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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #125 on: January 10, 2018, 06:46:50 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 10, 2018, 06:33:51 pm

Facts are facts.  Among them are the corrective actions promised in his platform about the decades of illegal immigration and the problems they've caused.  How dare we expect him to do exactly what he said he would.
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Yes.  How dare ANYONE to do what he said he would do.

Because, everyone KNEW he was just playing 6th dimensional chess and he didn't really mean it, he said what he needed to to WIN.

SUCKERS.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #126 on: January 10, 2018, 06:51:53 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 10, 2018, 06:34:41 pm
Wow...interesting that at the age of 4, you were wondering if your parents were committing a crime!  :whistle:

Come on liberty, you are not that slow that you don’t recognize sarcasm..

A four-year-old querying his parents on immigration law?
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #127 on: January 10, 2018, 06:56:47 pm »
I love the plethora of opportunities Trump presents for NeverTrumpers, who are always first on the draw, to be dead wrong.

So far, they’re batting 1000.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #128 on: January 10, 2018, 07:01:55 pm »
If and when WE get ready to truly solve our immigration problem we should look at simply adopting Mexico's immigration laws as our own!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Mexico
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #129 on: January 10, 2018, 07:03:16 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 10, 2018, 06:56:47 pm
I love the plethora of opportunities Trump presents for NeverTrumpers, who are always first on the draw, to be dead wrong.

So far, they’re batting 1000.

   Jury's still out @aligncare we're only 25% through his Administration.
   Sure there are quite a few of us NOT on the Trump Train but as I mentioned earlier many of us are starting to make that long, arduous journey toward the Train Station only a few want to 'burn it down' as some of you Trumpers suspect.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #130 on: January 10, 2018, 07:04:30 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 10, 2018, 06:51:53 pm
Come on liberty, you are not that slow that you don’t recognize sarcasm..

A four-year-old querying his parents on immigration law?
No worry. My MIL came here from Italy around 1946. Italy was torn by war. She was probably entirely legal since she was about to enter an old world arranged marriage.

She was the middle child of three, who had lost their parents during childhood, and grew up with Aunts, Uncles etc. The eldest boy had been drafted into Mussolini's army, taken POW, escaped, and after the war he wanted to join his sister in America.

He came to visit as a tourist, met a woman (also Italian, medical student at USC) and fell in love. He would then exhaust various means and methods to gain permanent entry, to become a legal resident--which he did. In fact for his eulogy, his SIL emphasized how proud he was to have taken the legal path.

 
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #131 on: January 10, 2018, 07:05:55 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 10, 2018, 06:51:53 pm
Come on liberty, you are not that slow that you don’t recognize sarcasm..

A four-year-old querying his parents on immigration law?

Actually, you can't be that slow not to recognize my sarcasm ... please note: " :whistle:"  Good grief!
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #132 on: January 10, 2018, 07:11:27 pm »
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #133 on: January 10, 2018, 07:14:24 pm »
Levin pretty much devoted yesterday's show to the DACA meeting.  Personally, I have a difficult time listening to him, because his voice is a bit shrill for me.  Nevertheless, he's dead on in his analysis.  It's worth the listen if you have time.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7bq7GXKxas
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #134 on: January 10, 2018, 07:18:34 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 10, 2018, 07:14:24 pm
Levin pretty much devoted yesterday's show to the DACA meeting.  Personally, I have a difficult time listening to him, because his voice is a bit shrill for me.  Nevertheless, he's dead on in his analysis.  It's worth the listen if you have time.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7bq7GXKxas

Levin reads much better than he listens.  ^-^
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #135 on: January 10, 2018, 07:28:19 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 10, 2018, 07:14:24 pm
Levin pretty much devoted yesterday's show to the DACA meeting.  Personally, I have a difficult time listening to him, because his voice is a bit shrill for me.  Nevertheless, he's dead on in his analysis.  It's worth the listen if you have time.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7bq7GXKxas

I'm listening now.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #136 on: January 10, 2018, 07:35:14 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 10, 2018, 06:51:53 pm
Come on liberty, you are not that slow that you don’t recognize sarcasm..

A four-year-old querying his parents on immigration law?

Why not? Amy Carter, at the ripe old age of 9, advised her father on the dangers of nuclear proliferation.  lol

No such luck with my kids or grandson. It's basketball season, and my 7YO grandson is focused on the Zags. Kid's a sports freak, just like his Opa at that age. He had two library books in his backpack yesterday, both about a couple of NFL teams (Pats and Steelers).

Sorry for being O/T, but my parents didn't mind me reading nothing but sports books outside of school. I was reading, and that's what mattered.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #137 on: January 10, 2018, 07:35:35 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on January 10, 2018, 07:18:34 pm
Levin reads much better than he listens.  ^-^


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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #138 on: January 10, 2018, 07:38:31 pm »
Quote from: corbe on January 10, 2018, 07:03:16 pm
   Jury's still out @aligncare we're only 25% through his Administration.
   Sure there are quite a few of us NOT on the Trump Train but as I mentioned earlier many of us are starting to make that long, arduous journey toward the Train Station only a few want to 'burn it down' as some of you Trumpers suspect.

Let me know when you're ready, I have access to (virtual) napalm and (virtual) C4.

TO EVERYONE OUT THERE:  THAT'S A JOKE!!!!!

For those looking for people who really want to burn down the Trump Train Station, I'm sure there's a line a mile long somewhere.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #139 on: January 10, 2018, 07:39:25 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 10, 2018, 06:56:47 pm
I love the plethora of opportunities Trump presents for NeverTrumpers, who are always first on the draw, to be dead wrong.

So far, they’re batting 1000.

Where have the NT's been dead wrong? Educate me...
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #140 on: January 10, 2018, 07:48:27 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on January 10, 2018, 07:39:25 pm
Where have the NT's been dead wrong? Educate me...
Quick and dirty, "he won't get the nomination, he won't win the election, he won't get anything done, he will self-destruct in a few months, he's incompetent, he's crazy, he won't cut taxes, he won't gain new respect overseas, he won't appoint conservative judges and justices, he will not curtail illegal immigration, ad infinitum"

Now let me anticipate your reply: "that isn't dead wrong"

For which we can start a discussion about how many angels fit on the head of a pin, after which we can debate the nature of pins and angels, after which we can ask how come Reagan did Amnesty without curtailing chain migration?

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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2018, 07:49:26 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 10, 2018, 06:56:47 pm
I love the plethora of opportunities Trump presents for NeverTrumpers, who are always first on the draw, to be dead wrong.

So far, they’re batting 1000.


I think the guy is a FOS con artist who believes in very little of what he ran on in 2016, based on previous positions he's taken and books he's written.  There's absolutely zero gain for me in being correct.  I would love to be wrong about believing he'll sell us out.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #142 on: January 10, 2018, 07:50:33 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 10, 2018, 07:35:35 pm

Always reminded me of tomcats fighting in the alley.     ***evilkitty

Well, a single tomcat maybe.

You'd have to add Hannity to have the sound of a legitimate two-cat fight.  ^-^
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #143 on: January 10, 2018, 07:52:17 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on January 10, 2018, 07:39:25 pm
Where have the NT's been dead wrong? Educate me...

Oh shit, you just HAD to go there, didn't you?
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #144 on: January 10, 2018, 07:52:21 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on January 10, 2018, 07:39:25 pm
Where have the NT's been dead wrong? Educate me...

Can you imagine any conservative believing that Trump's been right on everything and people who oppose him wrong on everything??


No??


Can't do it???


Neither can any legit conservative.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #145 on: January 10, 2018, 07:55:10 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on January 10, 2018, 07:52:21 pm
Can you imagine any conservative believing that Trump's been right on everything and people who oppose him wrong on everything??


No??


Can't do it???


Neither can any legit conservative.

If I can't do it with Ted Cruz or Ronald Reagan, it can't be done.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #146 on: January 10, 2018, 07:56:17 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on January 10, 2018, 07:48:27 pm
Quick and dirty, "he won't get the nomination, he won't win the election, he won't get anything done, he will self-destruct in a few months, he's incompetent, he's crazy, he won't cut taxes, he won't gain new respect overseas, he won't appoint conservative judges and justices, he will not curtail illegal immigration, ad infinitum"

Now let me anticipate your reply: "that isn't dead wrong"

For which we can start a discussion about how many angels fit on the head of a pin, after which we can debate the nature of pins and angels, after which we can ask how come Reagan did Amnesty without curtailing chain migration?

Hmm... my recollection of the people that questioned him, particularly on policy, was that because of his recent change of mind of whether he was a democrat, republican or somewhere in between (well... you know what I mean), that there was no *proof* that he would follow through on his promises that seemed conservative for the most part.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #147 on: January 10, 2018, 08:02:15 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on January 10, 2018, 07:56:17 pm
Hmm... my recollection of the people that questioned him, particularly on policy, was that because of his recent change of mind of whether he was a democrat, republican or somewhere in between (well... you know what I mean), that there was no *proof* that he would follow through on his promises that seemed conservative for the most part.

He's exactly what I expected him to be despite the lying cowardice of his slavish devotees who continue to make endless adjustments to stay behind him.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #148 on: January 10, 2018, 08:06:45 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on January 10, 2018, 08:02:15 pm
He's exactly what I expected him to be despite the lying cowardice of his slavish devotees who continue to make endless adjustments to stay behind him.

It's just that the constant, unending, hashed and rehashed again and beating the dead horse so much he looks like a run over frog conversation about it is soooooo bleep old and tired.
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Re: Trump: DACA solution should be a 'bill of love'
« Reply #149 on: January 10, 2018, 08:08:55 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on January 10, 2018, 07:55:10 pm
If I can't do it with Ted Cruz or Ronald Reagan, it can't be done.

Great point.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.
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