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Re: Q-anon; 4chan; 8chan etc. Really Cleaning Out Top of the Swamp???
« Reply #725 on: May 06, 2018, 04:50:37 am »
"Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein had retsyn [?] and Bill Clinton listed among his  contacts in his little black book. And, his private island--known as orgy island--is less than 40 miles away from Necker Island, within the Virgin Islands cluster. And I think this Richard Branson guy is like the Virgin CEO ...[yes]."

Trump is a good friend of Epstein.  He went to parties Epstein had in New York with underage girls. Therefore, Trump should be in GITMO today. When are they going to arrest him and put him away forever?   See, anyone can accuse anyone of anything and it is a sin every time you claim these people, such as Pence and Tillerson and all the rest are violating children and eating them.  You need to talk to God about what you are doing.

I do try to present enough evidently convincing sources to have some sort of dialogue about the allegations.

I don't think any of us as average uninvolved citizens know enough to sentence anyone to anything over anything.

I have observed a LOT of questionable stuff about a lot of conflicted issues and events for decades. And, after a time--given a large variety of more reliable sources ... one can BEGIN to get a sense, a gestalt about how the wind blows and what is likely to end up proven eventually. But I keenly know that is not the same things as proof. Time  will ultimately tell.

I don't think it is sinful to raise issues about good and evil and to encourage alertness, dialogue, wariness etc. over things that are so utterly critical to our health and survival as a nation.
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« Reply #726 on: May 06, 2018, 05:49:20 am »
MAGA & QANON UPDATES 5.5.18--Q COMMUNITY SCHISM OR DISINFO ATTEMPT? FBI & FIRED FBI UPDATES

DUSTIN NEMOS 5 MAY 2018

NOW INTO THE 'JUSTICE' PHASE OF THE PROJECT


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Comey Caught In Lie Over Flynn Investigation IG report reveals FBI had virtually nothing on former National Security

recent FBI related news

 â€“ A newly unredacted section of a House Intel Committee report reveals that former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe told Congressional investigators that the FBI had virtually no case against Mike Flynn


– The same report reveals that James Comey contradicted himself during a recent interview with Bret Baier


– Comey, McCabe and then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord gave the committee “conflicting testimony”


– Anti-Trump FBI “Lovebird” Lisa Page (with whom Peter Strzok was having an affaird) has flown the coop, tendering her resignation on Friday


– One of Comey’s closest confidants, former FBI top lawyer James A. Baker also resigned Friday


– A newly unredacted version of the House Intelligence Committee’s final report on Russia was released on Friday, containing bombshell revelations stemming from the Congressional testimony of former FBI and DOJ officials Andrew McCabe and James Comey.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/04/admiral-mike-rogers-retires-turns-over-u-s-cyber-command-and-nsa-to-general-paul-nakasone-as-unified-combatant-command/

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« Reply #727 on: May 06, 2018, 11:36:26 am »
STING OPERATION JUST LAUNCHED AGAINST THE DEEPSTATE "OBAMA & HILLARY ON THE MOVE"

WIKIPOLITICS 4 MAY 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsy_9h62TQ4


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« Reply #728 on: May 06, 2018, 12:09:47 pm »
OVER 11 INDICTMENTS UNSEALED!! OBAMA, CLINTON & THE PODESTA'S SET FOR GITMO

WIKILEAKS TV 30 APR 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_t34q0JVk

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« Reply #729 on: May 06, 2018, 07:16:48 pm »
MARK TAYLOR INTERVIEW 4 MAY 2018

MIDTERM WILL BE HISTORIC

WITCHES FASTING AGAINST PRESIDENT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l7tK_4tjGA

IF AT ALL FEEL LED TO RUN FOR OFFICE, JUDGSHIPS ETC AS A CHRISTIAN--DO SO.

VOTE BY PAPER BALLOT

LARRY NICHOLS AND TEAM BLITZED 4 STATES THAT HILLARY KNEW SHE HAD LOCKED UP BY VOTER FRAUD ETC. TOLD EVERYONE TO VOTE BY PAPER BALLOT--ENOUGH DID, THEY WON THE 4 STATES FOR TRUMP

GOOD AUDIO TO LISTEN TO.

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« Reply #730 on: May 06, 2018, 07:37:33 pm »

DONALD TRUMP'S SPACE FORCE--SECRET SPACE PROGRAM DISCLOSURE COMING


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNI6tUGGJNM

Asks WHAT DOES TRUMP KNOW ABOUT SUCH?

3 MAY 2018

INCLUDES LINK:

WILLIAM TOMPKINS FINAL INTERVIEW:

https://bit.ly/2I5UBppInterview w/ Classified Scientist Emery Smith - Deep Underground Bases & Examining ET Bodies - https://bit.ly/2rdQuwS

The SECRET SPACE PROGRAM - A Brief Overview -


https://bit.ly/2w77fQb

The 5 Minute Redpill: Secret Space Program -
https://bit.ly/2jnKrSS


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INTERESTING. Time will tell how true.

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Re: Q-anon; 4chan; 8chan etc. Really Cleaning Out Top of the Swamp???
« Reply #731 on: May 06, 2018, 07:38:34 pm »
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Re: Q-anon; 4chan; 8chan etc. Really Cleaning Out Top of the Swamp???
« Reply #732 on: May 06, 2018, 08:55:30 pm »
MARK TAYLOR INTERVIEW 4 MAY 2018
VOTE BY PAPER BALLOT
LARRY NICHOLS AND TEAM BLITZED 4 STATES THAT HILLARY KNEW SHE HAD LOCKED UP BY VOTER FRAUD ETC. TOLD EVERYONE TO VOTE BY PAPER BALLOT--ENOUGH DID, THEY WON THE 4 STATES FOR TRUMP


The above is a lie.  I worked with paper ballots in a county using paper ballots.  No one can ask for a paper ballot if that is not the system the county has and if they have a paper ballot system, voters would not have to ask for a paper ballot.  The most fraud and easiest way to commit voter fraud is by paper ballots since they are handled by humans from beginning to end of election day, then they are carried to the county central counting station and handled some more. 

About voting machines.  I worked with voting machines in a county that used them. That Youtube film said Soros can change voting machines.  That is a lie.  Each voting machine is just a counter and plugged into the wall and NEVER IS ON LINE FOR ANYONE TO GET TO IT AND CHANGE ANYTHING.  There is also an extra counter sealed inside the machine and no one can open that machine and take the counter out.  Only a technician from the company can open that machine and take the counter out.  This extra counter inside the machine is only taken out if there is a problem with the count.       

The counter module (not the extra counter) with the total vote of a machine is taken out by both election judges, one Democrat, one Republican, and both get in the same car, or one behind the other, and is carried to the county central counting station and their car(s) is/are followed by a sheriff's deputy so the car with the modules does not stop except at red lights. 

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« Reply #733 on: May 06, 2018, 09:04:02 pm »
Let me know when Trump is taken to GITMO for lying over 3,000 times since being president, and assaulting women and paying off women with whom he had sex.  Some were likely under age as Trump is a friend of the guy who was arrested for giving parties with underage girls and Trump went to his parties.  I don't know if he killed and ate any but maybe he did.  As you say, time will tell.

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« Reply #734 on: May 06, 2018, 09:23:28 pm »
The above is a lie.  I worked with paper ballots in a county using paper ballots.  No one can ask for a paper ballot if that is not the system the county has and if they have a paper ballot system, voters would not have to ask for a paper ballot.  The most fraud and easiest way to commit voter fraud is by paper ballots since they are handled by humans from beginning to end of election day, then they are carried to the county central counting station and handled some more. 


True, except for the mail-in ballots.  They are always paper.  I hate that they're becoming ubiquitous, because that's where the greatest opportunity for chicanery is today.
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« Reply #735 on: May 06, 2018, 09:33:49 pm »
True, except for the mail-in ballots.  They are always paper.  I hate that they're becoming ubiquitous, because that's where the greatest opportunity for chicanery is today.
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You are right.  I was the Judge of the Early Voting Ballot Board for ten years in my county.  It is that board that deals with mail in ballots.  I also taught how to find fraud in mail ballots and throw them out, to Early Voting Ballot Boards in numerous Texas counties.

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« Reply #736 on: May 06, 2018, 10:06:19 pm »
The above is a lie.  I worked with paper ballots in a county using paper ballots.  No one can ask for a paper ballot if that is not the system the county has and if they have a paper ballot system, voters would not have to ask for a paper ballot.  The most fraud and easiest way to commit voter fraud is by paper ballots since they are handled by humans from beginning to end of election day, then they are carried to the county central counting station and handled some more. 

About voting machines.  I worked with voting machines in a county that used them. That Youtube film said Soros can change voting machines.  That is a lie.  Each voting machine is just a counter and plugged into the wall and NEVER IS ON LINE FOR ANYONE TO GET TO IT AND CHANGE ANYTHING.  There is also an extra counter sealed inside the machine and no one can open that machine and take the counter out.  Only a technician from the company can open that machine and take the counter out.  This extra counter inside the machine is only taken out if there is a problem with the count.       

The counter module (not the extra counter) with the total vote of a machine is taken out by both election judges, one Democrat, one Republican, and both get in the same car, or one behind the other, and is carried to the county central counting station and their car(s) is/are followed by a sheriff's deputy so the car with the modules does not stop except at red lights.

In the 2012 election, there were 54 precincts in which Romney got ZERO votes.  That is statistically preposterous.  The cheating was obvious.

In 2012 and in 2016, there were MANY complaints across the country that the voting machines would record Republican votes as votes for the Democrat right before the voters' very eyes.  I don't know any further details, but it was scandalous stuff--although not reported anywhere by the national MSM.

In the 2012 election, the Republican lady running against Harry Reid was way ahead (2 to 1?) in a vote count that flipped to favor Harry Reid by more than 2 to 1 after an hours-long power outage. 

In 2008, Obama's ACORN was found by the FBI to be indictable for all sorts of voter registration fraud in 13 states.  The election went forward, Obama won, and the charges were dismissed.

In 2016, a PhD chemist highly favored to break through the Democrat wall of dominance of Austin's city politics got beaten soundly.  Serious allegations of systematic voting fraud at the central counting office were uncovered.  Computer engineers figured out the mechanism, involving programming fraud for tallying the precinct votes. 

Optical readers would have prevented this and left a paper trail in the event of a re-count.  So would absentee ballots (which are paper ballots, of course).  Speaking of paper ballots, the 2000 election was almost stolen by Al Gore and his Chicago-based Campaign Chairman (Richard Daley, Jr.), who used one of the most infamous and long-standing voting frauds in American history--Chicago's butterfly ballot fraud.  Chicago is the epicenter of American Communism, by the way, and the home of ACORN, to boot.

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Anyway, I don't see why you bothered to decry the Larry Nichols post.  The Democrats are obvious cheats.  That fact stands despite your knowledge of certain aspects of security for election integrity.  The DHS report, scheduled to hit soon, will decisively unmask the Democrats.  My goodness, Victoria, why do you think the Dems oppose voter IDs?  Their claim that voter ID laws are designed to suppress legal votes is PATENTLY STUPID.

Lenin said something to the effect of "We will use ballot fraud until we get the guns.  Then we will re-consider our strategy."
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« Reply #737 on: May 06, 2018, 11:28:08 pm »
The above is a lie.  I worked with paper ballots in a county using paper ballots.  No one can ask for a paper ballot if that is not the system the county has and if they have a paper ballot system, voters would not have to ask for a paper ballot.  The most fraud and easiest way to commit voter fraud is by paper ballots since they are handled by humans from beginning to end of election day, then they are carried to the county central counting station and handled some more. 

About voting machines.  I worked with voting machines in a county that used them. That Youtube film said Soros can change voting machines.  That is a lie.  Each voting machine is just a counter and plugged into the wall and NEVER IS ON LINE FOR ANYONE TO GET TO IT AND CHANGE ANYTHING.  There is also an extra counter sealed inside the machine and no one can open that machine and take the counter out.  Only a technician from the company can open that machine and take the counter out.  This extra counter inside the machine is only taken out if there is a problem with the count.       

The counter module (not the extra counter) with the total vote of a machine is taken out by both election judges, one Democrat, one Republican, and both get in the same car, or one behind the other, and is carried to the county central counting station and their car(s) is/are followed by a sheriff's deputy so the car with the modules does not stop except at red lights. 

So, you are  keenly acquainted with all the laws, regs etc. of such in all those states?
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« Reply #738 on: May 07, 2018, 12:14:09 am »
Let me know when Trump is taken to GITMO for lying over 3,000 times since being president, and assaulting women and paying off women with whom he had sex.  Some were likely under age as Trump is a friend of the guy who was arrested for giving parties with underage girls and Trump went to his parties.  I don't know if he killed and ate any but maybe he did.  As you say, time will tell.

1. My observations of POTUS since his election is that he's pretty meticulous about honoring his commitments, campaign promises etc. farrrrrrrrr more than the rest of the Presidents in my lifetime put together. I can't recall any deliberate lying on his part since being sworn in. The "3,000" times seems really off-the-wall inaccurate, to me. You don't seem to be abiding by your own criteria in assessing truth that you seemingly so strictly apply to the other side of the issues and people you comment on.

2. I'm exceedingly skeptical about his purported diddling all the women claiming he did. I've never seen so much time, resources etc. being spent to bring anyone down as are spent against him the whole rest of my life.

3. There's no evidence he diddled anyone under age. If I'd made such a brazen allegation, I think you'd have been all over  me quite fiercely for such an unwarranted, unsubstantiated assertion.

4. What I don't understand is your fierce bias against POTUS. I understand your basing it on your research into his life. I still don't understand why you think he was a far worse candidate for the  position than Shrillery. Her evils have long been known and documented by dozens of first hand witnesses affirming the same things dozens of times. Mystifying. I'm beginning to think that your may not even claim to be a conservative but that boggles my mind, too.

5. Nevertheless I still treasure you as a person and fellow Christian.
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« Reply #739 on: May 07, 2018, 12:24:23 am »
TEXT THREAD BY PRAYINGMEDIC:

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[size=1.7rem]Thread by @prayingmedic: "1) This is my thread for May 5, 2018 The Qdrop app & Q websites won't pick up new posts until Q's new tripcode is used. Websites […]" #Qanon #DrainTheSwamp5 MAY 2018


It is well worth reading, imho. He may be the best commentator on the QAnon stuff.[/size]
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« Reply #740 on: May 07, 2018, 12:32:07 am »
So, you are  keenly acquainted with all the laws, regs etc. of such in all those states?

Yes, I know those laws because they are now federal laws each state must follow. 
After the 2000 election, Bush against Gore, the Florida fiasco, the United States government wrote new election laws that every state has to follow.  Before that, the states had only their laws which could be different from state to state.  Punch cards to vote were outlawed.  Some states/counties used paper ballots and they still can but there are election laws to follow using them due to those federal laws.  I was working in the party when these new laws went into effect - Texas had to change their laws just as all other states did.

Then, the government offered money to states if they wanted electronic voting machines.  States took that money and voting machines were put into states using the laws that govern them.  I was working with the state party when all those machines were put in, just as other states did that.

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« Reply #741 on: May 07, 2018, 12:37:06 am »

Thanks. Wondered if that was the case.

Yes, I know those laws because they are now federal laws each state must follow. 
After the 2000 election, Bush against Gore, the Florida fiasco, the United States government wrote new election laws that every state has to follow.  Before that, the states had only their laws which could be different from state to state.  Punch cards to vote were outlawed.  Some states/counties used paper ballots and they still can but there are election laws to follow using them due to those federal laws.  I was working in the party when these new laws went into effect - Texas had to change their laws just as all other states did.

Then, the government offered money to states if they wanted electronic voting machines.  States took that money and voting machines were put into states using the laws that govern them.  I was working with the state party when all those machines were put in, just as other states did that.
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« Reply #742 on: May 07, 2018, 01:29:55 am »
"I can't recall any deliberate lying on his part since being sworn in."

There are groups who keep a record of his lies and so far it is 3,000 since he became president.  You are not paying attention if you don't know he lies continually.  You are living in a dream if you don't know he lies.

"There's no evidence he diddled anyone under age. If I'd made such a brazen allegation, I think you'd have been all over  me quite fiercely for such an unwarranted, unsubstantiated assertion."

Exactly - if you can say Pence and Tillerson are into having sex and eating children, I can blame Trump of having sex with underage girls since he is a friend of the man who does/did that.  If you can slander people, writing their names, then I can do it, right?

"I still don't understand why you think he was a far worse candidate for the  position than Shrillery."

I have not compared the two, ever.  I talk about Trump because I know what he is.
I am a conservative and Trump is a freaking liberal but I don't care because the problem is, I firmly believe he has a serious personality disorder, based on his behavior since a child, and I hope he gets removed from office.  Then, Pence, the one you say is a child rapist, killer/eater of children, will be president.  You need to stop calling people by name, accusing them of heinous crimes.

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« Reply #743 on: May 07, 2018, 01:34:28 am »
Yes, I know those laws because they are now federal laws each state must follow. 
After the 2000 election, Bush against Gore, the Florida fiasco, the United States government wrote new election laws that every state has to follow.  Before that, the states had only their laws which could be different from state to state.  Punch cards to vote were outlawed.  Some states/counties used paper ballots and they still can but there are election laws to follow using them due to those federal laws.  I was working in the party when these new laws went into effect - Texas had to change their laws just as all other states did.

Then, the government offered money to states if they wanted electronic voting machines.  States took that money and voting machines were put into states using the laws that govern them.  I was working with the state party when all those machines were put in, just as other states did that.

@Victoria33

I find this fascinating.  Since Politics is my hobby, and we're in what is supposed to be a Representative Republic, I am keenly interested in elections.  I'm in a constant state of agitation that it's taken so unseriously, especially the part about voter responsibility.  I want people to know about what they're voting on, but there's really no way to assure that.  Knowing who is casting votes is the next best thing.  Which leads me to...

Voting fraud.  Not allowing positive, government-issued ID to vote is ludicrous...an open invitation to defraud!  There is only one motivation to insist on no ID:  The party objecting knows they'll benefit from the cheating, and that's Democrats.  I don't like mail-in balloting either.  I want things to be the way it was in the past, when you had to demonstrate a good reason to not vote in person.  Now that I just turned 60, I get an invitation from the County Recorder to apply for a mail-in ballot, and I refuse every time.  So does Mrs. Liberty.  My parents do the mail-ins, and I approve (even though they are FDR Democrat by history) because they're in their 90's, and would have qualified for absentee ballots back in the day.

Voting is a civic duty.  People should do their homework and vote for who they think is best.  Going to the polls on voting day is a solemn duty, a prideful thing.  Every time I hear somebody talk about making it easier so more people vote, it makes my skin crawl.  That doesn't make for better elections, it makes for more stupid election results.

This post rambles a bit, but I could go on all day about this.  I hate the idea that my vote can be canceled by my Democrap neighbor's dog and my wife's, by their cat.  Their goldfish are voting too, for all I know.

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Re: Q-anon; 4chan; 8chan etc. Really Cleaning Out Top of the Swamp???
« Reply #744 on: May 07, 2018, 01:51:01 am »
I have said at least once that I am too far from first hand knowledge to  know who did exactly what as an emphatic truth. We both depend on the sources we respect and believe.

And, I post a lot of sources from fringe sources and groups that would be extremely hard to verify. I've noted why I look at fringe sources--given their earliest and most accuracy about what Hitler would do and become.

I post such information--whether I personally believe in it as a little true of possibly true or an interesting conjecture or allegation or something I believe to be mostly true because I think it is important to consider the waterfront that is more or less in the  public domain. God only knows what will filter out totally true eventually.

I don't recall saying I believed this or that about  Pence. I recall noting I hoped the allegations about Pence and Tillerson were not true. You may go ahead and claim that I said Pence was guilty--but I didn't really say that.

"I can't recall any deliberate lying on his part since being sworn in."

There are groups who keep a record of his lies and so far it is 3,000 since he became president.  You are not paying attention if you don't know he lies continually.  You are living in a dream if you don't know he lies.

"There's no evidence he diddled anyone under age. If I'd made such a brazen allegation, I think you'd have been all over  me quite fiercely for such an unwarranted, unsubstantiated assertion."

Exactly - if you can say Pence and Tillerson are into having sex and eating children, I can blame Trump of having sex with underage girls since he is a friend of the man who does/did that.  If you can slander people, writing their names, then I can do it, right?

"I still don't understand why you think he was a far worse candidate for the  position than Shrillery."

I have not compared the two, ever.  I talk about Trump because I know what he is.
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« Reply #745 on: May 07, 2018, 01:58:45 am »
You are right.  I was the Judge of the Early Voting Ballot Board for ten years in my county.  It is that board that deals with mail in ballots.  I also taught how to find fraud in mail ballots and throw them out, to Early Voting Ballot Boards in numerous Texas counties.

What were the ten years you did this @Victoria33

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« Reply #746 on: May 07, 2018, 02:00:42 am »
Let me know when Trump is taken to GITMO for lying over 3,000 times since being president,

Okay.  But first you'll need to list all of your sources for POTUS lying 3,000 times @Victoria33

I dare you.

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« Reply #747 on: May 07, 2018, 02:55:29 am »
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"In 2012 and in 2016, there were MANY complaints across the country that the voting machines would record Republican votes as votes for the Democrat right before the voters' very eyes.  I don't know any further details, but it was scandalous stuff--although not reported anywhere by the national MSM."

Yes, at every election I hear of machines that screw up.  First, here is how they are put in service. Every election happens in a COUNTY (or parish).  The machines are programmed, then the Democrat Chairman and the Republican Chairmen meet in the election administrator's office and every machine is checked for counting accuracy.  Then they are locked in a room with two different locks on the door.  The Sheriff has a key and the elections administrator has one - both must be used to open the door.  On election day, the Sheriff's deputies carry the machines to the voting precinct.  The two judges, one Dem and one Rep, check the machines to be sure they are set at zero.

As an example of how voting day problems are handled/fixed: In 2008, a presidential election year, I was part of a group of 2 or 3 lawyers, me and a couple more state party officers who solved election day problems.  I was at my computer all day - Republican election judges or Republican Alternate Judges if the election judge was a Democrat, had our email address to write to us if they had a problem at their voting precinct.  We told them what to do to fix their problem.  We had two machines, one in one county, another in another county, that recorded a voter's vote wrong.  The voter sees who they voted for when they finish voting so the voter knew it was wrong.  We told them to put that machine out of service right then and have the voter vote on another machine.  That is what happens.  Now, the voter could go out and tell others their machine was wrong but that didn't mean it was still in service.  People don't hear the part when the machine was taken out of service and the voter re-voted.  The votes on the machine were correct until that voter voted.  No one screwed with that machine, it just did what it did.

One year I read on the internet that a couple of guys could make a machine register wrong.  They got a machine from a voting machine company and messed with it, changing it from what was originally on it.  They had to have the machine in their possession and put their hands on it.  So, people on the internet who read that, thought machines could be hacked at any time.  The real machines in a county are not standing around for guys to change them - they are locked up until delivered to the polling place. There is no county that is going to put their programmed machines where someone could put their hands on them.

"In the 2012 election, the Republican lady running against Harry Reid was way ahead (2 to 1?) in a vote count that flipped to favor Harry Reid by more than 2 to 1 after an hours-long power outage."

This is when the machine would be opened and the extra counting gizmo in the machine would be used for the count.  That gizmo count would not change if the power went off. 

"In 2008, Obama's ACORN was found by the FBI to be indictable for all sorts of voter registration fraud in 13 states.  The election went forward, Obama won, and the charges were dismissed."

In 2000 after the Florida fiasco, federal law was written making the Secretary of State in every state, responsible for the state voter list so people wanting to register could be checked to be sure they are qualified voters.  The counties no longer are the only record of a voter list.  If ACORN tried to register people not eligible to vote, it should have been caught and ACORN held responsible for voter fraud. It sounds like they were found out, they were caught, so good.

"In 2016, a PhD chemist highly favored to break through the Democrat wall of dominance of Austin's city politics got beaten soundly.  Serious allegations of systematic voting fraud at the central counting office were uncovered.  Computer engineers figured out the mechanism, involving programming fraud for tallying the precinct votes."

I don't know about the above one.  As I have said, the precinct totals are on a disk taken to central counting by the Judge/Alternate Judge.  Due to a state law I wrote, every county in Texas has Dems AND Reps in there.  Until I wrote that law and it passed the Texas House/Senate without a dissenting vote, a Democrat elections admin. could keep Republicans out of central counting so they wouldn't know what happened in central counting.  A Rep elections admin. could keep all the Dems out.
It sounds like that paragraph is saying the counting machine in central counting was programmed wrong intentionally.  I would have to read about that to have an opinion because what gets on the internet about voter fraud is usually wrong.

"Optical readers would have prevented this and left a paper trail in the event of a re-count.  So would absentee ballots (which are paper ballots, of course).  Speaking of paper ballots, the 2000 election was almost stolen by Al Gore and his Chicago-based Campaign Chairman (Richard Daley, Jr.), who used one of the most infamous and long-standing voting frauds in American history--Chicago's butterfly ballot fraud.  Chicago is the epicenter of American Communism, by the way, and the home of ACORN, to boot."

Optical readers read paper ballots.  Appears that paragraph means they should have used paper ballots.  Remember, voting machines have that extra count gizmo inside it.  In case of a problem, they could take out that gizmo as a check on each precinct's counts.   Again, I would need to read a reliable report of the actual happening to gauge what really happened; I would not believe a short report on the internet.

"Chicago's butterfly ballot fraud."  It is those butterfly ballots that were outlawed after 2000.

I was active in the party when we first tried to get Voter ID in Texas. I was also active when we finally got it.  It took six years, I think it was, to finally get it passed.  Part of the reason for that, is, our legislature meets every two years - not yearly.

Voter fraud in general:  Some people are crooks and they will always be with us.  They lie, cheat, steal, kill, and commit voter fraud.  Each county has to be on the alert to prevent voter fraud.  The District Attorney of the county has the responsibility to investigate voter fraud.  If anyone thinks voter fraud has happened, that person should go to the District Attorney as he/she is required by law to investigate.

How is your county?  Do you know who your Republican Chairman is?  He/she is responsible for the Republican Primary Election.  Go ask him/her how elections work in your county.  Ask him/her how voting machines, or paper ballots, are handled in your county.  You see, he/she has to know those laws so their election is fair.  They know how it works.


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Re: Q-anon; 4chan; 8chan etc. Really Cleaning Out Top of the Swamp???
« Reply #748 on: May 07, 2018, 03:53:56 am »
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Thank you much!  Now, if we can just get them to stop with the mail-ins....
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« Reply #749 on: May 07, 2018, 02:37:33 pm »
@Victoria33

Thank you much!  Now, if we can just get them to stop with the mail-ins....
@Cyber Liberty

I was working with mail in ballots when one had to have a reason for voting by mail.  In Texas, only sick people, people going to be out of town on voting day could vote by mail.

Then, Texas changed their law and those over a certain age could also vote by mail.  That is when the number of mail ballots took off to be gobs of them.  States can have different laws about mail ballots.  One state, would have to look it up as I don't remember, could be Washington state, has EVERYONE voting by mail.  I'll look that up and post if it is not Washington state.

Then, candidates started sending out mail ballot forms they printed - fill it out and send it to their county and get a mail ballot.  One election year, I got a form from a candidate, that was incorrect.  Anyone filling out that form and sending it in, would be rejected; they couldn't get a mail ballot.  I called our Secretary of State's office and told them about this incorrect/illegal form.  She called all the counties in Texas, telling them these forms were wrong and to send the voter the correct state form if these came in.