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Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« on: October 13, 2017, 11:50:11 am »
Good, that's what you get for endangering your child. Do people like her have absolutely no concept of what life was like before vaccinations? I wonder what qualifies her to know better than science.


http://www.wilx.com/content/news/Michigan-mom-jailed-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-son-loses-primary-custody-of-boy-450578013.html

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The Michigan mother sent to jail after refusing to comply with a court order to vaccinate her 9-year old son has more legal woes. Rebecca Bredow lost primary custody of the boy Wednesday. She will now split custody 50/50 with the child's father James Horne.

Before Bredow went to jail, she had primary custody. She was released from the Oakland County jail early Monday. She thought she would be reunited with her son, but he remained with his father. While she was in jail, Horne was granted temporary custody of their son, and the boy received four immunizations Monday.

A referee assigned to the custody case decided the boy's father should have joint custody. Judge Karen McDonald who sent Bredow to jail for not complying with her order, agreed, and approved the referee's recommendation.
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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 11:52:39 am »
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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2017, 12:00:57 pm »
It would be helpful to know which vaccinations the state forced on the child. The story doesn't indicate.
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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2017, 01:08:40 pm »
We don't know that "the state" forced the vaccinations.  I understand it was the father who did so.

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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2017, 01:10:56 pm »
We don't know that "the state" forced the vaccinations.  I understand it was the father who did so.
Possibly: 'You'll give me custody? I won't have to pay support? Shut up kid, you're getting the shots.'

'Coercion' can take many forms, if present.
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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 01:12:35 pm »
Possibly: 'You'll give me custody? I won't have to pay support? Shut up kid, you're getting the shots.'

'Coercion' can take many forms, if present.

Understood, but I got the impression he initiated the whole thing; not the state.

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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 01:15:27 pm »
We don't know that "the state" forced the vaccinations.  I understand it was the father who did so.
Yes, but the state threw the woman in jail. Sorry I didn't state it more clearly.
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Re: Mother in vaccination fight loses primary custody of son
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 01:16:37 pm »
Understood, but I got the impression he initiated the whole thing; not the state.
He may have offered them a 'deal', too. We just don't know.
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