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It does seem that way, now that you mention it. And so I give you the dean of “conservative” talk radio, responding to a caller this afternoon who’s concerned that the new GOP budget will add $500 billion in spending......

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/08/rush-gop-budget-just-dont-worry-much-national-debt-anymore/



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Apparently Rush doesn't understand the concept of debt service.

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I was so disappointed when Rush said this..on the other hand Hannity was up in arms over the budget deal...
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He has no kids and is old enough to collect Social Security. Of course he's not worried. When the day of reckoning comes, he'll be long gone.
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Pres. Trump reluctantly signed the bill, in order to rebuild our depleted military. rebuild our depleted military, rebuild our depleted military

Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.

Wrap your #nevertrump minds around that one.

CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill. CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill.
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"If you were against President Obama's deficits, and now you're for the Republican deficits, isn't that the very definition of hypocrisy?" 

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Who is surprised at this?

He sold his soul for Trump (or revealed his true soul).
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Who is surprised at this?

He sold his soul for Trump (or revealed his true soul).
Not I, said the fly.

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Pres. Trump reluctantly signed the bill, in order to rebuild our depleted military. rebuild our depleted military, rebuild our depleted military

Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.

Wrap your #nevertrump minds around that one.

CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill. CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill.

Ted Cruz is wrong and so is Rush

https://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ross/2018/02/10/limbaugh-head-gop-party-of-hypocrites/

    I probably should not admit this, because it changes for me day to day. But I have to tell you, this whole budget thing, I think I’m immune to it now. I realized I’ve been caught up in this budget business for as long as I’ve been hosting this program, and I realized a couple things.

    I know I’m sounding kind of cynical here, but it’s not cynicism. It’s a realization that all the arguments, the budget fight every year is the best weapon the Democrats have to portray Republicans as racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, of no compassion, who hate and want to starve kids. It never changes. Meanwhile, we’re told that the national debt’s gonna wipe us out, that the deficit’s gonna wipe us out. We’ve gotta get a handle on the deficit. It’s growing because the national debt is growing.

And the kicker…

    …I know theoretically all this is bad, but in the real world all of the apocalyptic warnings I grew up hearing have yet to happen. The national debt has not choked us. The national debt is not destroyed us. We may be living in the middle of the destruction and don’t see it yet, but for some reason I didn’t get caught up in it.

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He has no kids and is old enough to collect Social Security. Of course he's not worried. When the day of reckoning comes, he'll be long gone.
Also having half a billion simoleons tends to alleviate a lot of anxiety concerning many things.

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Ted Cruz is wrong and so is Rush

https://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ross/2018/02/10/limbaugh-head-gop-party-of-hypocrites/

    I probably should not admit this, because it changes for me day to day. But I have to tell you, this whole budget thing, I think I’m immune to it now. I realized I’ve been caught up in this budget business for as long as I’ve been hosting this program, and I realized a couple things.

    I know I’m sounding kind of cynical here, but it’s not cynicism. It’s a realization that all the arguments, the budget fight every year is the best weapon the Democrats have to portray Republicans as racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, of no compassion, who hate and want to starve kids. It never changes. Meanwhile, we’re told that the national debt’s gonna wipe us out, that the deficit’s gonna wipe us out. We’ve gotta get a handle on the deficit. It’s growing because the national debt is growing.

And the kicker…

    …I know theoretically all this is bad, but in the real world all of the apocalyptic warnings I grew up hearing have yet to happen. The national debt has not choked us. The national debt is not destroyed us. We may be living in the middle of the destruction and don’t see it yet, but for some reason I didn’t get caught up in it.

Math always wins. The only mystery is how long government can print their way out of crises before people run for the exits losing faith in the dollar. Once the collapse starts it can't be stopped because the hole it too deep.

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Pres. Trump reluctantly signed the bill, in order to rebuild our depleted military. rebuild our depleted military, rebuild our depleted military

Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.

Wrap your #nevertrump minds around that one.

CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill. CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill.

    As much as it pains me to say this @truth_seeker, and I pronounced it last night when I posted Ted's official Press release, it's disappointing.  But I still hold the opinion that Trump wouldn't make a pimple on Cruz's azz as far as Conservative goes, but that's just me.
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Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

No one in Congress -- Republican, democrat-communist, socialist, independent or anyone else -- is going to do anything that deals with the national debt and the deficit until there is no alternative other than to fix those things.

That time hasn't arrived yet, and may not arrive for decades, perhaps longer.

It won't happen until the entire economy (and perhaps society as well) has broken down into pieces and the country has literally become nonfunctional.

I'm not even sure if it will be fixed by then.
Nevertheless -- nothing will be done UNTIL that time is nigh...

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The only mystery is how long government can print their way out of crises before people run for the exits losing faith in the dollar.

Run for exits and go were? People  can lose all kinds of faith in the dollar but they don’t have really any replacement
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Run for exits and go were? People  can lose all kinds of faith in the dollar but they don’t have really any replacement

Really? People don't think it can happen to them - until it does.

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Really? People don't think it can happen to them - until it does.

What other currency will people have faith in if it isn’t the dollar?
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What other currency will people have faith in if it isn’t the dollar?

Some folks have suggested bringing back the gold standard:

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Donald Trump: “We used to have a very, very solid country because it was based on a gold standard,” he told WMUR television in New Hampshire in March last year. But he said it would be tough to bring it back because “we don’t have the gold. Other places have the gold.”

Trump’s comment to GQ: "Bringing back the gold standard would be very hard to do, but boy, would it be wonderful. We’d have a standard on which to base our money."

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We have the gold. Bringing back the gold standard would not be very hard to do.

That is the beauty of Trump, there's a quote or a tweet for every occasion. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2017/02/25/president-trump-replace-the-dollar-with-gold-as-the-global-currency-to-make-america-great-again/#13508a244d54
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Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

No one in Congress -- Republican, democrat-communist, socialist, independent or anyone else -- is going to do anything that deals with the national debt and the deficit until there is no alternative other than to fix those things.

By a credo like that, numerous insidious diseases would never have been cured, to name one example. (Today's government would say, to anyone who tries to cure one without the blessing, sanction, and often the financial approval of the State, You wouldn't dare!.) Because, you see, there were too many proclaiming there wasn't yet no alternative . . . and a few men and women of guts who replied, in effect, Who died and left orders for us not to even try?

Whatever happened to the can-do spirit of this nation, which also knew how to tell the government no-can-do regarding the things it should keep its cotton-pickin' hands off in the first place? (Like about 95-98 percent of the things it has its cotton-pickin' hands on in the first place?) Or did we manage to educate our children and grandchildren out of it, after all, in our lovely State-propagandising schools?

If reality was too much what it was in 1907, an asthmatic janitor in Zollinger Department Store in Canton might have ignored the impulse when he thought to take a sewing machine motor, mount it to a carpet sweeper, attach a fan to the back of the sweeper, attach a pillow case or some such thing there, sweep away the dust successfully enough to relieve his asthma, and convince his cousin Susan---after refining the contraption and applying for and receiving a patent for his "Electric Suction Sweeper"---to take it on after he couldn't mass produce it. Cousin Susan had a husband who could, who then ran a leather-goods business but was well enough to do to make mass producing Spangler's contraption possible. William could, and did, beginning in 1908. And the Spangler contraption became the first portable such mass produced-for-the-home "suction sweeper."

You may remember William's surname---Hoover.


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Rush on the GOP budget: I just don’t worry much about the national debt anymore

He doesn't worry about the Conservative principles he paid lip service to for 20-some odd years anymore either.  He's all about Trump and nothing but Trump.

Rush has become the Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker of Conservative talk radio.

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   Another Angle:

Rush Limbaugh Is the Perfect Titular Head of the GOP, a Party of Hypocrites

Posted at 4:32 pm on February 10, 2018 by Kimberly Ross


As a (former) Rush baby, it absolutely pains me to write this about a man I once admired. But when hypocrisy rears its ugly head, one should point it out.

It’s not as if Limbaugh veered off course recently. He’s been careening in this direction for quite a while. In the Era of Trump, many pundits and personalities have forsaken principle because the GOP is the party in power.

And power means everything to them.

Once upon a time, Rush Limbaugh rightly lambasted President Obama for how the deficit was ballooning under his watch.
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…that’s no excuse for what Obama is doing. If anything, that ought to cause some belt tightening. Obama ought to be looking at it and saying, ‘Okay, I’m inheriting a trillion-dollar deficit. We don’t have any money to spend.’ He’s doing just the opposite. ‘We need to spend even more!’ This is not good.

Those days are over. There’s a Republican in the White House and now, apparently, anything goes.

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https://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ross/2018/02/10/limbaugh-head-gop-party-of-hypocrites/
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There is no conservative party in DC. The Republicans don't even care to fake it anymore...

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Pres. Trump reluctantly signed the bill, in order to rebuild our depleted military. rebuild our depleted military, rebuild our depleted military

Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.  Sen. Ted Cruz, voted for the bill.

Wrap your #nevertrump minds around that one.

CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill. CA Sens. Feinstein and Harris voted against the bill.
Our military spends almost a full order of magnitude more than the next-nearest competitor, Red China, with a fraction of the population.

Our military is not "depleted." It is still grossly bloated.
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Apparently Rush doesn't understand the concept of debt service.

Oh, give Rush a break.  He's a lot more honest than most on this board -  no one cares about the federal deficit anymore.   Raise the gas tax to pay to fix the roads?  Raise FICA to make Social Security solvent?    Hell no, that quaint notion of fiscal rectitude doesn't play with conservatives.  Toss the IOUs to our grandkids,  hell, we've already created the conditions for our kids to be worse off than we are.     
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He's a lot more honest than most on this board -  no one cares about the federal deficit anymore.

No, Liberals and Leftists never care about spending trillions while being in debt.

However, the laws of economics will be visited upon the federal deficit at some point in the very near future - and when that day comes, no one escapes the brutal reality of becoming Venezuela and Weimar Germany on steroids.


Raise the gas tax to pay to fix the roads?

Where is the 800 billion that was raised and spent to *supposedly* fix all that back in 2009?   Where's the billions raised in state and local taxes/tolls that is supposed to go towards road upkeep?  Government takes billions and then trillions to supposedly *fix* all these major problems - and when not a damn thing is done, you Leftists come out of the woodwork to attempt to shame taxpayers into supporting 1.5 TRILLION more to fix the same problem that was never even touched.

No better way to kill the economy than raise gas taxes 25¢ a gallon, as state and locals will follow suit and then anything transported using fuel gets a nice fuel surcharge attached to food, goods and services.  But then pretend Conservatives like you don't care about any of that fallout.  You'll tell us it's time to eat our peas.

Toss the IOUs to our grandkids,  hell, we've already created the conditions for our kids to be worse off than we are.   

That's exactly what deficit spending and taxing us to oblivion achieves.  Government is a bane to liberty, property and wealth - and people like you just feed it everyone else's money.
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