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Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)

by Sen. Mike Lee | Jan 18, 2018, 12:01 AM
 

Remember earmarks, those infamous, special-interest spending provisions party leaders used to sprinkle over legislation like sugar to get representatives and senators to hold their noses and vote yes on bills they would otherwise oppose?

You probably haven’t heard about earmarks lately, thank goodness. Republicans banned them when the Tea Party class came to Washington in 2010 opposed to the crony corruption. Who can forget pork-barrel embarrassments like the “Bridge to Nowhere,” the “Monuments to Me” projects that members got named after themselves, or the turtle tunnel in Florida (yes, it’s a tunnel for turtles)? Earmarks were everything Americans couldn’t stand about Washington – corrupt, wasteful, entitled, and out of touch.

But on Thursday, a House committee will hold a hearing to see about bringing them back. Earmarks were the original Swamp Thing, and just like in Hollywood, Washington is never above an ill-advised sequel to make a quick buck.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 02:18:18 am »
 :amen: Senator Lee!   :amen:
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 02:50:03 am »
   Is FOX (Trump's preferred Network) conservative enough for you @Emjay
   The Granny knows of which she speaks.

Trump endorses earmarks despite conservative opposition
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President Trump on Tuesday endorsed the idea of reviving so-called earmarks – projects and spending items added to appropriations bills on behalf of individual lawmakers.

“Our system lends itself to not getting things done, and I hear so much about earmarks — the old earmark system — how there was a great friendliness when you had earmarks,” the president said during a White House meeting on immigration attended by multiple lawmakers.

“But of course, they had other problems with earmarks. But maybe all of you should start thinking about going back to a form of earmarks,” he continued.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/10/trump-endorses-earmarks-despite-conservative-opposition.html
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 02:52:40 am »
Don't be hitting me with facts, baby.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2018, 02:55:24 am »
Yeah, he did sound as if he thought earmarks would be a good thing, but he didn't totally endorse them.  Maybe he was just throwing out bait to see who would snap at it.

I hope he backs away from this stupid idea, because it totally lends itself to abuse by the worst sort of people ... I mean, congress critters.
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 02:56:53 am »
   So you just want to pick a fight with some unsuspecting Female here, Is that it? If you wouldn't have buddied up so emphatically with @Right_in_Virginia I might have been saved from @CatherineofAragon breaking my heart.
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2018, 03:04:05 am »
   So you just want to pick a fight with some unsuspecting Female here, Is that it? If you wouldn't have buddied up so emphatically with @Right_in_Virginia I might have been saved from @CatherineofAragon breaking my heart.

NO NO NO.  I don't want to pick a fight and Granny is hardly an unsuspecting female.

I defend @Right_in_Virginia occasionally because I kinda admire her.  She comes here every day in spite of horrible abuse and stands by her man.

I'm sorry your girlfriend went back to her husband but maybe she just realized you are not husband material.

Please, won't you play another somebody done somebody wrong song.
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2018, 03:10:34 am »
   Hon, I empathize with all of what you typed except that @Right_in_Virginia suffers horrible abuse here. She dishes out just as much, if nor more, than she absorbs, I've got time-outs to prove it.  Probably the main reason 'they' wont make me a Mod, they know she'd be a quick casualty, collateral damage, of course.
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2018, 03:12:44 am »
   Hon, I empathize with all of what you typed except that @Right_in_Virginia suffers horrible abuse here. She dishes out just as much, if nor more, than she absorbs, I've got time-outs to prove it.  Probably the main reason 'they' wont make me a Mod, they know she'd be a quick casualty, collateral damage, of course.

You cannot possibly expect me to believe that anyone would abuse you here @corbe
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2018, 03:16:20 am »
   She's good but she couldn't hold a candle to Frank&Nuts.


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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2018, 03:16:29 am »
I haven't clicked on your sources but every one of them is from a Trump hating media source.

I'll have to have more than that to believe Trump would endorse earmarks.  Or earwigs.  Or anything ear related.

JHC, there's video of him saying it from the televised "negotiations".  The same televised negotiations where he said he'd sign anything the people in the room put in front of him.  What a bleep joke.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2018, 03:22:46 am »
JHC, there's video of him saying it from the televised "negotiations".  The same televised negotiations where he said he'd sign anything the people in the room put in front of him.  What a bleep joke.

I watched both live but somehow, I'm afraid some hardcore supporters will deny he said either.
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2018, 03:22:50 am »


I have absolutely no problem with bribes...Er .."earmarks".  If it gets things done. Works for me..... hell it has worked in every form of government since time immemorial.

And really, if you look at how much "earmarks" cost per year. Inconsequential, whores are cheap.. cheaper by the dozen..... Well, not that I have an experience with that.... Ahem.  Viagra... a hell of a drug.  :smokin:

Seriously though, consider "earmarks...bribes" the oil keepin' the machine workin'. Always has been and always will be.

Not bribing POls is like not using a gun in war. Good luck with that.


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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2018, 03:49:25 am »
I watched both live but somehow, I'm afraid some hardcore supporters will deny he said either.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2018, 04:01:44 am »
Sure thing Mike, because the absence of earmarks has really slowed spending down to almost nothing.

This is straw man bullshit.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2018, 04:03:22 am »
Sure thing Mike, because the absence of earmarks has really slowed spending down to almost nothing.

This is straw man bullshit.

What I said..fewer words.  :beer:
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2018, 04:04:13 am »
Sure thing Mike, because the absence of earmarks has really slowed spending down to almost nothing.

This is straw man bullshit.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2018, 04:12:33 am »
A rose by any other word would smell as sweet.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2018, 04:13:55 am »
Crimson and Clover.

I'm just mad about saffron.

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2018, 04:15:58 am »
    She's just mad at me over and over
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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2018, 04:18:32 am »
I'm just mad about saffron.

I thought Donovan sang about pecans?

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2018, 04:19:49 am »
I thought Donovan sang about pecans?

Who's Donovan?

Anyway, did you ever hear the story about how the first pecan grove in Georgia was established?

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Re: Sen. Mike Lee: Say no to the return of the Swamp Thing (aka earmarks)
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2018, 04:22:02 am »
Who's Donovan?

Anyway, did you ever hear the story about how the first pecan grove in Georgia was established?

I did. They cut the whole damn orchard down to build George Washington's first set of false teeth.