Author Topic: Fla. shooting survivor pleads for gun control: â€˜We are children, you guys are the adultsâ€™ (Read 11936 times)

INVAR · « **Reply #300 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:08:14 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on February 16, 2018, 10:45:50 pm

When citizens learn, as they have today, that the "government" was on a witch hunt and frame-up against Trump, and missed numerous warnings over this Florida deadly threat, they have every right to be fully prepared to deal with serious matters on their own. (FBI in both instances)

As in "can't trust the government."

Except our resident Leftist thinks that empowering a self-evident corrupt government with more power to regulate with the goal to eliminate your ability to defend yourself is necessary. Refusal to go along with said proposals are 'selfish'.

RoosGirl · « **Reply #301 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:12:52 pm »

Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 16, 2018, 08:44:08 pm

They make a good varmint rifle, but the ordinary .223/5.56 AR fires too small a bullet for deer in many jurisdictions. They are also good for small game and furbearers, but us old school guys will just use a .22.

I bet they'd do just fine on Key Deer.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #302 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:15:38 pm »

Quote from: RoosGirl on February 16, 2018, 11:12:52 pm

I bet they'd do just fine on Key Deer.

A .22LR can take down a griz... proven fact, though no one wants to repeat that particular experiment...

RoosGirl · « **Reply #303 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:19:27 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on February 16, 2018, 11:15:38 pm

A .22LR can take down a griz... proven fact, though no one wants to repeat that particular experiment...

Bah, yer a yankee. You don't get my joke.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #304 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:36:13 pm »

Quote from: RoosGirl on February 16, 2018, 11:19:27 pm

Bah, yer a yankee. You don't get my joke.

OHREALLY?

If there is a joke, that's true - I don't get it.
But you might care to check your geography before layin down such a sulfurous slur.

TomSea · « **Reply #305 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:41:19 pm »

Quote from: RoosGirl on February 16, 2018, 11:19:27 pm

Bah, yer a yankee. You don't get my joke.

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Maybe then, you are a slave-owner to always rely on that.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #306 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:44:35 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on February 16, 2018, 11:41:19 pm

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Maybe then, you are a slave-owner to always rely on that.

@RoosGirl

See that ^^^???

THAT's a Yankee.

INVAR · « **Reply #307 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:49:44 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on February 16, 2018, 11:41:19 pm

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Maybe then, you are a slave-owner to always rely on that.

Of course she is:

RoosGirl · « **Reply #308 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:35:22 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on February 16, 2018, 11:36:13 pm

OHREALLY?

If there is a joke, that's true - I don't get it.
But you might care to check your geography before layin down such a sulfurous slur.

LOL Anyone north of Tallahassee is a yankee to me. ;P

RoosGirl · « **Reply #309 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:36:00 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on February 16, 2018, 11:36:13 pm

OHREALLY?

If there is a joke, that's true - I don't get it.
But you might care to check your geography before layin down such a sulfurous slur.

Oh yeah, the joke is that Key Deer are endangered.

RoosGirl · « **Reply #310 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:36:49 am »

Quote from: TomSea on February 16, 2018, 11:41:19 pm

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Maybe then, you are a slave-owner to always rely on that.

I have no clue what that's even supposed to mean, but thanks for proving once again you have absolutely no sense of humor. Good job.

RoosGirl · « **Reply #311 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:37:50 am »

Quote from: INVAR on February 16, 2018, 11:49:44 pm

Of course she is:

LOL @Frank Cannon 's avatar is my hero.

driftdiver · « **Reply #312 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:58:52 am »

Quote from: RoosGirl on February 17, 2018, 12:35:22 am

LOL Anyone north of Tallahassee is a yankee to me. ;P

@RoosGirl

Careful there Yankee. I'm further south than you

RoosGirl · « **Reply #313 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:03:18 am »

Quote from: driftdiver on February 17, 2018, 12:58:52 am

@RoosGirl

Careful there Yankee. I'm further south than you

Yeah, now, but I grew up in So Fla.

thackney · « **Reply #314 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:52:40 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on February 16, 2018, 02:13:29 pm

Straw man. No one disagrees with that. Your job no doubt also requires that you drive a car. But why shouldn't you be required to register and insure your gun just as you do your car?

Because I don't use my gun on a publicly funded roadway.

I am not required to register and insure my vehicle on my property. Even if my property is a 1,000 acre shipping terminal or an incorporated ranch.

thackney · « **Reply #315 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:17:37 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on February 16, 2018, 02:28:19 pm

"18 school shootings since Jan. 1st...by the same generation that eats laundry detergent...and you wanna say we have a gun problem." (Randy Shook)

Fake news

Florida massacre: No, there have not been 18 school shootings in 2018. Here's why that's all wrong
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/16/florida-massacre-no-there-have-not-been-18-school-shootings-in-2018-heres-why-thats-all-wrong.html

thackney · « **Reply #316 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:22:36 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on February 16, 2018, 03:37:06 pm

We are not in a state of rebellion against tyranny. We have a Constitution, idiot.

And to prevent tyranny, the founders recognize the right to keep and bare arms should not be infringed and made it part of the Constitution, name calling withheld.

thackney · « **Reply #317 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:24:14 pm »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on February 16, 2018, 03:42:08 pm

The First Amendment guarantees our right to speech and assembly. But municipalities can require notifications/licenses to hold a protest on public property, etc.

Yes, but they cannot require notifications, permits or insurance to gather on private property.

thackney · « **Reply #318 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:32:42 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on February 16, 2018, 04:12:15 pm

You could say the same thing about the Second Amendment, you know. Remember the predicate clause about the "well-regulated militia".

And at the time it was written, the Militia was every able-bodies man. Not limited to those already in active service, but all who could step up in a time of need.

thackney · « **Reply #319 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:38:02 pm »

Quote from: Neverdul on February 16, 2018, 08:02:06 pm

So as an eight year old child, did you ever walk into a gun store accompanied by a parent and allowed to break open your piggy bank and allowed to purchase an AR15 and ammo?

I bought guns and ammo far more powerful than those of an AR15 as a child. Some states won't allow hunting with a typical AR15 due to the ammo being to weak to make a reliable kill and lending to wounded animals being left after they run off.

The demonization of an AR15 due to the cosmetics is just silly. Most deer rifles are far more powerful.

jpsb · « **Reply #320 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:51:36 pm »

Maybe it is time to bring back insane asylums and lock crazy people up again.

Bigun · « **Reply #321 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:54:26 pm »

Quote from: jpsb on February 17, 2018, 01:51:36 pm

Maybe it is time to bring back insane asylums and lock crazy people up again.

Maybe it's time for people to do their damned jobs and stop making schools free fire zones for anyone!

jpsb · « **Reply #322 on:** February 17, 2018, 02:05:00 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on February 17, 2018, 12:58:52 am

@RoosGirl

Careful there Yankee. I'm further south than you

Me too.

thackney · « **Reply #323 on:** February 17, 2018, 03:39:20 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on February 16, 2018, 09:11:24 pm

We're not talking "despotism" here, for Chrissake.

There is a crisis of gun violence in this nation, and the citizens quite legitimately want to see something done about. What's par for the course in a Constitutional republic isn't "despotism". Stop being so damn self-centered and selfish.

It might be viewed differently if what you proposed would likely fix the problem, but it won't. People already willing to break the law (murder, gun on school grounds, etc) are not going to be stopped by laws that only impact the law abiding.

thackney · « **Reply #324 on:** February 17, 2018, 03:42:39 pm »

Quote from: txradioguy on February 16, 2018, 09:27:48 pm

There are several states where I can forsee law enforcement and even the Governor refusing to enforce such silly laws.

Kentucky where I'm at now and Texas being two of them.

@txradioguy

Without trying to further hijack the thread, this is an example of why I am against nation reciprocity on conceal carry laws.

A federal government that is forcing New York to accept Texas permits is the same feds that will require Texas to license and insure all guns because California decided to do so.