Trump declines to implement new Russia sanctions

[corbe]

Trump declines to implement new Russia sanctions

By Olivia Beavers - 01/29/18 09:39 PM EST

The Trump administration told Congress on Monday that bipartisan legislation passed last year authorizing new sanctions on Russia is already "serving as a deterrent," and there's no need to actually implement the penalties at this time.

A spokesperson for the State Department said the mere possibility of facing sanctions through the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) has served as an effective countermeasure.

"Given the long timeframes generally associated with major defense deals, the results of this effort are only beginning to become apparent. From that perspective, if the law is working, sanctions on specific entities or individuals will not need to be imposed because the legislation is, in fact, serving as a deterrent," the spokesperson said.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371333-state-dept-tells-congress-no-additional-russia-sanctions-necessary-at

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Ваше здоровье!

[corbe]

                     Jared and Ivana are glad Daddy's not shutting off the financing.

[edpc]

“By limiting the executive’s flexibility, this bill makes it harder for the United States to strike good deals for the American people, and will drive China, Russia, and North Korea much closer together,” Trump said in a statement at the time.


Then it's a good thing the sanctions weren't implemented.  All the cooperation we're getting from China and Russia with the North Korea issue is competing with all the winning that has gotten so tiring.

[libertybele]

 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Just a reminder. 419 Congressmen and 98 Senators thought sanctions were appropriate for meddling in our elections.  Only Breitbart readers remained flatlined as the FBI, CIA, and NSA revealed the depth and scope of the danger to our free elections.  But WTF do they know?...we got a Trump.

[Frank Cannon]

Obama the fairy had all sorts of sanctions against the Soviets and that did such a good job. Hell, look how well they worked in getting that Crimea spot of bother straightened out.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Obama the fairy had all sorts of sanctions against the Soviets and that did such a good job. Hell, look how well they worked in getting that Crimea spot of bother straightened out.

I believe refusing to enforce the sanctions passed almost unanimously in the Congress sends an incredibly stupid message to Russia.  I should have expected it from President Trump.  I got fooled when he signed it, but that trick will only work once with me.

[Frank Cannon]

I believe refusing to enforce the sanctions passed almost unanimously in the Congress sends an incredibly stupid message to Russia.  I should have expected it from President Trump.  I got fooled when he signed it, but that trick will only work once with me.

Yeah, because sanctions have done so much good in the world. The NORKS have given up their nuclear ambitions, the Ukraine is it's own nation state, Cuba is a bastion of freedom along with Syria, Burma and Iran. We really need MORE sanctions against a country we already have sanctions against because if the first round didn't do effing squat, more will certainly do the trick.

If you want a "sanction" that works every time settling a dispute lets have a hot war. If the issue being resolved isn't worth expending guns, men and bombs, it isn't worth anyone's time.

[TomSea]

Late last year, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said one reason the U.S. was proceeding cautiously was that major U.S. allies have much at stake. Turkey, a NATO ally, has a deal to buy the S-400, Russia's most advanced air defense missile system. And key security partner Saudi Arabia recently struck an array of deals with Moscow, including contracts for weapons. It was unclear whether either country had since abandoned those deals to avoid running afoul of the U.S. sanctions.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/trump-administration-wont-levy-new-russia-sanctions-for-now.html

[TomSea]

CIA director Pompeo has said they expect the US midterm elections this year will be targeted by the Russians.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mike-pompeo-has-every-expectation-russia-will-try-to-meddle-in-the-2018-midterms/article/2647469

[driftdiver]

Just a reminder. 419 Congressmen and 98 Senators thought sanctions were appropriate for meddling in our elections.  Only Breitbart readers remained flatlined as the FBI, CIA, and NSA revealed the depth and scope of the danger to our free elections.  But WTF do they know?...we got a Trump.

@Once-Ler

They don't know what they thought they knew considering that so called evidence has turned out to be a fabrication.

Btw we have 3 equal branches of govt.  The president is supposed to think for himself and not just bow to congress

[driftdiver]

CIA director Pompeo has said they expect the US midterm elections this year will be targeted by the Russians.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mike-pompeo-has-every-expectation-russia-will-try-to-meddle-in-the-2018-midterms/article/2647469

@TomSea

I suspect that's true of every election since about 1935.

[kevindavis007]

@Once-Ler

They don't know what they thought they knew considering that so called evidence has turned out to be a fabrication.

Btw we have 3 equal branches of govt.  The president is supposed to think for himself and not just bow to congress

What a surprise from a Russian loving Trunpkin

[Oceander]

Obama the fairy had all sorts of sanctions against the Soviets and that did such a good job. Hell, look how well they worked in getting that Crimea spot of bother straightened out.

The Soviets ceased to exist in 1989. 

[driftdiver]

The Soviets ceased to exist in 1989.

@Oceander

I have beach front property for sale in Arizona.  Real cheap

[driftdiver]

What a surprise from a Russian loving Trunpkin

@kevindavis
KMA you socialist stooge

Your disdain for the Constitution comes through loud and clear.

[edpc]

@Once-Ler

They don't know what they thought they knew considering that so called evidence has turned out to be a fabrication.

Btw we have 3 equal branches of govt.  The president is supposed to think for himself and not just bow to congress

Except in this case he does.  They have more than enough votes to override a veto by the executive branch.

[driftdiver]

Except in this case he does.  They have more than enough votes to override a veto by the executive branch.

@edpc
A veto vote wouldn't get the same results as the above vote.   Times change.   But even if they can, thats the way the system is supposed to work.  If the President doesn't think something should be done he has a lot of leeway to direct foreign policy.   If Congress thinks he's wrong they need to have a vote on it.

Putin is/was a KGB guy.  He most likely has killed people who threatened his power.  He has definitely jailed people. 

That said it is better to maintain good relations with Russia rather then go full cold war.   The sanctions to date have been useless anyway.

[edpc]

@edpc
A veto vote wouldn't get the same results as the above vote.   Times change.   But even if they can, thats the way the system is supposed to work.  If the President doesn't think something should be done he has a lot of leeway to direct foreign policy.   If Congress thinks he's wrong they need to have a vote on it.

Putin is/was a KGB guy.  He most likely has killed people who threatened his power.  He has definitely jailed people. 

That said it is better to maintain good relations with Russia rather then go full cold war.   The sanctions to date have been useless anyway.

There's no need to have another vote, since the legislation allows flexibility in applying new sanctions.  He can't remove old ones, however.  In as far as relations with Russia goes, they only understand one thing.  Alexandra told Nicholas,  "Russia loves to feel the whip – it's their nature – tender love and then the iron hand to punish and guide."  Whenever they depose one ironhanded system or ruler, they somehow end up with something worse.  Guess she was right, after all.

[Suppressed]

Just a reminder. 419 Congressmen and 98 Senators thought sanctions were appropriate for meddling in our elections.  Only Breitbart readers remained flatlined as the FBI, CIA, and NSA revealed the depth and scope of the danger to our free elections.  But WTF do they know?...we got a Trump.

The sanction bill was not just for interfering in our elections, but also for them interfering in Ukraine, etc.

[driftdiver]

There's no need to have another vote, since the legislation allows flexibility in applying new sanctions.  He can't remove old ones, however.  In as far as relations with Russia goes, they only understand one thing.  Alexandra told Nicholas,  "Russia loves to feel the whip – it's their nature – tender love and then the iron hand to punish and guide."  Whenever they depose one ironhanded system or ruler, they somehow end up with something worse.  Guess she was right, after all.

@edpc
Foreign policy is largely the responsibility of the President.   For better or for worse he has a lot of leeway.

[Oceander]

@Oceander

I have beach front property for sale in Arizona.  Real cheap

Don’t be an idiot.  I know it’s hard, but ...

[driftdiver]

Don’t be an idiot.  I know it’s hard, but ...

@Oceander
Well you;re the one that said the Soviets were no longer there, so you must be the one setting that example.

Of course there are soviets still there.   Many of them in power ( e.g. Putin) and many of them working in the background.

To think they disappeared simply because their economy finally collapsed is beyond fantastical.

[DCPatriot]

@Oceander
Well you;re the one that said the Soviets were no longer there, so you must be the one setting that example.

Of course there are soviets still there.   Many of them in power ( e.g. Putin) and many of them working in the background.

To think they disappeared simply because their economy finally collapsed is beyond fantastical.

@driftdiver

Just like the libs do...., he handed you a tennis racket and let a squirrel loose in the yard.

Instead of debating your point/post, he grabbed onto a minor point (Soviets) on a technicality.

You're absolutely correct.  Just because the "Soviet Union" (USSR) no longer exists, doesn't mean Soviets aren't still running things.