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Offline TomSea

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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #75 on: November 22, 2017, 02:55:21 am »
Most coverage of what Trump said today don't seem to phrase it the way Zero Hedge does.  Trump basically said the way it was. I am not sure if Trump is standing by Moore. I'm not going to bring up other articles on this but they are out there.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2017, 02:59:34 am »
Quote from: EasyAce on November 22, 2017, 02:51:25 am
Didn't his other pastor friend say something like you'd be amazed how many fourteen-year-olds look twenty?

You may be referring to this.......

http://theweek.com/speedreads/738842/alabama-pastor-defends-roy-moore-by-saying-some-14yearolds--could-pass-20
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2017, 03:11:09 am »
Quote from: edpc on November 22, 2017, 02:59:34 am
You may be referring to this.......

http://theweek.com/speedreads/738842/alabama-pastor-defends-roy-moore-by-saying-some-14yearolds--could-pass-20
That's the one. I thought Moore and that pastor were friends, but maybe not . . .
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2017, 03:57:04 am »
Quote from: libertybele on November 21, 2017, 11:14:26 pm
Good.  I'm glad to see someone from the GOP standing by him; obviously Trump must have reason to believe him...or he realizes how exactly Mitch McConnell maneuvers.

I think Trump is right on this.

It's a dangerous precedent to let last minute trumped up charges deprive a guy from a Senate seat he has won fairly.  Well, he was on pace to win it fairly.

The dems are particularly vulnerable on this as there are so many dem predators.

The charges were old, weird and totally unproven.

I'm glad President Trump is not caving to pressure here.

Kudos to him.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2017, 04:03:43 am »
Quote from: Emjay on November 22, 2017, 03:57:04 am

It's a dangerous precedent to let last minute trumped up charges deprive a guy from a Senate seat he has won fairly.  Well, he was on pace to win it fairly.

Well, here’s the problem:  Your average Roy Moore voter is, at best, suspicious of the media.  If the story is causing so many problems for him, they’re either spineless dupes or they have reason to think there may be something wrong with Moore.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2017, 04:23:10 am »
Quote from: edpc on November 22, 2017, 04:03:43 am
Well, here’s the problem:  Your average Roy Moore voter is, at best, suspicious of the media.  If the story is causing so many problems for him, they’re either spineless dupes or they have reason to think there may be something wrong with Moore.

Well, duh, I'm suspicious of the media.  You're not?

And it's not causing as many problems for Moore as you hope or think.  Most people on Facebook support him.

And implying that an entire state is populated by ignorant hicks is neither true nor kind, unless, of course, you're referring to California.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2017, 04:27:27 am »
Quote from: Emjay on November 22, 2017, 04:23:10 am
Well, duh, I'm suspicious of the media.  You're not?

And it's not causing as many problems for Moore as you hope or think.  Most people on Facebook support him.

And implying that an entire state is populated by ignorant hicks is neither true nor kind, unless, of course, you're referring to California.

You have an amazing knack for missing the point, which is - if they don't believe the reports, why have his numbers suffered?
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2017, 04:34:27 am »
I do not think Trump is right on this.
When he remarked, let Alabama decide, he was right.
Either standing by or denouncing him was a bad political move with no upside.
Walking away and doing neither, and leaving it up to the voters of Alabama was his best option.
He just couldn't hold to it, for some reason.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2017, 04:44:17 am »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on November 22, 2017, 04:34:27 am
I do not think Trump is right on this.
When he remarked, let Alabama decide, he was right.
Either standing by or denouncing him was a bad political move with no upside.
Walking away and doing neither, and leaving it up to the voters of Alabama was his best option.
He just couldn't hold to it, for some reason.

You can't rely on him in any sense.

We have to be loyal in life,” Trump said. “There is something called loyalty, and I might have made a mistake and I’ll be honest, I might have made a mistake.”

Trump appeared in Alabama for a campaign rally for Strange, despite polling showing him still lagging behind his primary challenger conservative Judge Roy Moore.

Trump predicted that if Strange lost, his political opponents and the media would cite it as a big loss for Trump, but that he wanted to repay the appointed senator for his loyal support in the Senate.

“Both are good men,” Trump said, referring to Strange and Moore.

He specified that his decision was about loyalty and picking a candidate that could win in a general election.

So, basically, he endorsed Strange, but really didn't, might have made a mistake, because they're both good men, but it's up to Alabama, but we don't need a liberal. 

Dizzy yet?

Trump is a political weather vane that shifts easily and rarely gets called out on his bullshit by people who should know better.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2017, 05:06:28 am »
Quote from: edpc on November 22, 2017, 04:44:17 am
You can't rely on him in any sense.

We have to be loyal in life,” Trump said. “There is something called loyalty, and I might have made a mistake and I’ll be honest, I might have made a mistake.”

Trump appeared in Alabama for a campaign rally for Strange, despite polling showing him still lagging behind his primary challenger conservative Judge Roy Moore.

Trump predicted that if Strange lost, his political opponents and the media would cite it as a big loss for Trump, but that he wanted to repay the appointed senator for his loyal support in the Senate.

“Both are good men,” Trump said, referring to Strange and Moore.

He specified that his decision was about loyalty and picking a candidate that could win in a general election.

So, basically, he endorsed Strange, but really didn't, might have made a mistake, because they're both good men, but it's up to Alabama, but we don't need a liberal. 

Dizzy yet?

Trump is a political weather vane that shifts easily and rarely gets called out on his bullshit by people who should know better.

Trump is for what makes Trump look good, which is why he should have let this one go. He looks bad by supporting Moore and he looks bad by not supporting Moore.
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2017, 05:38:12 am »
Quote from: Emjay on November 22, 2017, 04:23:10 am

And implying that an entire state is populated by ignorant hicks is neither true nor kind, unless, of course, you're referring to California.

Right here on this site, a member called Alabama voters "gap-toothed hicks," only days ago.



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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #86 on: November 22, 2017, 05:46:50 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on November 22, 2017, 05:38:12 am
Right here on this site, a member called Alabama voters "gap-toothed hicks," only days ago.


   That was a very poor characterization of the Great people of Alabama @truth_seeker and that guy has since been banned, again.
   I trust these folks to do the right thing, it is THEIR Senator, after all. Unfortunately it boils down to the lessor of two evils for them.
   As our President so frequently tweets,  SAD!
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Re: Trump Is Standing By Roy Moore: "We Don't Need A Liberal Democrat In That Seat"
« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2017, 02:49:30 pm »
We don't need a Communist (aka democrat) in ANY Senate seat ever again IMHO!
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