Not so isolated: North Korea’s elite uses Gmail, Facebook and iTunes

[DemolitionMan]

By Craig Timberg and Ellen Nakashima

Western researchers recently began sifting through troves of North Korean Internet data, looking for activity related to missile launches or malicious cyber activity within the famously isolated country.

What they found instead surprised them.

North Korea’s tiny circle of elite families — among the few people in the country with unfettered access to the Internet — turned out to be strikingly like the rest of the world in their digital habits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/not-so-isolated-north-koreas-elite-uses-gmail-facebook-and-itunes/2017/07/24/c79255c0-7081-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.6ee1f4b35019

[stephen50right]

The elite in dictatorships always live like kings and queens, we all know that.

Another useless Washington Post story.

[DemolitionMan]

The elite in dictatorships always live like kings and queens, we all know that.

Another useless Washington Post story.

You should not dismiss the story.Classical Communism is a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. North Korean communists did not accept Marxism, because it was based on European capitalist experiences, and Leninism, which was based on Russia's experience, they conceived of Juche.Unlike Marxism–Leninism, which considers material forces to be the driving force of historical progress (known as historical materialism).Kim Il-sung (1912–1994) developed the ideology, originally viewed as a variant of Marxism–Leninism until it became distinctly "Korean" in character. Juche in North Korea considers human beings in general to be the driving force in history.Venezuela practices this form of Communism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

[stephen50right]

You should not dismiss the story.Classical Communism is a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. North Korean communists did not accept Marxism, because it was based on European capitalist experiences, and Leninism, which was based on Russia's experience, they conceived of Juche.Unlike Marxism–Leninism, which considers material forces to be the driving force of historical progress (known as historical materialism).Kim Il-sung (1912–1994) developed the ideology, originally viewed as a variant of Marxism–Leninism until it became distinctly "Korean" in character. Juche in North Korea considers human beings in general to be the driving force in history.Venezuela practices this form of Communism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Call it whatever ya like...dictators act basically the same regardless of their political spin, and that hasn't changed since the dawn of civilization.

[DemolitionMan]

Call it whatever ya like...dictators act basically the same regardless of their political spin, and that hasn't changed since the dawn of civilization.

Remember, every dictator runs it government differently. You cannot compare Maoism from Stalinism. You cannot compare the Nazis from Stalin. They each have their special brand of terror.

[DemolitionMan]

Remember, every dictator runs it government differently. You cannot compare Maoism from Stalinism. You cannot compare the Nazis from Stalin. They each have their special brand of terror.

For decades we drove a wedge between Mao and the Communist Russian government between the 1970s-1990s.Nixon drove that wedge between the Russians and the Chinese.Rapprochement fundamentally altered the context of the Cold War. Right now, there is a wedge between Kim and President Xi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_relations
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41950411
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS717US717&q=Rapprochement+between+the+US+and+China&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit5tmW943XAhXpiVQKHS-VBOkQvwUIIygA&biw=1920&bih=974

[stephen50right]

Remember, every dictator runs it government differently. You cannot compare Maoism from Stalinism. You cannot compare the Nazis from Stalin. They each have their special brand of terror.

I agree with ya. I think that's what I stated. 😉

[DemolitionMan]

I agree with ya. I think that's what I stated. 😉

I have been sick with the flu. Its taken alot of energy. But if you want the king of all of the despots it will be Pol Pot of Cambodia. Nobody knows who many people he murdered under his reign.

[Victoria33]

I saw a recent documentary on North Korea.  The government has its own internet and that is the only one citizens with phones and computer can get on.  They cannot get on regular internet - only the government one and the government controls what is on there.  Very few have a phone as they are so expensive.

[DemolitionMan]

I saw a recent documentary on North Korea.  The government has its own internet and that is the only one citizens with phones and computer can get on.  They cannot get on regular internet - only the government one and the government controls what is on there.  Very few have a phone as they are so expensive.

Kim loves surfing the internet.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/22/technology/security/north-korean-internet/index.html

[bigheadfred]

Sorry. I do agree. I have been sick with the flu. Its taken alot of energy. But if you want the king of all of the despots it will be Pol Pot of Cambodia. Nobody knows who many people he murdered under his reign.

Point of fact. All of the people who lived THROUGH those regimes, however varied in their aspet or application, repeat a base consistent dialogue.

I am going to disagree with the under reporting, by the mainstream, as proof of Pol Pot being the king. The vid "The killing fields".

There is this thing of underreported, ignored, or blatantly disregarded stats of the mass murders in the heart of Africa. And no one talks about it.

What was that last bomb attack by Boko Haram?

My point being there has been a consistent and pervasive genocide going on and on going in central Africa for several decades now. At least from the point I became aware of that. 

Redcoats, Mao Jackets, whatever. Three piece button downs. Paint the picture. Put on the  persona, the "look" and talk the talk.

At the end of the day. It is ALL the same ole same ole.

Spit

@Smokin Joe @Cyber Liberty @txradioguy @RoosGirl @Jazzhead

[DemolitionMan]

Point of fact. All of the people who lived THROUGH those regimes, however varied in their aspet or application, repeat a base consistent dialogue.

I am going to disagree with the under reporting, by the mainstream, as proof of Pol Pot being the king. The vid "The killing fields".

There is this thing of underreported, ignored, or blatantly disregarded stats of the mass murders in the heart of Africa. And no one talks about it.

What was that last bomb attack by Boko Haram?

My point being there has been a consistent and pervasive genocide going on and on going in central Africa for several decades now. At least from the point I became aware of that. 

Redcoats, Mao Jackets, whatever. Three piece button downs. Paint the picture. Put on the  persona, the "look" and talk the talk.

At the end of the day. It is ALL the same ole same ole.

Spit

@Smokin Joe @Cyber Liberty @txradioguy @RoosGirl @Jazzhead

Great Point!!!!

 

[bigheadfred]

Maybe I didn't quite finish the thought. From my point of view, it isn't in the actual numbers one despot murders, or the cause-political--theological--ideologically--thereof. It is the comparable consistency that matters.

Evil is evil.

[DemolitionMan]

Maybe I didn't quite finish the thought. From my point of view, it isn't in the actual numbers one despot murders, or the cause-political--theological--ideologically--thereof. It is the comparable consistency that matters.

Evil is evil.

 

[bigheadfred]

As a comparative, take into the accounts of history. Number of people in the comparative populations to the numbers killed. Start from the "beginning". Mesopotamia (?) Sumerians, Assyrians, Hittites, Egyptians, Phoenicians, "Sea Peoples, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Alexander the GREAT (???) --you see the drift????-yeah... go eastward the Chinese, Mongolians, the Japanese. A little to the south, the old East Indian texts.

Biblical.

Get back to Western Europe.  Include the Crusades. You seeing what I am telling you?

Islam.

The slaughter is consistent.

There is a better way.

[bigheadfred]

Mea culpa.

"My" Viking heritage.

On a personal note: One was more than enough. @Cyber Liberty  @Smokin Joe

[bigheadfred]

Call it whatever ya like...dictators act basically the same regardless of their political spin, and that hasn't changed since the dawn of civilization.

I admit I fast read your post.  You are to the point.
 
 

[Cyber Liberty]

@DemolitionMan, meet Fred.  He's a good friend of mine.

@bigheadfred, meet DemolitionMan.  He's a good friend of mine.

[DemolitionMan]

@DemolitionMan, meet Fred.  He's a good friend of mine.

@bigheadfred, meet DemolitionMan.  He's a good friend of mine.

Thank You Cyber Liberty for introducing me to bigheadfread.Cyber Liberty is a great person.

 

[bigheadfred]

OK. Now that is abridged. I mean a bridged. Like  I bought a pocket tee at a Gap Store ONCE.

comments aside

@DemolitionMan. You have an agenda. PM me on your mission statement. You are posting a large number of articles without much commentary per. This isn't a complaint. Merely this is a "relatively" small forum.The inundation of articles you post don't give "us", the most consistent commentators, a chance to discuss the issue (s..per article posted)

As far as a "Madman" approach to wards visibility aka viability...bazinga

[DemolitionMan]

OK. Now that is abridged. I mean a bridged. Like  I bought a pocket tee at a Gap Store ONCE.

comments aside

@DemolitionMan. You have an agenda. PM me on your mission statement. You are posting a large number of articles without much commentary per. This isn't a complaint. Merely this is a "relatively" small forum.The inundation of articles you post don't give "us", the most consistent commentators, a chance to discuss the issue (s..per article posted)

As far as a "Madman" approach to wards visibility aka viability...bazinga

Nancy has liked my approach and has received some praise from her. That is the reason why she has given me this board and a second one. If she tells me to dial down I will. I recieve my marching orders from the mods and Nancy. They want the "World News" and I am giving it to them.

[Cyber Liberty]

@DemolitionMan , Fred likes to talk on PM, too.  His invitation is high praise, go ahead and do it.

[DemolitionMan]

@DemolitionMan , Fred likes to talk on PM, too.  His invitation is high praise, go ahead and do it.

OK.