Schumer: Trump will be blamed for shutdown over wall

[Oceander]

Nope, not drooling at all and I've never considered myself a "Trump" supporter.  The wall should have been built in 2006 after the "Secure Fence Act" was passed by BOTH houses!!  Instead, we've allowed their numbers to increase and increasing the significant amount of money they have cost taxpayers along with increasing the significant amount of crimes that they have committed against U.S. citizens.

So you’d feel better if those crimes were committed by those who are illegally because they came here legally but overstayed their visas?   No wall, no matter how much it gets you off, is going to stop those illegals. 

[libertybele]

So you’d feel better if those crimes were committed by those who are illegally because they came here legally but overstayed their visas?   No wall, no matter how much it gets you off, is going to stop those illegals.

You obviously missed the point of the wall:  DEPORTATION IS A MUST. BUILDING A WALL IS A MUST.  The Wall prevents them from returning and the newbie illegals from entering.

[jmyrlefuller]

Calm down, LB.   Most illegals come here to work, not pillage and plunder.   Of course, those that do should be punished swiftly and surely.   But the "dreamers" have spent most of their lives in the United States, and effectively know no other home.  Most are as law-abiding as their situations permit them to be,  and must show themselves to be productive and educated in order to qualify for "dreamer" relief.   

I am perfectly willing to normalize the dreamers in exchange for effective immigration reform.   And I am not going to wave the bloody shirt as you do to demonize men and women who in many cases work harder than native born Americans,  even as they endure exploitation and the enmity of folks like you.   

Every illegal alien child smuggled into this country and granted a seat in our public school system steals those resources from legal citizens. Every illegal alien worker who comes to the United States takes away a job opportunity from a lawful American resident. Every illegal alien allowed to squat in the United States takes away land and a home from an American who needs it, and abets the invasion and slow bleed of our resources that our government is constitutionally required to defend against but will not.

[Oceander]

You obviously missed the point of the wall:  DEPORTATION IS A MUST. BUILDING A WALL IS A MUST.  The Wall prevents them from returning and the newbie illegals from entering.

Bullshit.  Pure, unmitigated bullshit.  Certainly it’ll keep some away, but the ones who are criminals - exactly the ones you say you’re worried about - won’t be deterred; they’re already criminals, so why would they care about a wall?  They’d just dig under it or go around it. Your killers would still be here.

[jmyrlefuller]

Certainly it’ll keep some away, but the ones who are criminals - exactly the ones you say you’re worried about - won’t be deterred; they’re already criminals, so why would they care about a wall?

It doesn't matter whether they care about it or not. It's about making it physically impossible to get in without permission.

[Oceander]

It doesn't matter whether they care about it or not. It's about making it physically impossible to get in without permission.

Which is impossible.  Even if you go full tilt Nazi/Stalinist/Stassi, there’s always the water.  Are you going to build a wall along every inch of shore line and the entire Canadian border as well as the Rio Grande?

[jmyrlefuller]

Which is impossible.  Even if you go full tilt Nazi/Stalinist/Stassi, there’s always the water.  Are you going to build a wall along every inch of shore line and the entire Canadian border as well as the Rio Grande?

Unless you're Jesus Christ, they're not going to simply run across the water—and if Jesus is going to make his Second Coming that way, we have a lot more problems on our hands than any defense system will ever achieve.

It took Diana Nyad five tries to swim across the strait between Florida and Cuba, and that's only 90 miles. Waterways are a much slower and more easily patrolled form of entry than land. For that, use the Coast Guard.

[Frank Cannon]

I'm talking legal immigration, not the illegal variety.   Not "cut rate foreigners" but skilled folks who'd have to be paid the same wages and benefits as anyone else. 

If employers can't get the qualified workers they need here,  they'll simply outsource to foreign locales.   Sensible legal immigration is a key to sustained domestic economic growth.   

Disney is replacing people from this country with people from other countries using this sham visa program. We have all the qualified people we need. What we don't have are companies willing to pay for them. Under your bullshit plan we will have educated people mopping tables at Denny's so that Fortune 500 companies and save a buck. Sounds great to me.

[Oceander]

Disney is replacing people from this country with people from other countries using this sham visa program. We have all the qualified people we need. What we don't have are companies willing to pay for them. Under your bullshit plan we will have educated people mopping tables at Denny's so that Fortune 500 companies and save a buck. Sounds great to me.

[Fantom]

I think most people would trade shutting down the government for a wall.

I'm still not sure about the logistics of a wall but we'll see what we see.

Wrong visuals.

Most Americans would be in favor of paying Grandmas SS instead of shutting down government  for illegal aliens.

Can't wait until President Trump tells democrats to just send a clean funding bill to his desk so Grandma can get her check.. and the obamaphones can still keep ringing. Amercans first he will say.. illegals ....meh   

Just think of the TV commercials if democrats/left shut down government for illegal aliens. Peloser/Scmuck throwing Grandma into the Rio Grande... Illegal stepping on her to claim her SS.

Hmmmn Hmmnn Hmnn.

[Smokin Joe]

Schumer, as usual, gets it backwards.

It should be "Trump will be CREDITED for shutdown over wall."


"The only time a man's life, liberty and property are safe is when the Legislature's not in session."
Mark Twain

You have to keep in mind that what for Schumer is "good", the rest of us see as "evil" and what Chucky sees as "bad" the rest of us see as "good". It is why that which gets a Republican or other COnservative drawn and quartered (politically) is a resume enhancer for a Democrat/Communist/Liberal.

[MajorClay]

Don't bet your life on it Putzhead.

[RetBobbyMI]

Well, you're being bamboozled again.   There will be no 2,000-mile wall.  Even TS admits that the "wall" is merely symbolic.

Be it a wall or whatever, if we can’t or won’t control our borders, we are lost as a country. And the rule of law as it applies to immigration will be totally worthless.

[Fantom]

Bullshit.  Pure, unmitigated bullshit.  Certainly it’ll keep some away, but the ones who are criminals - exactly the ones you say you’re worried about - won’t be deterred; they’re already criminals, so why would they care about a wall?  They’d just dig under it or go around it. Your killers would still be here.

They are ALL criminals... every last illegal alien.

[ArneFufkin]

I think his performance today went a long way to block that gambit.   Might have been part of the stratagery.

[Bigun]

They are ALL criminals... every last illegal alien.

Indeed they are.  And they will never stop coming as long as we continue to welcome them with open arms the second they arrive.

[corbe]

   Maybe Schumer is remembering the last time a Senator shut down the Govt and his party regained control of the Congress.

[Hoodat]

I think most people would trade shutting down the government for a wall.

Wait, shut down the government AND build a wall?  That's a WIN-WIN.

[RetBobbyMI]

Wait, shut down the government AND build a wall?  That's a WIN-WIN.

[libertybele]

Every illegal alien child smuggled into this country and granted a seat in our public school system steals those resources from legal citizens. Every illegal alien worker who comes to the United States takes away a job opportunity from a lawful American resident. Every illegal alien allowed to squat in the United States takes away land and a home from an American who needs it, and abets the invasion and slow bleed of our resources that our government is constitutionally required to defend against but will not.

 

[Fantom]

   Maybe Schumer is remembering the last time a Senator shut down the Govt and his party regained control of the Congress.

Subtle, with a tantalizing savory flavor.... Kudos! 

[corbe]

Subtle, with a tantalizing savory flavor.... Kudos! 

   Didn't want to mention any names cause the ones here that really dislike that guy are having another bad week and it's only Tuesday.

[Frank Cannon]

Indeed they are.  And they will never stop coming as long as we continue to welcome them with open arms the second they arrive.

I don't know. Maybe welcoming them with "open arms" wouldn't be a bad idea....

[libertybele]

   Didn't want to mention any names cause the ones here that really dislike that guy are having another bad week and it's only Tuesday.

   Bazinga!

[Bigun]

I don't know. Maybe welcoming them with "open arms" wouldn't be a bad idea....

I could go for welcoming them with locked and loaded arms.  Is that a compromise you might be interested in pursuing sir?