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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-04-13/trump-just-hired-his-next-scandal-lobbyist-paul-manafort

Flashback on Manafort: @EliLake in April 2016

Trump Just Hired His Next Scandal
His convention strategy is in the hands of a former lobbyist who's been linked to one corruption scheme after another.

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In before Paul Manafort flips and gives up everything he knows about the Podestas, Clintons, and Uranium One
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-04-13/trump-just-hired-his-next-scandal-lobbyist-paul-manafort

Flashback on Manafort: @EliLake in April 2016

Trump Just Hired His Next Scandal
His convention strategy is in the hands of a former lobbyist who's been linked to one corruption scheme after another.


Deep State made Trump hire Manafort.
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You're being optimistic - that assumes that Trump survives this and is re-elected.  I think he should survive it, but I'm not at all...um, sanguine about his chances.

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Conspiracy against the United States has no meaning, as it relates to collusion, but that’s the only thing anyone will see and interpret.

https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us
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I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Conspiracy against the United States has no meaning, as it relates to collusion, but that’s the only thing anyone will see and interpret.

https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

Thanks for the link.  They're not reporting "to defraud the United States", they're reporting "conspiracy against the United States"

Here's the indictment.... https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

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You're being optimistic - that assumes that Trump survives this and is re-elected.  I think he should survive it, but I'm not at all...um, sanguine about his chances.

Nah .. too early to worry about this.  I suspect the creeping rage I'm feeling this morning is not limited to me. 

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357783-trump-to-lunch-with-sessions-amid-manafort-charges
Trump to lunch with Sessions amid Manafort charges

Uranium One and GPS better be on the menu.  I'd like to see a dueling special council, one where Muller has to raise his hand and promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help him God.


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I just heard Rick Gates history with the Trump campaign, and he stayed on after Manafort left, and was still in the campaign after Trump was elected, kept working for some time after the election.  I would bet he is the one who will be squeezed for whatever he knows.

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/29/fbis-focus-on-manafort-doesnt-have-anything-to-do-with-russian-collusion-in-the-election/

FBI’s Focus On Manafort Doesn’t Have Anything To Do With Russian Collusion In The Election

A GIANT nothing burger!  HAD to get uranium one off the leads!
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Thanks for the link.  They're not reporting "to defraud the United States", they're reporting "conspiracy against the United States"

Here's the indictment....


It’s the same thing, they are just being crafty with the wording to give the impression it has something to do with collusion.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371
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It’s the same thing, they are just being crafty with the wording to give the impression it has something to do with collusion.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

THAT'S the one that should put The entire Obama administration away for a LONG time!
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Paul Manafort worked with John Podesta, as Hillary Clinton campaign chairman. The wire transfers were from 2012.
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It’s the same thing, they are just being crafty with the wording to give the impression it has something to do with collusion.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

I know .. but "conspiracy to defraud" sounds too benign .. "conspiracy against" is where the spin is. 

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Trad American Angel‏ @RightWingAngel 22m22 minutes ago

Paul Manafort worked with John Podesta, as Hillary Clinton campaign chairman. The wire transfers were from 2012.

Oh, wow.

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Oh, wow.

All the individual counts are from between 2008 and 2012. I'm fairly certain Trump was no where in the picture at that time. But Podesta sure was.

Mueller cannot personally afford to not be very, very focused with this investigation.
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Manafort always reminded me of some cheap low-level crook from Goodfellas.

Manafort, Atwater, Stone- the NYC based 'Deep State' before it had a name.


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Developing from AP
Court papers: Former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents in Mueller probe
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Thanks for the link.  They're not reporting "to defraud the United States", they're reporting "conspiracy against the United States"

Here's the indictment.... https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

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Link does not go to the actual indictment.
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Developing from AP
Court papers: Former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents in Mueller probe
Oct 30, 2017

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