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Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« on: October 21, 2017, 02:10:20 pm »

Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
Mainstream journalists enjoyed hating this president for eight years — now all of a sudden he's their favorite guy

by Margaret Menge | Updated 21 Oct 2017 at 9:23 AM

What happened to the president they once reviled?

Mainstream media journalists are all of a sudden anxious to give the words of former President George W. Bush a full airing, and to refer to them in the most complimentary way.

Bush, wrote The Washington Post, had offered a “blunt assessment” in his speech in New York on Thursday and “warned about threats to American democracy.”

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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 02:26:12 pm »
Bush 1 and Bill Clinton have been buddies for a number of years.

Bush 2 has practically fawned over Obama and Hillary the past few years and especially with Hillary during the 2016 election, when no question he was miffed at Trump for taking down his brother Jeb who was the early favorite to win the Republican Party nomination.

You're of course right...the liberal media are loving the Bushes more and more each day. I don't think Bush 2 will do it, but I think the liberal media may believe that Bush 2 might campaign with the Democratic Party nominee in the 2020 race.

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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 02:35:58 pm »
"Chimpy" no more.

It wont matter how hard the MSM tries to bury Trump, clearly fewrer and fewer people are listening to them. Its the results that will matter.

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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 03:23:10 pm »


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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 03:31:02 pm »
The Trump Effect has been to unmask much of our federal government and who serves it.

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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 03:43:42 pm »
After seeing all the hype, I finally went back and read the transcript of Bush's speech. It was very interesting. One of the key points was he didn't mention Trump at all. At that, some of the things he could have said that have been attributed to anti-Trump could have been attributed to many things not Trump (from BLM to EU elections to Bernie Sanders).

Very telling that when he mentions things like opposing racism and divisions, many automatically assume he means Trump. Is that a subconscious way of admitting he may have a point?  Are we now supposed to defend those things?

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2017, 03:44:43 pm »
After seeing all the hype, I finally went back and read the transcript of Bush's speech. It was very interesting. One of the key points was he didn't mention Trump at all. At that, some of the things he could have said that have been attributed to anti-Trump could have been attributed to many things not Trump (from BLM to EU elections to Bernie Sanders).

Very telling that when he mentions things like opposing racism and divisions, many automatically assume he means Trump. Is that a subconscious way of admitting he may have a point?  Are we now supposed to defend those things?

If so, then why didn't he give this speech when Obama was in the White House?

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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2017, 03:46:57 pm »
After seeing all the hype, I finally went back and read the transcript of Bush's speech. It was very interesting. One of the key points was he didn't mention Trump at all. At that, some of the things he could have said that have been attributed to anti-Trump could have been attributed to many things not Trump (from BLM to EU elections to Bernie Sanders).

Very telling that when he mentions things like opposing racism and divisions, many automatically assume he means Trump. Is that a subconscious way of admitting he may have a point?  Are we now supposed to defend those things?

I gather you haven't been watching the media coverage of his speech, then.

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2017, 03:47:47 pm »
If so, then why didn't he give this speech when Obama was in the White House?

One of the biggest myths lately that has been pushed is that President Bush never spoke out against Obama. And while yes, it was rare, he actually did. It just wasn't widely reported and people are saying the lie that he never did over and over so much, it has become fact in their mind. An archive news search shows many instances of just what you were asking he should have done.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=President+bush+speaks+out+against+obama&filters=ex1%3a%22ez5_14528_16729%22&qs=n&sp=-1&pq=president+bush+speaks+out+against&sc=0-33&cvid=7412C3D8C7B9426CA931791E920B5E44&qpvt=President+bush+speaks+out+against+obama

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2017, 03:48:57 pm »
I gather you haven't been watching the media coverage of his speech, then.

The media is saying what they want it to mean. I went back to what he actually said, his actual speech.

The are two different things.

I'm not the only one. Other Conservative media have pointed this out too.

https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2017/10/21/found-george-w-bush-speech-offensive-you-are-the-problem/


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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2017, 03:50:56 pm »
One of the biggest myths lately that has been pushed is that President Bush never spoke out against Obama. And while yes, it was rare, he actually did. It just wasn't widely reported and people are saying the lie that he never did over and over so much, it has become fact in their mind. An archive news search shows many instances of just what you were asking he should have done.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=President+bush+speaks+out+against+obama&filters=ex1%3a%22ez5_14528_16729%22&qs=n&sp=-1&pq=president+bush+speaks+out+against&sc=0-33&cvid=7412C3D8C7B9426CA931791E920B5E44&qpvt=President+bush+speaks+out+against+obama

All of these stories are about one single instance.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2017, 03:51:55 pm »
The media is saying what they want it to mean. I went back to what he actually said, his actual speech.

The are two different things.

I'm not the only one. Other Conservative media have pointed this out too.

https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2017/10/21/found-george-w-bush-speech-offensive-you-are-the-problem/

Proof is in the pudding,  look at the picture I posted above.  Now who do you think Bush is happier to hang around with,  Obama and Clinton, or Trump?
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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2017, 03:52:29 pm »
The media is saying what they want it to mean. I went back to what he actually said, his actual speech.

The are two different things.

I'm not the only one. Other Conservative media have pointed this out too.

https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2017/10/21/found-george-w-bush-speech-offensive-you-are-the-problem/

The point is EVERYONE considered this Bush bashing Trump. Its not just Trump supporters interpreting his comments in the context of their own guilt, as you imply.

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2017, 03:54:11 pm »
The point is EVERYONE considered this Bush bashing Trump. Its not just Trump supporters interpreting his comments in the context of their own guilt, as you imply.

If everyone said the earth was flat, does it make it so?  And no, not everyone is as I pointed out.

And if you take off the Trump blinders and read the actual speech without it, he makes a very good point.

Instead of assuming when he talks about racism and division he is talking about Trump, maybe read it as he is talking about the rise of people like Richard Spencer, BLM, Antifa, etc. How is he wrong?

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2017, 03:56:17 pm »
If everyone said the earth was flat, does it make it so?  And no, not everyone is as I pointed out.

And if you take off the Trump blinders and read the actual speech without it, he makes a very good point.

Instead of assuming when he talks about racism and division he is talking about Trump, maybe read it as he is talking about the rise of people like Richard Spencer, BLM, Antifa, etc. How is he wrong?

All those things were there when Obama was in the White House.

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 03:59:37 pm »
All those things were there when Obama was in the White House.

And?  So what if he is just speaking now?

Are those things suddenly acceptable and worth defending because your guy is in the WH instead of the other guy? 

The argument can be flipped. Why is it not OK to speak out against those things now when you expected them to be spoken out against before?

Wrong is wrong. Evil is evil. No matter when it is called out.

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 04:00:05 pm »
If everyone said the earth was flat, does it make it so?  And no, not everyone is as I pointed out.

And if you take off the Trump blinders and read the actual speech without it, he makes a very good point.

Instead of assuming when he talks about racism and division he is talking about Trump, maybe read it as he is talking about the rise of people like Richard Spencer, BLM, Antifa, etc. How is he wrong?

Don't be obtuse. Why did he deliver this speech now? Why use the same phraseology McCain did - and McCain clearly was pointing his criticism at Trump - a day or two before?


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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 04:10:41 pm »
Proof is in the pudding,  look at the picture I posted above.  Now who do you think Bush is happier to hang around with,  Obama and Clinton, or Trump?
there are certainly a few pictures of Trump hanging out with the Clinton clan.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 04:11:46 pm »
there are certainly a few pictures of Trump hanging out with the Clinton clan.

How long ago was that?    The pic of Bush was taken last week.   You may not agree with me on this, but I think Trump has changed considerably since then.

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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 04:26:42 pm »
If so, then why didn't he give this speech when Obama was in the White House?

Great question!  I'd like W to answer it.

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Re: Media Suddenly in Love with ‘Dubya’ After He Attacks Trump
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 04:33:52 pm »
there are certainly a few pictures of Trump hanging out with the Clinton clan.

This is more than "hanging out":





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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 04:37:25 pm »
This is more than "hanging out":






That is definitely going 'above and beyond'.

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 04:41:14 pm »
Let's not forget, if no one else said it, Jeb said the Clintons were like cousins.

I'm not so much against the Iraqi war; but I do think it was somewhat mismanaged.

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 04:47:23 pm »
I was in the mall one day and some millennial type was in an army jacket;  and it had a picture of Bush and Hitler and said something like "same ol ____, different a-_____". And that song by Greenday, "American Idiot" seems to be about Bush. After the Bush terms,  the Republican party was really in trouble once Obama came in and it looked like 4 more years of the Democrats after him.

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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 04:55:37 pm »
The Bushes are officially dead to me now.  And no, I don't give a rat's patootie damn how "good and decent" they are as humans.  If the left loves them, I feel just the opposite NOW.  They are propagandizing FOR the left now.  Screw em.

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