'Mass shooting' reported at Sutherland Springs church in Texas

[bigheadfred]

It could be real... or it could be a psy-op Facebook page created for this purpose.

Anything is possible.

FBI was there fast.  FB page taken down in an hour. Got some good screenshots  of it to spread around before "we" knew who he was.

[mountaineer]

The shooting probably was caught on camera, as the church regularly recorded Sunday services and posted them, according to KSAT

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Stop gun violence. Confiscate guns from democrats.

No. Confiscate elected office from Democrats.

If they want to claim they're too stupid - the only defense they could possibly advance - for not knowing that This was what they've been cultivating/stirring up for losing - fair and square - an election, ever since Trump beat Hillary, that alone should disqualify the current crop of them from ever holding office again.

[txradioguy]

He may have had these guns before he was kicked out of the USAF

That's assuming he got the weapons legally to begin with.

Usually someone with a DD on their record aren't too concerned with the legality of most things...including obtaining weapons.

[Bigun]

That's assuming he got the weapons legally to begin with.

Usually someone with a DD on their record aren't too concerned with the legality of most things...including obtaining weapons.

@txradioguy

Any chance you might find anything about his court-martial?

[Ghost Bear]

   Living in the immediate geographical area where they are currently claiming he's from. He is in neither of my immediate County Jail databases, Comal, Guadalupe (New Braunfels, Seguin).

   I'd bet he's a Bexar County, Sanctuary City, (San Antonio) transplant.

I've heard on news reports, and I think it was said at the press conference, that he lived in Comal County. Wouldn't be unusual for a former Air Force member to settle in the area.

[mystery-ak]

@txradioguy

Any chance you might find anything about his court-martial?

Those records are sealed....

[Bigun]

Those records are sealed....

Yeah but there might have been news reports with info in them.

[corbe]

I've heard on news reports, and I think it was said at the press conference, that he lived in Comal County. Wouldn't be unusual for a former Air Force member to settle in the area.

   Many, Many Vets here, the databases indicate he hasn't been arrested here in Comal (by given name), which to me means he doesn't live here, regular german gestapo here in Comal County, TX,  want me to send ya my Mug Shots?

http://public.co.comal.tx.us/default.aspx

    Good luck finding me, I was dressed as a man the both times they incarcerated me.

[austingirl]

FBI was there fast.  FB page taken down in an hour. Got some good screenshots  of it to spread around before "we" knew who he was.

Can you post them?

[XenaLee]

Fox report says its a town of about 400.

So this is in Everybody living there's life.

They All know or have family and/or friends who were killed or injured.

Prayers for everyone, EXCEPT, the Democrat Party In Toto who I'm personally blaming for this because of their never ending S^^t Raking Lies designed to stir up idiots like this shooter, BLM, Antifa, etc. and push them over the edge.

Quite deliberately stirring them up.... all to further their leftist (anti-gun ownership) agenda. 

God help the families of the dead and wounded.... and God help us all for what we are facing in this nation now.

[Frank Cannon]

This will screw up the Lefts meme along with the shooter being one of them....

Texas Rangers: Armed Citizen ‘Engaged’ Killer, Ending Rampage

https://news.grabien.com/story-texas-dept-public-safety-armed-citizen-engaged-killer-ending

[bigheadfred]

Can you post them?

I didn't mean I had screenshots.

[Ghost Bear]

   Many, Many Vets here, the databases indicate he hasn't been arrested here in Comal (by given name), which to me means he doesn't live here, regular german gestapo here in Comal County, TX,  want me to send ya my Mug Shots?

http://public.co.comal.tx.us/default.aspx

    Good luck finding me, I was dressed as a man the both times they incarcerated me.

Eh, I live in Williamson Co., which has it's own reputation for strict criminal enforcement...   

[austingirl]

@bigheadfred

I don't have the computer skills to post this but there is major mischief on the FB page of the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs. hundreds of likes from muslim names on posts from 9-17 and 10-1. The website usually gets two likes on a post. This is horrible. Someone might have spammed this to point the finger at muslims. Absolutely despicable. This congregation and town are suffering terribly.

Are the screenshots on /pol/?

[240B]

It is more than bizarre the Liberals/Progressive/Communists would claim that 'criminals', straight up criminal terrorists, would be worried about a 'Law' that would stop them.


We all know that Democrats/Liberals are insane, but this idea or 'rally point' that criminals would be worried about 'breaking the law', really is one of the more obvious clues to their Liberal mental disability.


If they want a gun, they will get one. And no stupid 'law' is going to stop them.

[bigheadfred]

@bigheadfred

I don't have the computer skills to post this but there is major mischief on the FB page of the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs. hundreds of likes from muslim names on posts from 9-17 and 10-1. The website usually gets two likes on a post. This is horrible. Someone might have spammed this to point the finger at muslims. Absolutely despicable. This congregation and town are suffering terribly.

Are the screenshots on /pol/?

I can do that.

What I meant is there seems to be info out there about his FB page even though it was taken down shortly after the shooting.

Click image to enlarge it.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

This will screw up the Lefts meme along with the shooter being one of them....

Texas Rangers: Armed Citizen ‘Engaged’ Killer, Ending Rampage

https://news.grabien.com/story-texas-dept-public-safety-armed-citizen-engaged-killer-ending

It's not just the DD prohibition on owning guns.

from your link Frank;

He was dressed in all black, tactical type gear and was wearing a ballistic vest."

Body Armor used in the commission of a Crime of Violence is almost always a crime in itself, on top of the weapons offenses, and murder/manslaughter charges.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/when-its-illegal-to-own-a-bullet-proof-vest

So all of those Gun Free/Violence Free Statutes the left keeps shoving down everyone's throats, FAIL, on yet one more count.

[austingirl]

@bigheadfred

I don't have the computer skills to post this but there is major mischief on the FB page of the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs. hundreds of likes from muslim names on posts from 9-17 and 10-1. The website usually gets two likes on a post. This is horrible. Someone might have spammed this to point the finger at muslims. Absolutely despicable. This congregation and town are suffering terribly.

Are the screenshots on /pol/?

Looks like these FB likes by muslims on the church website go back to at least August. Is there anyway to tell the date the like was done? If today, I would say it's a hoax, if these posts are from August, Sept, and Oct., it may be another story.

[endicom]

Same guy? http://jail.com/arrest-records/devin-patrick-kelly-5433445

https://everipedia.org/wiki/devin-kelley-1/

From his Facebook page a creepy picture of, I guess, a mother kissing her baby: https://libertywriters.com/2017/11/texas-shooter-identified-media-doesnt-want-see-devin-kelly/

[mystery-ak]

https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/
Devin Kelley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

David Begnaud
✔
@DavidBegnaud

TX Church Shooting
4 kids from 1 family shot:
5yo boy shot 4xs, now in surgery
5yo girl
7yo girl shot & in surgery
8yo hid under a pew

[Sanguine]

@Freya
You are a blessing to everyone here, you have a kind spirit.

I want to second that!

[KingsX]

Looks like these FB likes by muslims on the church website go back to at least August. Is there anyway to tell the date the like was done? If today, I would say it's a hoax, if these posts are from August, Sept, and Oct., it may be another story.

What exactly are muslims "liking" on the church's fb page ??
Is it anything specific ??

[jmyrlefuller]

https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/
Devin Kelley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

David Begnaud
✔
@DavidBegnaud

TX Church Shooting
4 kids from 1 family shot:
5yo boy shot 4xs, now in surgery
5yo girl
7yo girl shot & in surgery
8yo hid under a pew

Children, scarred for life.

[Fishrrman]

TXradioguy wrote:
"Antifa connection in 3...2..."

A couple of links (take them for what they're worth:
http://yournewswire.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/11/05/texas-church-shooter-identified-devin-patrick-kelly-26-from-new-braunfels-a-suburb-of-san-antonio/

I didn't see anything at the above two links that indicated any association with islam, or that the shooter was a muslim convert.

I'm not discounting the possibility of that. We'll know soon.

IF that turns out to be true -- if he's both a convert to islam -and- an "antifadan", expect to see this story dropped by the media quickly.

Also, he had a dishonorable discharge from the military.
Does a "dd" count the same as a felony conviction, insofar as a background check goes for the purchase of firearms?
If so, the AR-15 he owned, he DID NOT own "legally".

This massacre WAS NOT committed with "legally-owned" firearms.