First Excerpts of Nunes Memo Released

[Bigun]

@Bigun

I've heard numerous very qualified legal experts agree with what you just stated.

@driftdiver

Thanks!  That's good to know.

[skeeter]

The FACTS should all come out in courts of law counselor!  There is more than sufficent evidence for a grand jury to charge IMHO.

At the very least, the same standards of justice, the same grave ethical concerns, that were happily & loudly applied by the Democrats to Republican administrations in the past; in Watergate, Iran Contra, the Plame affair; should be used here.

The great thing about Watergate is, is that the system worked. The American system worked. The press did its job. We did what we were supposed to do.– Carl Bernstein

Watergate showed more strengths in our system than weaknesses… The whole country did take part in quite a genuine sense in passing judgment on Richard Nixon.- Archibald Cox

[INVAR]

So, according to the learned among us, this is not treasonous per legal prescript. But, it is not a “nothing-burger” either. So, what is it?

A small footnote in the Wikipedia entry of Donald Trump ten years from now.

Watergate will continue to be be insisted as the greatest set of crimes ever perpetrated in the US Government.

[Lando Lincoln]

Good to see you, @Lando Lincoln. I’ll use this post to posit a point.

@aligncare

Thank you

[Smokin Joe]

@Bigun
They lied to the FISA court.

This may well fall under conspiracy to engage in malicious prosecution, along with falsely obtaining warrants--there is a veritable gold mine of possible proseccutions here, not to mention civil cases as well. I wonder if Mr. Rich factored in somewhere.

[driftdiver]

This may well fall under conspiracy to engage in malicious prosecution, along with falsely obtaining warrants--there is a veritable gold mine of possible proseccutions here, not to mention civil cases as well. I wonder if Mr. Rich factored in somewhere.

@Smokin Joe

Not to mention obstruction of justice.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Not to mention obstruction of justice.

We're talking an entire syndicate, here. All the branches of qa major crime 'family' from corrupt LEOs to the enforcers in the field, the masterminds, the lieutenants with their individual rackets, etc. Just about any evil going on in the world today likely connects somewhere. Nothing would gove greater pleasure than to see rope manufacturer stock go up over this.

[INVAR]

"Our form of government is only suitable for a moral people, and wholely unsuitable for
any others kind." Forgotten who said that, anyway, since we have turned our back on
G*d and following His commands, we are no longer a moral people and can expected to be
either ruled by tyrants or conquered and exterminated.

'Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other' - John Adams - October 11, 1798

Which fits the general admonition of the Founders that if we will not be governed by God and the bible, we will be ruled by tyrants.

Even Benjamin Franklin noted: 'Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.'

I feel sorry for anyone that is just now realizes that we live in a corrupt oligarchy

Normalcy Bias and Cognitive Dissonance are epidemic in a society in the midst of rapid decline.  Usually because no one wants to admit where we have arrived, because it will require them to admit the necessity of doing and risking what they are not willing to do and risk in order to arrest and stop a corrupt oligarchy.

So instead, they fall back on the comfortable shell games the corrupt oligarchy has manipulated to it's advantage to give the people an illusion that they have a voice and a semblance of control over their government.

[aligncare]

The FACTS should all come out in courts of law counselor!  There is more than sufficent evidence for a grand jury to charge IMHO.

Joseph DiGenova Agrees with you. This needs to be presented to a federal grand jury, immediately!

[DCPatriot]

[anubias]

Blows up in Orange Pantsuit Never-To-Be-Coronated-Queen.

 

[sneakypete]

I feel sorry for anyone that is just now realizes that we live in a corrupt oligarchy

@jpsb

Why? We all came to it in your own time,or will eventually.

I celebrate one more open-minded thinker each time I spot someone with that light-bulb going off over their heads.

So should we all because IF we survive this as a nation,we will need all the thinkers we can get.

[Smokin Joe]

@jpsb

Why? We all came to it in your own time,or will eventually.

I celebrate one more open-minded thinker each time I spot someone with that light-bulb going off over their heads.

So should we all because IF we survive this as a nation,we will need all the thinkers we can get.

'Zactly. Besides, it deprives the oligarchy of one more head full of mush to manipulate.

[Victoria33]

@Oceander

Poster said, "Hey @mystery-ak you ban someone like @Cripplecreek and are fine with this little midget attack oceander? You should be ashamed!"

You said, "Boo-hoo!  Tender little snowflake can’t stand the fact that somebody might not agree with his cherished view that this was treason."

Your posts, as usual, make sense.  Trey Gowdy is close to this matter of the memo so I give him credibility. He explains this matter is not related to Mueller's investigation.  Most of the posts on this matter on this forum, are kneejerk reactions, wanting this to fit what they want, total vindication of Trump, instead of what it really is. I will wait on the Mueller investigation results to have an opinion.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Oceander

Poster said, "Hey @mystery-ak you ban someone like @Cripplecreek and are fine with this little midget attack oceander? You should be ashamed!"

You said, "Boo-hoo!  Tender little snowflake can’t stand the fact that somebody might not agree with his cherished view that this was treason."

Your posts, as usual, make sense.  Trey Gowdy is close to this matter of the memo so I give him credibility. He explains this matter is not related to Mueller's investigation.  Most of the posts on this matter on this forum, are kneejerk reactions, wanting this to fit what they want, total vindication of Trump, instead of what it really is. I will wait on the Mueller investigation results to have an opinion.

 

(As usual, I would add!  Far too much bandwagon jumping going on here.  We don't know squat yet.)

[Smokin Joe]

@Oceander

Poster said, "Hey @mystery-ak you ban someone like @Cripplecreek and are fine with this little midget attack oceander? You should be ashamed!"

You said, "Boo-hoo!  Tender little snowflake can’t stand the fact that somebody might not agree with his cherished view that this was treason."

Your posts, as usual, make sense.  Trey Gowdy is close to this matter of the memo so I give him credibility. He explains this matter is not related to Mueller's investigation.  Most of the posts on this matter on this forum, are kneejerk reactions, wanting this to fit what they want, total vindication of Trump, instead of what it really is. I will wait on the Mueller investigation results to have an opinion.

@Victoria33 I agree. This is about the abuse of power for personal/political gain, and rampant abuse of the public trust. The entire Obama/Clinton crime cartel desperately needs to be brought down, and I believe America would be stunned to know how extensive that organization is. (It's global, it's huge, and it has its tentacles in corners people may never have dreamed of.)

[sneakypete]

@Victoria33 I agree. This is about the abuse of power for personal/political gain, and rampant abuse of the public trust. The entire Obama/Clinton crime cartel desperately needs to be brought down, and I believe America would be stunned to know how extensive that organization is. (It's global, it's huge, and it has its tentacles in corners people may never have dreamed of.)

@Smokin Joe

Maybe,but when it comes to posters,what is bubbling away under the surface is the tremendous fear that Trump will end up winning and looking good as a result. Antie-Trumpers would rather see Trump go down in flames than see Hillary and some other Dims indicted for criminal acts while he is in office. They are protecting RINO turf.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Maybe,but when it comes to posters,what is bubbling away under the surface is the tremendous fear that Trump will end up winning and looking good as a result. Antie-Trumpers would rather see Trump go down in flames than see Hillary and some other Dims indicted for criminal acts while he is in office. They are protecting RINO turf.

As Shakespeare said "Mischief, thou art afoot! Take thou what course thou wilt."

The only people I care about coning out 'winners' are the Americans who want our Republic free of criminality wrapped in a cloak of officialdom and imposed policy. If Trump can count this as a "Win" in that regard, we all win. Let the chips fall where they may. The primaries soured me on Trump, but at this point he is POTUS, and what we have to work with. Considering the opposition on the Left (The DNC Cartel), we'd best make the most of that.

[DCPatriot]

As Shakespeare said "Mischief, thou art afoot! Take thou what course thou wilt."

The only people I care about coning out 'winners' are the Americans who want our Republic free of criminality wrapped in a cloak of officialdom and imposed policy. If Trump can count this as a "Win" in that regard, we all win. Let the chips fall where they may. The primaries soured me on Trump, but at this point he is POTUS, and what we have to work with. Considering the opposition on the Left (The DNC Cartel), we'd best make the most of that.

Tell me one other Republican running for POTUS that you'd want in the Oval Office...with all this dirty sh*t going on?  And for the love of God, don't say 'Cruz'. 

The DEMS have refused to accept the results of the last two presidential elections! 

They are like a grizzly once its tasted human blood...they are 'this close' to their 'UTOPIA'!   

And just as dangerous.

[Smokin Joe]

Tell me one other Republican running for POTUS that you'd want in the Oval Office...with all this dirty sh*t going on?  And for the love of God, don't say 'Cruz'. 

The DEMS have refused to accept the results of the last two presidential elections! 

They are like a grizzly once its tasted human blood...they are 'this close' to their 'UTOPIA'!   

And just as dangerous.

Cruz. 

Yeah, and when they get close they try to take the last steps in one jump--which exposes their BS to
anyone out there with their eyes open. Are you going to believe that America believes the BS the Media is pumping because the media tell you so?  Oldest propaganda trick in the book.
If the dems succeed in imposing their 'utopia' it will be over knee deep blood, as those have been established in the past in such garden spots as Haiti, Uganda, and elsewhere. I do not think that would go well.

[Oceander]

Tell me one other Republican running for POTUS that you'd want in the Oval Office...with all this dirty sh*t going on?  And for the love of God, don't say 'Cruz'. 

The DEMS have refused to accept the results of the last two presidential elections! 

They are like a grizzly once its tasted human blood...they are 'this close' to their 'UTOPIA'!   

And just as dangerous.

With anyone else we would t have had a Russian setup.  No one else was stupid enough to mess around with Russians trying to peddle stolen emails. 

[Cyber Liberty]

With anyone else we would t have had a Russian setup.  No one else was stupid enough to mess around with Russians trying to peddle stolen emails.

What galls me about that bit of foolishness is, I don't think the Russians wanted to peddle emails.  I think they were planning on making a swindle out of it, and fleecing the rube.

[DCPatriot]

With anyone else we would t have had a Russian setup.  No one else was stupid enough to mess around with Russians trying to peddle stolen emails.

That's not the "shit" to which I refer.

Try to keep up, here.   

[Oceander]

That's not the "shit" to which I refer.

Try to keep up, here.   

So Trump stupidity viz. Russians, no shit.  Try to keep up, sparky. 

[sneakypete]

As Shakespeare said "Mischief, thou art afoot! Take thou what course thou wilt."

The only people I care about coning out 'winners' are the Americans who want our Republic free of criminality wrapped in a cloak of officialdom and imposed policy. If Trump can count this as a "Win" in that regard, we all win. Let the chips fall where they may. The primaries soured me on Trump, but at this point he is POTUS, and what we have to work with. Considering the opposition on the Left (The DNC Cartel), we'd best make the most of that.

@Smokin Joe

I couldn't agree more. A win is a win,no matter who fathered it.