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Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) has never exactly been in lockstep with the GOP establishment during his time on Capitol Hill. And his latest comments are unlikely to endear him to those in the mainstream wing of the party.


Speaking with conservative pundit Jonah Goldberg on The Remnant podcast (in remarks transcribed via The Hill), Sasse discussed the state of the GOP in the context of the Alabama Senate race — in which highly controversial conservative candidate Roy Moore defeated mainstream incumbent Luther Strange in the Republican primary.


Read More: https://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-sen-ben-sasse-blasts-roy-moore-condemns-white-backlash-grievance-on-the-right/
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Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) has never exactly been in lockstep with the GOP establishment during his time on Capitol Hill. And his latest comments are unlikely to endear him to those in the mainstream wing of the party.


Speaking with conservative pundit Jonah Goldberg on The Remnant podcast (in remarks transcribed via The Hill), Sasse discussed the state of the GOP in the context of the Alabama Senate race — in which highly controversial conservative candidate Roy Moore defeated mainstream incumbent Luther Strange in the Republican primary.


Read More: https://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-sen-ben-sasse-blasts-roy-moore-condemns-white-backlash-grievance-on-the-right/

Thank you. For clarification of my understanding.

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Thank you. For clarification of my understanding.

Ben Sasse died with me tonight.

It is becoming quite apparent that Ben Sasse is not what he represented himself to be in order to get himself elected.
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Chalk another up as succumbing to the DeeCee swamp disease.
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It is becoming quite apparent that Ben Sasse is not what he represented himself to be in order to get himself elected.


Nope, another McCain/Flake slime-ball.... it seems
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Sasse gettin' sassy.

Primary him next time around.

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Thank you. For clarification of my understanding.

Ben Sasse died with me tonight.
So this was ok with you already?

Sen. Ben Sasse asks if President Trump is 'recanting' his oath of office

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/12/sen-ben-sasse-asks-if-president-trump-recanting-his-oath-office/757182001/
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So let me get this straight: he opposes Roy Moore specifically because Moore is on record wanting to ignore Article VI of the Constitution, and now people want to throw him under the bus?

I'm sorry, but I'm giving Sen. Sasse a pass on this one.
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Can someone tell me who this Ben is and what he has done in his life to be noteworthy?
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So let me get this straight: he opposes Roy Moore specifically because Moore is on record wanting to ignore Article VI of the Constitution, and now people want to throw him under the bus?

I'm sorry, but I'm giving Sen. Sasse a pass on this one.
Roy Moore laid out a convincing argument in his editorial that the principals of the Koran are incompatible with the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence, our foundational documents.

You say Moore is ignoring Article VI.  That is not within the mentioned article written by him.  He never claimed that a religious test be made as prohibited in Article VI.

What he did say was that Congress not seat him.  His stated oath to uphold our Constitution was made on a Koran which specifically rejects areas of our Constitution.

In other words, he is either going to avoid being faithful to his faith or being faithful to our country.  He cannot do both.

Moore is actually asking Congress to enforce Article VI, not ignore a part of it.  The part being enforced is related to the oath of office and is in bold.  You are focusing on the latter part only

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Do you have some other record of Moore other than this article which states he actually says what you say he says?
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So let me get this straight: he opposes Roy Moore specifically because Moore is on record wanting to ignore Article VI of the Constitution, and now people want to throw him under the bus?

I'm sorry, but I'm giving Sen. Sasse a pass on this one.
What part of Article IV? This one?
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So this was ok with you already?

Sen. Ben Sasse asks if President Trump is 'recanting' his oath of office

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/12/sen-ben-sasse-asks-if-president-trump-recanting-his-oath-office/757182001/

Oh my, you are so correct.....now I have the vapors.....where oh where is my fainting couch?  Sasse.. you fool , get off of it.

Let me get your point correct, if the democrat press started calling for all blacks to be hung... you and Sasse would be fine with that? Correct?

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Can someone tell me who this Ben is and what he has done in his life to be noteworthy?

Well, he did crack corn... er nope that was Jimmy....my bad.
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Roy Moore laid out a convincing argument in his editorial that the principals of the Koran are incompatible with the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence, our foundational documents.

You say Moore is ignoring Article VI.  That is not within the mentioned article written by him.  He never claimed that a religious test be made as prohibited in Article VI.

What he did say was that Congress not seat him.  His stated oath to uphold our Constitution was made on a Koran which specifically rejects areas of our Constitution.

In other words, he is either going to avoid being faithful to his faith or being faithful to our country.  He cannot do both.

Moore is actually asking Congress to enforce Article VI, not ignore a part of it.  The part being enforced is related to the oath of office and is in bold.  You are focusing on the latter part only

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Do you have some other record of Moore other than this article which states he actually says what you say he says?

GREAT post and absolutely on target!
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Sasse gettin' sassy.

Primary him next time around.

Sean Hannity pushed hard for Ben Sasse during Sasse’s campaign but has since apologized to his audience for the mistake. Sean admitted he was suckered in by Sasse’s posturing to get voters to believe he was a model conservative.

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Sasse gettin' sassy.

Primary him next time around.


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Sean Hannity pushed hard for Ben Sasse during Sasse’s campaign but has since apologized to his audience for the mistake. Sean admitted he was suckered in by Sasse’s posturing to get voters to believe he was a model conservative.

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I liked Sasse's comeback: "Sorry, Sean. you're the one who's changed.  Some of us still believe in the Constitution."

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Sasse's Heritage Action scorecard is 94%---the same as Ted Cruz and Dave Brat.  But here we go again...he says one thing that ignites the outrage and we're going to throw him out.

Yeah, no.

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Republicans lose often because of this "abandoning" of politicians...

I don't know if Mourdock, Christine O'Donnel, Todd Akin all went too far in what they said; but it has been pointed out, the Democrats often don't throw their candidates under the bus for some perceived outrage.

Also, I value honesty, even if sometimes, I will hear so and so says something I disagree with.


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Roy Moore laid out a convincing argument in his editorial that the principals of the Koran are incompatible with the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence, our foundational documents.

You say Moore is ignoring Article VI.  That is not within the mentioned article written by him.  He never claimed that a religious test be made as prohibited in Article VI.

What he did say was that Congress not seat him.  His stated oath to uphold our Constitution was made on a Koran which specifically rejects areas of our Constitution.

In other words, he is either going to avoid being faithful to his faith or being faithful to our country.  He cannot do both.

Moore is actually asking Congress to enforce Article VI, not ignore a part of it.  The part being enforced is related to the oath of office and is in bold.  You are focusing on the latter part only

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Do you have some other record of Moore other than this article which states he actually says what you say he says?

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Sasse's Heritage Action scorecard is 94%---the same as Ted Cruz and Dave Brat.  But here we go again...he says one thing that ignites the outrage and we're going to throw him out.

Yeah, no.

Well, apparently some of us are.  I don't like what he said and I don't want a Muslim to have any political office in the United States.

I would prefer that we didn't have any Muslims in the country period.

I don't know what that makes me but it's the way I feel.
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Well, apparently some of us are.  I don't like what he said and I don't want a Muslim to have any political office in the United States.

I would prefer that we didn't have any Muslims in the country period.

I don't know what that makes me but it's the way I feel.

@Emjay

Well, I feel the same way you do about that, but not being a leftist, my feelings are not the be-all and end-all of it.  The Constitution is the law, and we better amend it if we don't like what it says.

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Sasse's Heritage Action scorecard is 94%---the same as Ted Cruz and Dave Brat.  But here we go again...he says one thing that ignites the outrage and we're going to throw him out.

Yeah, no.

I'm sure Roy Moore if elected, will rack up a good "Heritage Action" scorecard. I'm not sure though, if this proves he is ideal.

It is good if that is how these politicians think and that these are principles that they stand for but it's not an end-all.



Stands up for freedom of religion, check.
Advocates the right to bear arms, check.
Is for border security, check.
Wants tax and healthcare reforum, double-check.

And so on.
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I wonder how many people actually read this article to read what Ben said before deciding they want nothing to do with him.

From the few things in the article, what is false?

"White backlash"? Well, as much as I dislike that terminology, I'd say it's accurate.

I really wish ace conservative Mo Brooks would have won. One can look him up and he's pretty solid, I think and that is whom I would have vote in that first election.


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@Emjay

Well, I feel the same way you do about that, but not being a leftist, my feelings are not the be-all and end-all of it.  The Constitution is the law, and we better amend it if we don't like what it says.

I don't believe the Constitutions says we can't have opinions.

  Somebody's gonna have to prove to me that Islam is a religion and not a cult.
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