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Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« on: November 17, 2017, 12:17:24 am »
Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
By Alexander Bolton - 11/16/17 07:05 PM EST

The Alabama Republican Party is shrugging off pressure from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to disqualify Roy Moore as its nominee for Senate.

Members of the state party’s executive committee met in person and by phone Wednesday to discuss the Alabama Senate race, according to sources familiar with the call, but made no move to strip Moore of the nomination.

That leaves McConnell without a clear way to block Moore from winning a Dec. 12 special election without jeopardizing Republican control of the seat and diminishing his Senate majority by one vote. 

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2017, 12:22:54 am »
And that is all the support Moore needs to stay in the race and be viable.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2017, 12:25:08 am »
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And that is all the support Moore needs to stay in the race and be viable.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2017, 12:25:16 am »
Don’t think for a moment this is based in principle.  Political groups don’t do anything without a poll or focus group behind it.  One way or another, they received feedback the possibility of having the SoS declare the election null detrimental to their fundraising and existence.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2017, 01:46:05 am »
Could jes' be one mo' case o' dem backwerds Alabamans tellin' the Northerners to shove it...

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2017, 02:04:42 am »
Could jes' be one mo' case o' dem backwerds Alabamans tellin' the Northerners to shove it...

 888high58888 Take your McConel and shove.. ain't workin' here no more.
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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2017, 02:05:36 am »
McConnell is a Northerner? Oh well, I don't doubt it with some of the revisionist history I have read here.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2017, 02:06:58 am »
Let's wait until another poll comes out. The last one was rather negative, down double-digits. If this holds up, that'll be pretty bad.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2017, 02:13:47 am »
What a load of toss, the Northeastern elite is doing this, oh yeah, New England is a Republican stronghold, oh yeah, Mitt Romney is really a Northeasterner and controls the party and the Bushes? They have origins, 90 years ago I suppose. Pretty malicious stuff to say if it is not backed up.

You know what they say; the internet is an excuse to slander... something I hope I can stay away from.
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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2017, 02:37:00 am »
McConnell is a Northerner? Oh well, I don't doubt it with some of the revisionist history I have read here.


Point of order.  Kentucky fought on the side of the North to defeat the South.   I guess McConnell does indeed represent them appropriately.   
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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2017, 02:39:49 am »

Point of order.  Kentucky fought on the side of the North to defeat the South.   I guess McConnell does indeed represent them appropriately.

Are you saying Kentucky did not contribute to the South's forces? You are really saying that?  Shows what a joke your revisionist neo-Confederate garbage history is. I don't know if I need to even list one source, it is so absurd.

And besides Kentucky being called a border state.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2017, 02:42:26 am »
Besides many Confederate statues in KY.
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Main article: Kentucky in the American Civil War

This is a list of Kentucky Confederate Civil War Confederate units. The list of Kentucky Union Civil War units is shown separately.

Contents

    1 Infantry
    2 Cavalry
        2.1 Mounted Rifles
        2.2 Mounted Infantry
        2.3 Partisan Rangers
    3 Artillery
        3.1 Horse Artillery
        3.2 Artillery
    4 Brigades
    5 See also

Infantry

    1st Infantry Regiment
    2nd Infantry Regiment
    3rd Infantry Regiment
    4th Infantry Regiment
    5th Infantry Regiment
    6th Infantry Regiment
    7th Infantry Regiment
    8th Infantry Regiment
    9th Infantry Regiment (Hunt's 5th Infantry Regiment)
    1st (Taylor's) Infantry Battalion
    Duncan's (Desha's) Infantry Battalion
    Ficklin's Battalion, Infantry
    Kirkpatrick's Battalion
    White's Infantry Battalion
    Corbin's (Captain) Men

Cavalry

    1st Cavalry Regiment (1st (3rd) Cavalry)
    2nd (Duke's) Cavalry Regiment
    2nd (Woodward's) Cavalry Regiment
    3rd (Butler's) Cavalry Regiment
    3rd (Tucker's) Cavalry Regiment
    3rd & 7th (Consolidated) Cavalry
    4th Cavalry Regiment
    5th Cavalry Regiment
    6th Cavalry Regiment
    7th Cavalry Regiment ("3rd Cavalry Regiment")
    8th Cavalry Regiment
    8th and 12th (Consolidated) Cavalry
    9th Cavalry Regiment ("4th Mounted Rifles Regiment")
    10th Cavalry Regiment, Partisan ("10th Cavalry Regiment")
    10th (Diamond's) Cavalry Regiment
    10th (Johnson's) Cavalry Regiment
    10th Cavalry Regiment
    11th Cavalry Regiment ("7th (Chenault's) Cavalry Regiment")
    11th (Hollis') Cavalry Regiment
    12th Cavalry Regiment ("1st Kentucky and Tennessee Mounted Rifles")
    13th Cavalry Regiment ("10th Mounted Rifles," "10th Infantry Regiment," "10th Cavalry Battalion," "10th Mounted Rifles," "11th Mounted Rifles," or "11th Mounted Infantry Regiment")
    13th (Sypert's) Cavalry Regiment
    14th Cavalry Regiment ("10th (May's) Cavalry Regiment")
    14th (Richard C. Morgan's) Cavalry Regiment
    15th Cavalry Regiment ("2nd (Woodward's) Cavalry Regiment")
    16th (Chenowith's) Cavalry Regiment
    1st Cavalry Battalion
    1st (King's) Cavalry Battalion
    1st Special Cavalry Battalion
    2nd Cavalry Battalion
    2nd Special Cavalry Battalion
    3rd Cavalry Battalion - failed to complete organization
    3rd Special Cavalry Battalion
    4th Special Cavalry Battalion
    9th (Breckinridge's) Cavalry Battalion
    Stoner's Cavalry Battalion
    Buckner Guards, Cavalry
    Morgan's Cavalry Squadron
    Bolen's (Captain) Independent Company, Cavalry
    Dudley's (Captain) Independent Cavalry
    Jenkins' (Captain) Company, Cavalry

Mounted Rifles

    1st Cavalry Battalion, Mounted Rifles
    2nd Cavalry Battalion, Mounted Rifles
    2nd Cavalry, Mounted Infantry
    3rd Cavalry Battalion, Mounted Rifles ("1st Kentucky Mounted Rifles")
    3rd Cavalry Battalion, Mounted Rifles ("Jessee's")
    Caudill's Army
    May's Cavalry Battalion, Mounted Rifles
    Morris' Cavalry Regiment, Mounted Rifles

Mounted Infantry

    3rd Mounted Infantry
    4th Mounted Infantry
    5th Mounted Infantry
    6th Mounted Infantry
    7th Mounted Infantry
    8th Mounted Infantry
    9th Mounted Infantry

Partisan Rangers

    Morehead's Regiment (Partisan Rangers)
    Patton's Cavalry Battalion, Partisan Rangers
    Field's (Captain) Company (Partisan Rangers)
    Rowan's (Captain) Company (Partisan Rangers)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kentucky_Confederate_Civil_War_units

Same for Missouri, birthplace of the James Brothers, oh yeah, let's call them Yankees, same for Maryland.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2017, 02:59:04 am »
Let's wait until another poll comes out. The last one was rather negative, down double-digits. If this holds up, that'll be pretty bad.

Fox News has him losing by 8.  In Ala freaking Bama.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2017, 03:13:54 am »
Are you saying Kentucky did not contribute to the South's forces? You are really saying that?  Shows what a joke your revisionist neo-Confederate garbage history is. I don't know if I need to even list one source, it is so absurd.

And besides Kentucky being called a border state.


I was actually seeing if I could get a rise out of any Kentuckians.   :)   Sometimes I can't resist a good troll.   Maryland was also officially a "Union" state,  but their sympathies did lie with the South.   One of the first things Lincoln did was to move forces into Kentucky to make sure they stayed in the Union.   He said words to the effect " I think to lose Kentucky is nearly the same as to lose the whole game."   

Missouri was also officially Union,  but Quasi Southern.   
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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2017, 03:15:15 am »
Besides many Confederate statues in KY.
Same for Missouri, birthplace of the James Brothers, oh yeah, let's call them Yankees, same for Maryland.


I was just messin with you bro.  I said somewhat the same thing in my previous response. 
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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2017, 03:16:25 am »

I was actually seeing if I could get a rise out of any Kentuckians.   :)   Sometimes I can't resist a good troll.   Maryland was also officially a "Union" state,  but their sympathies did lie with the South.   One of the first things Lincoln did was to move forces into Kentucky to make sure they stayed in the Union.   He said words to the effect " I think to lose Kentucky is nearly the same as to lose the whole game."   

Missouri was also officially Union,  but Quasi Southern.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2017, 03:19:16 am »
Fox News has him losing by 8.  In Ala freaking Bama.


I stopped believing in the accuracy of Polls a month before the Last year election.   Beyond that,  I think Moore is pushing back now,  and I doubt they can throw much more at him. 


They might find a few more women to claim he kissed them or harassed them or something,  but I think unless it's something spectacular,  people are simply going to dismiss it as relatively unimportant compared to what happens if the seat goes to the baby murdering Democrat.   

Moore can likely only go up from here.   I think he is going to win. 
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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2017, 03:19:20 am »
Fox News has him losing by 8.  In Ala freaking Bama.

I don’t doubt the story has hurt his numbers, but it has been beaten into the ground nationally, so you know Alabamans are weary of it.  The most common response pollsters probably receive there at this point is ESAD.

Besides, the Fox poll is 50-42, which leaves 8 on the table, with a MOE of 3.5, so it may not be as bad as it sounds.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 03:28:58 am by edpc »
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Alabama GOP rebuffs pressure to abandon Roy Moore
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2017, 03:30:01 am »
I don’t doubt the story has hurt his numbers, but it has been beaten into the ground nationally, so you know Alabamans are weary of it.  The most common response pollsters probably receive there at this point is ESAD.

Maybe, but we had some indication he would be a weak candidate before any of this started.  He only won his last judicial race by 3.5% on a partisan ballot.