn't realize that all that leads to is negotiating away everything.

[roamer_1]

Yep.  Guy I know, just a little older than me, says "Politics is all about negotiating.  Give them the bump stocks, nobody needs those, in exchange for keeping the ARs".  Not sure how he doesn't realize that all that leads to is negotiating away everything.

That's right. Liberty ends with a whimper.

[Cyber Liberty]

That's right. Liberty ends with a whimper.

The British thought that in Lexington and Concord.  After all, they just wanted the subjects to hand over their guns.  There wasn't much whimpering then.  It did take a bit of waking up.