McConnell: GOP expects to lose Senate, House seats in midterms

[IsailedawayfromFR]

And they did it to themselves.

We gave them the POTUS, the House, the Senate and other than tax cuts they haven't done a single thing they promised to.

Are you suggesting Neil Gorusch is not a capable replacement for Anton Scalia?

Or that the opening of federal offshore waters to drilling and reducing onerous edicts restricting coal production and usage not something which had been promised?

[Cyber Liberty]

Are you suggesting Neil Gorusch is not a capable replacement for Anton Scalia?

Or that the opening of federal offshore waters to drilling and reducing onerous edicts restricting coal production and usage not something which had been promised?

Those good deeds will be wiped out if the GOP folds on tighter gun controls.  Even the tax cuts.  Pass some sort of a ban on Sport Rifles and you can wave bye-bye to the House AND the Senate.

[bilo]

Are you suggesting Neil Gorusch is not a capable replacement for Anton Scalia?

Or that the opening of federal offshore waters to drilling and reducing onerous edicts restricting coal production and usage not something which had been promised?

What you're hanging your hat on are not permanent legislative accomplishments. We have no idea how judges will perform over the long haul. Scalia is the exception not the rule, most judges drift to the left over time. Opening ANWAR and drilling off the coastlines is great, but it can be reversed. The same applies for coal production. The big issues that will destroy our individual liberty haven't been fixed as the Pubs promised throughout the campaign; Obamacare still exists, the wall isn't being built, immigration is not being reformed.

If all the Pubs have to run on is cutting taxes and "we run the govt better" I don't see any reason to support a bunch of liars and cheats.

If the Pub supporters can only use the fear of the radical leftists being in power to promote supporting the Pubs I'm not interested. I've seen my share of john McCain's.

[bilo]

Those good deeds will be wiped out if the GOP folds on tighter gun controls.  Even the tax cuts.  Pass some sort of a ban on Sport Rifles and you can wave bye-bye to the House AND the Senate.

The corruption of the FBI and DOJ should make all Americans want to support the 2nd Amendment even more.

Gun control is just an emotional appeal for people control.

[Mesaclone]

What you're hanging your hat on are not permanent legislative accomplishments. We have no idea how judges will perform over the long haul. Scalia is the exception not the rule, most judges drift to the left over time. Opening ANWAR and drilling off the coastlines is great, but it can be reversed. The same applies for coal production. The big issues that will destroy our individual liberty haven't been fixed as the Pubs promised throughout the campaign; Obamacare still exists, the wall isn't being built, immigration is not being reformed.

If all the Pubs have to run on is cutting taxes and "we run the govt better" I don't see any reason to support a bunch of liars and cheats.

If the Pub supporters can only use the fear of the radical leftists being in power to promote supporting the Pubs I'm not interested. I've seen my share of john McCain's.

GOP
We've all had our share of McCain's, Flakes, Grahams, Murkowskis and Collins...but its childish to blame the other 40+ GOP Senators and President who ARE fighting for every issue on the conservative agenda. Worse, is the idiotic thought that putting MORE of these 40 and the President out of office and allowing MORE dems and Flakes to win seats...is some sort of smart political strategy. Neither a President nor genuinely conservative Senators can move forward legislation with less than 50 votes...in some cases 60. So, the President has used executive power to achieve what CAN be achieved and the Senate has moved forward what CAN be moved forward...in the cause of conservatism. But, unless you want them to impose dictatorial powers, they are constrained by the structure of our constitutional government.

Please explain how the President, and the 40+ Senators who have supported his very conservative agenda...can impose that agenda legislatively without violating the constitution. If you cannot do so, its imbecilic to blame these folks...or the GOP as an organization...for not doing what is impossible. A 2 seat majority with 7-8 Flakes is the problem...not the President and the other 40+ Senators fighting DAILY for the conservative agenda.

Instead of fire, ready, aim...try ready, aim, fire. Or hell, just use a little bit of common sense and reason.

[Cyber Liberty]

The corruption of the FBI and DOJ should make all Americans want to support the 2nd Amendment even more.

Gun control is just an emotional appeal for people control.

Democrats are nothing if not pure emotional appeal.  And if the Pubbies fail to hold the line on the Second Amendment, GOP voters will be discouraged and stay away from the polls in droves.

[driftdiver]

Those good deeds will be wiped out if the GOP folds on tighter gun controls.  Even the tax cuts.  Pass some sort of a ban on Sport Rifles and you can wave bye-bye to the House AND the Senate.

@Cyber Liberty
If the GOP does that they will lose a lot of votes but they won't be going to the Dems.    It might be what finally brings about a 3rd party.

[Mesaclone]

And to address the other big lie.

The President has not said he doesn't want conservatives...on the contrary, he IS the policy advocate for nearly every conservative cause. What he HAS said is that the petulant and juvenile "take my ball and go home" cry baby types should shut up and do what they are going to do anyway...run home and sit on their hands...or start silly 3rd parties that achieve nothing positive whatsoever. His call is, was and has been for ALL honest conservatives and Republicans to join the fight against the liberal tide that is seeking to drown us all. Seems like an utterly reasonable approach.

[skeeter]

Democrats are nothing if not pure emotional appeal.  And if the Pubbies fail to hold the line on the Second Amendment, GOP voters will be discouraged and stay away from the polls in droves.

Worse are the kinds of emotions the democrats appeal to. Hate, rage, resentment, envy.

Even more reason to hold the line on the 2A.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty
If the GOP does that they will lose a lot of votes but they won't be going to the Dems.    It might be what finally brings about a 3rd party.

And the Dems will be still whipped up with Trump-hate.  The new party will not come soon enough to keep the Dems away from the levers of power, I fear.  They'll have one or two two-year terms to really wreak havoc to the country.  I don't know if the Republic can survive it.

[INVAR]

We've all had our share of McCain's, Flakes, Grahams, Murkowskis and Collins...but its childish to blame the other 40+ GOP Senators and President who ARE fighting for every issue on the conservative agenda.

Please spare us such abject HORSESHIT.  Your failed party IS NOT fighting for every Conservative issue at all.   Exactly the opposite.   

i.e.; Rand Paul was the ONLY SENATOR to oppose the 1.5 TRILLION budget deal outpacing Obama's deficit spending that shut the government down for a few hours before his party circumvented his refusal to vote for it.  Paul was seeking a vote to reversing across-the-board spending increases and was refused by his own leadership.  He said: "I ran for office because I was very critical of President Obama's trillion-dollar deficits. Now we have Republicans hand in hand with Democrats offering us trillion-dollar deficits. I can't in all honesty look the other way."

Your party IS NOT fighting for every issue on the Conservative agenda.  It has capitulated to every issue on the Democrat agenda, including trillions in deficit spending.

Spend!  Spend!  Spend!  You think we are stupid enough to believe that is part of a Conservative agenda?

Worse, is the idiotic thought that putting MORE of these 40 and the President out of office and allowing MORE dems and Flakes to win seats...is some sort of smart political strategy.

It is.  Playing at a casino where the dice are loaded and the house oligarchy for Statism always wins every hand and every play - the smartest thing to do - is not to play at their tables.  Especially when their rules are designed to fleece you and subjugate you to Statism.

Neither a President nor genuinely conservative Senators can move forward legislation with less than 50 votes...in some cases 60.

Just more of: 'We cannot do anything unless we have the House'.  'We cannot do anything unless we have the Senate'.  'We cannot do anything unless we have the Presidency'.

Give them all three and we get party hacks like you telling us: "We cannot do anything unless we have more than 60 votes".  BULLSHIT.   The Democrats always manages to get what they want with less than 60 votes.  This is just pathetic excuse-making, and we are not buying it anymore.

So, the President has used executive power to achieve what CAN be achieved and the Senate has moved forward what CAN be moved forward...in the cause of conservatism. But, unless you want them to impose dictatorial powers, they are constrained by the structure of our constitutional government.

Spare us the feigned adherence to the Constitution you would like us to believe your party respects.  Deficit spending to the tune of trillions is not exactly following Constitutional prescriptions.  Neither are proposed infringements on the 1st and Second Amendments - but that has not stopped your party from supporting or even calling for them.   To try and tell us that everything that can be done to roll back Obama's agenda has been done is bullshit.   Republicans had the power to defund ObamaCare - they refused. Repeatedly.  Instead they fully funded it.  They may have dumped the mandate... temporarily, but are even now discussing the need to bring it back because otherwise all the insurance exchanges will require massive taxpayer bailouts.

The excuses for your party's failure to even attempt to fulfill their campaign promises, are laughable. 

Or hell, just use a little bit of common sense and reason.

We are.  That is why we are leaving your party to rot - and getting Conservatives out of it and into a new one.

[aligncare]

GOP
We've all had our share of McCain's, Flakes, Grahams, Murkowskis and Collins...but its childish to blame the other 40+ GOP Senators and President who ARE fighting for every issue on the conservative agenda. Worse, is the idiotic thought that putting MORE of these 40 and the President out of office and allowing MORE dems and Flakes to win seats...is some sort of smart political strategy. Neither a President nor genuinely conservative Senators can move forward legislation with less than 50 votes...in some cases 60. So, the President has used executive power to achieve what CAN be achieved and the Senate has moved forward what CAN be moved forward...in the cause of conservatism. But, unless you want them to impose dictatorial powers, they are constrained by the structure of our constitutional government.

Please explain how the President, and the 40+ Senators who have supported his very conservative agenda...can impose that agenda legislatively without violating the constitution. If you cannot do so, its imbecilic to blame these folks...or the GOP as an organization...for not doing what is impossible. A 2 seat majority with 7-8 Flakes is the problem...not the President and the other 40+ Senators fighting DAILY for the conservative agenda.

Instead of fire, ready, aim...try ready, aim, fire. Or hell, just use a little bit of common sense and reason.

Like and agree  ... though at times I too find myself feeling drawn into bashing the GOP brand. It’s just easy and fun because they make it so easy sometimes. But, back at the ranch it makes no sense to help democrats with their bitchfest, since the Republican Party is the only vehicle we have in America of pushing back against the Left. Want less tyranny, vote R.

Rock, hard place.

[Emjay]

Well thank you @Emjay for letting me be aware that I have that kind of power over people like you.

You just made MY day.

Although you have no conception of what I am like, I don't have you on ignore because I don't like you or because your posts are stupid.  You are just the most depressing person on earth.

Nothing personal and please don't let it go to your head.

[driftdiver]

And the Dems will be still whipped up with Trump-hate.  The new party will not come soon enough to keep the Dems away from the levers of power, I fear.  They'll have one or two two-year terms to really wreak havoc to the country.  I don't know if the Republic can survive it.

@Cyber Liberty
Look at what our govt agencies have been doing the last 8 years I don't know if our Republic survived the Obama administration.    Perhaps if they fix the problems but I'm skeptical there is even the will let alone the capablity to fix those problems.

[INVAR]

Although you have no conception of what I am like, I don't have you on ignore because I don't like you or because your posts are stupid.  You are just the most depressing person on earth.

Nothing personal and please don't let it go to your head.

Just another perfect example of Isaiah 30:10:

"Don't tell us what is right. Tell us nice things. Tell us lies."

Just say what we want to hear, even if it's false.

[Sanguine]

Honestly I think it's what he wants to happen.

I agree with that.

[INVAR]

Look at what our govt agencies have been doing the last 8 years I don't know if our Republic survived the Obama administration. 

^^^^THIS! 

Playing Normalcy Bias Politics in a post-Constitutional Socialist mobocracy whereby the Alphabets have been perverted into Deep State Political Praetorians, is blissfully ignorant.

[andy58-in-nh]

^^^^THIS! 
Playing Normalcy Bias Politics in a post-Constitutional Socialist mobocracy whereby the Alphabets have been perverted into Deep State Political Praetorians, is blissfully ignorant.

That sounds awfully negative. Reality is, after all, so depressing.

Not only does Reality so often fail to meet our minimal expectations, much less our dreams, but it insists that we pay attention, for Heaven's sake.

And what person who wants a blessed moment of peace in this intensely complex life, wants to do that?

And so civilizations, no matter how philosophically, socially, and educationally advanced they become, all eventually retreat from the glaring light of virtuous civic engagement, to the comforting cul-de-sacs of disengaged distraction.

The State is my shepherd, I shall not want.
He maketh me to recycle in green trash bins, he dissuades me from the bottled waters.
He restoreth my Wi-fi: he leadeth me to hits on Google for their advertisers' sake.
Yea, though I surf through the valley of the shadow of Drudge, I will fear no evil:
My devices art with me; my iPad and my cell phone, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a web page for me in the presence of mine enemies:
Thou anointest my Tweets with emojis; my "Likes" runneth over.
Surely Twitter and Facebook shall Follow me all the days of my life:
And I will dwell in the den of my house forever.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

What you're hanging your hat on are not permanent legislative accomplishments. We have no idea how judges will perform over the long haul. Scalia is the exception not the rule, most judges drift to the left over time. Opening ANWAR and drilling off the coastlines is great, but it can be reversed. The same applies for coal production. The big issues that will destroy our individual liberty haven't been fixed as the Pubs promised throughout the campaign; Obamacare still exists, the wall isn't being built, immigration is not being reformed.

If all the Pubs have to run on is cutting taxes and "we run the govt better" I don't see any reason to support a bunch of liars and cheats.

If the Pub supporters can only use the fear of the radical leftists being in power to promote supporting the Pubs I'm not interested. I've seen my share of john McCain's.

Nothing in this country is ever permanent and will remain so.  We are a Republic with mechanisms that allows changes to occur over time.

Only liberals believe that once enacted, things like abortion, secession and the like can 'Never be Changed'.

What type of permanent solutions are you driving at?

Even Constitutional Amendments can be changed.

[Concerned]

Please spare us such abject HORSESHIT.  Your failed party IS NOT fighting for every Conservative issue at all.   Exactly the opposite.   

i.e.; Rand Paul was the ONLY SENATOR to oppose the 1.5 TRILLION budget deal outpacing Obama's deficit spending that shut the government down for a few hours before his party circumvented his refusal to vote for it.  Paul was seeking a vote to reversing across-the-board spending increases and was refused by his own leadership.  He said: "I ran for office because I was very critical of President Obama's trillion-dollar deficits. Now we have Republicans hand in hand with Democrats offering us trillion-dollar deficits. I can't in all honesty look the other way."

Your party IS NOT fighting for every issue on the Conservative agenda.  It has capitulated to every issue on the Democrat agenda, including trillions in deficit spending.

Spend!  Spend!  Spend!  You think we are stupid enough to believe that is part of a Conservative agenda?

<snip>

The excuses for your party's failure to even attempt to fulfill their campaign promises, are laughable. 

We are.  That is why we are leaving your party to rot - and getting Conservatives out of it and into a new one.

@INVAR -- You are not alone in seeing this hypocrisy (but I'm sure it must feel that way).  I so sick and tired of people lecturing about how conservative Trump is as the Federal Government he oversees (and just submitted a budget for) borrows $1T this year and then adds at least $7T to it over the next decade.  There's certainly nothing fiscally conservative about all that, and now this Pied Piper has Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell complicit in this fiscal nonsense.

2016 was the the first time I didn't vote Republican in a Presidential election (I wrote in).  Well, this budget and the associated hypocrisy is the last straw for me.  No more!!  I'm ready to jump in with both feet to support a true conservative party like the Constitution Party.   If that's tipping at windmills, so be it.  I'm sick and tired of being told how conservative this President is while he spends money we don't have just like a Democrat.  Time for me to take my support elsewhere.

[INVAR]

The State is my shepherd, I shall not want.
He maketh me to recycle in green trash bins, he dissuades me from the bottled waters.
He restoreth my Wi-fi: he leadeth me to hits on Google for their advertisers' sake.
Yea, though I surf through the valley of the shadow of Drudge, I will fear no evil:
My devices art with me; my iPad and my cell phone, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a web page for me in the presence of mine enemies:
Thou anointest my Tweets with emojis; my "Likes" runneth over.
Surely Twitter and Facebook shall Follow me all the days of my life:
And I will dwell in the den of my house forever.

Absolutely brilliant!

Hilarious because it illustrates the truth.

[INVAR]

Nothing in this country is ever permanent and will remain so.  We are a Republic with mechanisms that allows changes to occur over time.

Only liberals believe that once enacted, things like abortion, secession and the like can 'Never be Changed'.

What type of permanent solutions are you driving at?

Even Constitutional Amendments can be changed.

Not on a whim, and not because emotionally vocal mobs protest in the streets.

We are about to discover just how post-Constitutional we have become.

[Emjay]

@INVAR -- You are not alone in seeing this hypocrisy (but I'm sure it must feel that way).  I so sick and tired of people lecturing about how conservative Trump is as the Federal Government he oversees (and just submitted a budget for) borrows $1T this year and then adds at least $7T to it over the next decade.  There's certainly nothing fiscally conservative about all that, and now this Pied Piper has Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell complicit in this fiscal nonsense.

2016 was the the first time I didn't vote Republican in a Presidential election (I wrote in).  Well, this budget and the associated hypocrisy is the last straw for me.  No more!!  I'm ready to jump in with both feet to support a true conservative party like the Constitution Party.   If that's tipping at windmills, so be it.  I'm sick and tired of being told how conservative this President is while he spends money we don't have just like a Democrat.  Time for me to take my support elsewhere.

I'm glad Invar has a friend in the Doom and Gloom world.

Things are not that bad and they're getting better.  Trump IS doing some good, at least on the economic front.  I watched Rush on Chris Wall-ass (as they call him on TOS) and he cheered me up.  He thinks Trump has made enormous strides.

For example, Chris brought up the 'not getting rid of Obamacare' thing and Rush pointed out that the very worst part of it is gone.

I think it is tilting at windmills to vote for Mickey Mouse because we have too many selfish, cowardly people in the Senate.  You will only enable Dems to take over.  How about working hard to get real conservatives elected?

[INVAR]

@INVAR -- You are not alone in seeing this hypocrisy (but I'm sure it must feel that way).  I so sick and tired of people lecturing about how conservative Trump is as the Federal Government he oversees (and just submitted a budget for) borrows $1T this year and then adds at least $7T to it over the next decade.  There's certainly nothing fiscally conservative about all that, and now this Pied Piper has Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell complicit in this fiscal nonsense.

2016 was the the first time I didn't vote Republican in a Presidential election (I wrote in).  Well, this budget and the associated hypocrisy is the last straw for me.  No more!!  I'm ready to jump in with both feet to support a true conservative party like the Constitution Party.   If that's tipping at windmills, so be it.  I'm sick and tired of being told how conservative this President is while he spends money we don't have just like a Democrat.  Time for me to take my support elsewhere.

Are you reading this @Mesaclone?  This is the overwhelming response and reaction we are receiving when discussing the failure of the Republican party and brand in our efforts to get these Conservatives out of your wholly-corrupted and useless party and into a third party that you fear and despise so much.

There is absolutely no reason any Conservative should vote for a Republican when the Republican Party holds them in contempt while passing the Democrat agenda.

And you and your party are about to discover just how disgusted and finished with it many Conservatives are.

Fool us once, shame on us.  Fool us countless times over decades - we are just practicing insanity voting for Republicans expecting Conservative results.

That message now resonates because the fruits of your party being just another arm of Big Government Statism is become self-evident.

[aligncare]

I'm glad Invar has a friend in the Doom and Gloom world.

Things are not that bad and they're getting better.  Trump IS doing some good, at least on the economic front.  I watched Rush on Chris Wall-ass (as they call him on TOS) and he cheered me up.  He thinks Trump has made enormous strides.

For example, Chris brought up the 'not getting rid of Obamacare' thing and Rush pointed out that the very worst part of it is gone.

I think it is tilting at windmills to vote for Mickey Mouse because we have too many selfish, cowardly people in the Senate.  You will only enable Dems to take over.  How about working hard to get real conservatives elected?

Yeah, but...that would be work – and hard, too.

Hm, maybe that’s why it’s called hard work?