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Germany’s War on Coal Is Over. Coal Lost.
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:07:30 am »
Germany’s War on Coal Is Over. Coal Lost.
Its last mine is about to close.
AMELIA URRYDEC. 3, 2017 6:00 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/12/germanys-war-on-coal-is-over-coal-lost/


An old mine car sits as an exhibit in the former Zollverein Mine ComplexAmelia Urry/Grist

This story was originally published by Grist and appears here as part of the Climate Desk collaboration.

It’s a sunny October day on the outskirts of the west German town of Bottrop. A quiet, two-lane road leads me through farm pasture to a cluster of anonymous, low-lying buildings set among the trees. The highway hums in the distance. Looming above everything else is a green A-frame structure with four great pulley wheels to carry men and equipment into a mine shaft. It’s the only visible sign that, almost three quarters of a mile below, Germany’s last hard coal lies beneath this spot.

Bottrop sits in the Ruhr Valley, a dense stretch of towns and suburbs home to 5.5 million people. Some 500,000 miners once worked in the region’s nearly 200 mines, producing as much as 124 million tons of coal every year.

Next year, that era will come to an end when this mine closes. The Ruhr Valley is in the midst of a remarkable transformation. Coal and steel plants have fallen quiet, one by one, over the course of the last half-century. Wind turbines have sprung up among old shaft towers and coking plants as Germany strives to hit its renewable energy goals.

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Re: Germany’s War on Coal Is Over. Coal Lost.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 01:11:34 am »
2016 Data shows Germany generates 43% of their electricity from coal.

https://www.iea.org/media/countries/Germany.pdf

This is going to be expensive for them in the long run.
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Re: Germany’s War on Coal Is Over. Coal Lost.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 02:29:59 am »
Germany has been running on coal for over a century.  The temporary renewables mistake will be erased following the poor economics from it.
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Re: Germany’s War on Coal Is Over. Coal Lost.
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 02:33:56 am »
2016 Data shows Germany generates 43% of their electricity from coal.

https://www.iea.org/media/countries/Germany.pdf

This is going to be expensive for them in the long run.

They have wasted a bunch of money on solar in Spain. Wind is not working out as planned.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 02:38:23 am »
There are windmills and solar panels everywhere one goes in Germany.  They are a blight on the landscape.  Who knows whether they come close to producing the electricity the country needs.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 01:20:13 pm »
Who knows whether they come close to producing the electricity the country needs.

They do not, which is why the Germans have been forced to import electricity AND reactivate the ols lignite plants in eastern Germany built by the old communist regime and shuttered for pollution problems when the country re-united.

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Re: Germany’s War on Coal Is Over. Coal Lost.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 03:30:17 am »
Let the Germans close their mines.

We'll sell them coal and re-open ours.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 03:54:34 am »
LOL. Eff the Germans. They had to double energy prices to the consumer to pay for all these green subsidies. They shut down their nuke plants after the Fukushima hiccup. Now they are at the mercy of their neighbors to make up for shortfalls of their windmills. When the windmills overproduce, they actually are paying neighboring countries to take it off their grids. It's a socialist shitshow.