Nearly half of Republicans would support preemptive strike on North Korea

[mystery-ak]

Nearly half of Republicans would support preemptive strike on North Korea
by Josh Siegel | Oct 15, 2017, 1:20 PM

Almost half of Republicans would support a pre-emptive military strike on North Korea after President Trump's saber-rattling toward the hermit kingdom.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, released Thursday, showed 46 percent of Republicans favor striking North Korea before it strikes the U.S.

The feeling amongst nearly half of Republicans jibes with President Trump's aggressive rhetoric towards Pyongyang is it repeatedly conducts missile and nuclear tests.

Trump in August promised he would impose "fire and fury" on North Korea. Last month, he threatened in his speech at the United Nations to "totally destroy" the country.

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[Fishrrman]

From the article:
"The Quinnipiac University Poll, released Thursday, showed 46 percent of Republicans favor striking North Korea before it strikes the U.S." (emphasis added)

Frankly, I'm shocked that MORE people, and not just Republicans, do not agree with this statement -- in its entirety.

Do we just sit and wait for them to hit us?
Or....?

The major issue is China.
How to handle them?

[KingsX]

The headline should read:  "nearly half of ARM CHAIR WARRIORS who will be DRAFTED"

[roamer_1]

From the article:
"The Quinnipiac University Poll, released Thursday, showed 46 percent of Republicans favor striking North Korea before it strikes the U.S." (emphasis added)

Frankly, I'm shocked that MORE people, and not just Republicans, do not agree with this statement -- in its entirety.

Do we just sit and wait for them to hit us?
Or....?

The major issue is China.
How to handle them?

I certainly wouldn't support it.
Looks more like work for the spooks to me.

[Frank Cannon]

The headline should read:  "nearly half of ARM CHAIR WARRIORS who will be DRAFTED"

I suggest that you alert someone at your nursing home to get you a current newspaper. Look at the date. It may be frightening, but look at it. It does not read October 16, 1972. It reads October 16, 2017.

[KingsX]

I suggest that you alert someone at your nursing home to get you a current newspaper. Look at the date. It may be frightening, but look at it. It does not read October 16, 1972. It reads October 16, 2017.

I suggest someone alert you to the fact that the government can reinstate the draft at any time... maybe the next war... and this time women would be drafted. 

There has been recent discussion about this in various military news sources.  So you are the one who needs to keep up with the times.


https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/07/25/bringing-back-the-draft/

https://www.navytimes.com/news/2017/08/03/tell-us-what-you-think-should-the-us-reinstate-a-draft/

[Gefn]

I suggest someone alert you to the fact that the government can reinstate the draft at any time... maybe the next war... and this time women would be drafted. 

There has been recent discussion about this in various military news sources.  So you are the one who needs to keep up with the times.


https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/07/25/bringing-back-the-draft/

https://www.navytimes.com/news/2017/08/03/tell-us-what-you-think-should-the-us-reinstate-a-draft/

I know you are right. Israel has been placing women it's army for eons. (Example)

On the other hand, of the daughter of a veteran,  I would go gladly if I had time to get my affairs in order, but I think I'm too old, even for a desk job. I believe  thirty nine is the cut off date.

I wish there was volunteer things to do at home for those of us over 40 who would like to help/serve the country. If anyone knows of such things let me know. I've got all the time in the world after Election Day

[Gefn]

I suggest someone alert you to the fact that the government can reinstate the draft at any time... maybe the next war... and this time women would be drafted. 

There has been recent discussion about this in various military news sources.  So you are the one who needs to keep up with the times.


https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/07/25/bringing-back-the-draft/

https://www.navytimes.com/news/2017/08/03/tell-us-what-you-think-should-the-us-reinstate-a-draft/

@KingsX - I just saw this article. It's just a FYI, but it's interesting.

http://gazette.com/too-fat-to-fight-colorado-nonprofit-says-military-threatened-by-childhood-obesity/article/1613250


I was going to post it as a separate thread but decided against it.

[libertybele]

From the article:
"The Quinnipiac University Poll, released Thursday, showed 46 percent of Republicans favor striking North Korea before it strikes the U.S." (emphasis added)

Frankly, I'm shocked that MORE people, and not just Republicans, do not agree with this statement -- in its entirety.

Do we just sit and wait for them to hit us?
Or....?

The major issue is China.
How to handle them?

Another major player is Russia.  How do we handle them?  In the long run is the threat from China and/or Russia greater than the threat from N. Korea?

[Mesaclone]

This kind of survey is essentially meaningless.

For example, I would support such a strike IF circumstances warranted it....but that's not a blanket "go for it" acceptance. Should NK attain ICBM capability that can reach our mainland AND upgrade to multiple megaton payloads...then yes, we would have little choice but to directly annihilate that capability. We are not their yet, so right now I would consider a large scale US attack on NK to be grossly premature...though there are cases in which I'd support a more surgical strike to take down a testing site or kill leadership.

As for a draft, very unlikely barring full scale WWIII. The South Korean army with the support of US forces on the ground...and heavy naval and air support from the US..would be sufficient to defeat any NK ground invasion. Albeit, at great cost in life and limb.  A mass call up of draftees just would not be necessary...or desirable...from the view of the military. The professional volunteer forces are vastly more effective than a draftee force any way, so a draft would literally be a last resort. 

[Frank Cannon]

I wish there was volunteer things to do at home for those of us over 40 who would like to help/serve the country. If anyone knows of such things let me know. I've got all the time in the world after Election Day

Are you kidding me? There are tons of things. Meals-on-wheels off the top of my head.

[Emjay]

From the article:
"The Quinnipiac University Poll, released Thursday, showed 46 percent of Republicans favor striking North Korea before it strikes the U.S." (emphasis added)

Frankly, I'm shocked that MORE people, and not just Republicans, do not agree with this statement -- in its entirety.

Do we just sit and wait for them to hit us?
Or....?

The major issue is China.
How to handle them?

I don't know.  It is a serious problem.  Here we have a totally insane, evil dictator who actually has weapons that could do us serious harm and, I am, frankly scared of what he might do.

On the other hand, a preemptive strike against another country also scares me.

[Mom MD]

From the article:
"The Quinnipiac University Poll, released Thursday, showed 46 percent of Republicans favor striking North Korea before it strikes the U.S." (emphasis added)

Frankly, I'm shocked that MORE people, and not just Republicans, do not agree with this statement -- in its entirety.

Do we just sit and wait for them to hit us?
Or....?

The major issue is China.
How to handle them?

I highly doubt China would stick their neck out for rocket boy.  The real problem is the loss of life in Seoul that would happen with a preemptive strike. I think were it not for the proximity of Seoul we would have dealt with the nuisance long ago.

[DiogenesLamp]

For example, I would support such a strike IF circumstances warranted it....but that's not a blanket "go for it" acceptance. Should NK attain ICBM capability that can reach our mainland AND upgrade to multiple megaton payloads...then yes, we would have little choice but to directly annihilate that capability. We are not their yet, so right now I would consider a large scale US attack on NK to be grossly premature...though there are cases in which I'd support a more surgical strike to take down a testing site or kill leadership.

I have an entirely different outlook.   I believe we should have followed the Curtis LeMay approach.  I think Curtis LeMay was right back in 1950,  and his methodology has remained correct ever since.   


The very idea that you would tolerate anyone developing the means to hurt you is sheer insanity in my opinion.   I believe our footing should be and always should have been,   "You will not develop nuclear weapons and delivery systems.   Period."   

[DiogenesLamp]

On the other hand, a preemptive strike against another country also scares me.

I don't like it either,  but one nuke dropped on a city could kill 100,000 people or more in an instant.   M.A.D. works on sane people.   It doesn't work on kook bats.   

[aligncare]

This kind of survey is essentially meaningless.

Especially since it’s conducted by a university poll. The pollsters are college students – ponytailed, pierced and tattooed college snowflakes. Quinnipiac polls have never yielded accurate measurements of public opinion. Leave these serious questions to pollsters with a proven track record.

[KingsX]

@KingsX - I just saw this article. It's just a FYI, but it's interesting.

http://gazette.com/too-fat-to-fight-colorado-nonprofit-says-military-threatened-by-childhood-obesity/article/1613250


I was going to post it as a separate thread but decided against it.

Interesting that the military is concerned with childhood obesity.
Wonder what "fix" they might have in mind.  Maybe compulsory
military training for ALL youths??  Something similar was floated
many years ago... mandatory military or national service for all.

[KingsX]

Another major player is Russia.  How do we handle them?  In the long run is the threat from China and/or Russia greater than the threat from N. Korea?

Russia, China and NK are all allies who share borders.

Russia has made a deal with NK to import lots of NK workers into Russia's far east.

A few years ago,  Putin invited the NK leader to Putin's annual Communist Red Army glorification military parade.

I wouldn't be surprised if both Russia and China are covertly behind NK's war-mongering.  Maybe "Rocket Man" is some kind of bait to lure the US military into a much bigger trap.

[KingsX]

I don't know.  It is a serious problem.  Here we have a totally insane, evil dictator who actually has weapons that could do us serious harm and, I am, frankly scared of what he might do.

On the other hand, a preemptive strike against another country also scares me.

This fits right in with what I just posted.

Maybe the US is being baited by NK.

Maybe Russia and China are are using NK to lure the US into a trap. 

[KingsX]

I know you are right. Israel has been placing women it's army for eons. (Example)

On the other hand, of the daughter of a veteran,  I would go gladly if I had time to get my affairs in order, but I think I'm too old, even for a desk job. I believe  thirty nine is the cut off date.

There are advantages of being old... especially now at this precarious evil end of the age.

One is blessed to be young at the height of an empire... instead of the degenerate dregs of a decaying empire.