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Petition of the day

By Aurora Barnes   on Oct 11, 2017 at 8:20 pm

The petition of the day is: Robinson v. United States 16-1532

Issue: Whether, or under what circumstances, in a state that permits residents to legally carry firearms while in public, an officer’s belief that a person is armed allows the officers to infer for purposes of a Terry v. Ohio search that the person is “presently dangerous.”

Terry v. Ohio: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/392/1

Robinson v. United States: http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/robinson-v-united-states/

Cases in the Pipeline:http://www.scotusblog.com/category/in-the-pipeline/

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Re: (SCOTUS) The petition of the day is: Robinson v. United States 16-1532
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 12:05:45 pm »
They decided he is presently dangerous based on the documented fact that he cleared a background check?
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Re: (SCOTUS) The petition of the day is: Robinson v. United States 16-1532
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 12:19:59 pm »
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/16-1532-cert-tsac-Gun-Owners.pdf

ARGUMENT

I.   THE FOURTH CIRCUIT’S OPINION IS FRAUGHT WITH FACTUAL AND LEGAL ERRORS.

A. The Implications of the Fourth Circuit’s Opinion Are Expansive.

The court of appeals en banc decision allows the police to “frisk” anyone they stop who may be armed, based on nothing more than the possible presence of a firearm.  United States v. Robinson, 846 F.3d 694, 696 (4th Cir. 2017).  Although the opinion does not expressly say so, implicitly it opens the door for the police to disarm any American on whom a weapon is found, even if lawfully carried.  See Robinson at 709 (Harris, J., dissenting). 

Although Judge Neimeyer’s opinion failed to address the issue, forcible police disarmament of citizens in these situations is entirely predictable. It is what happened in Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 30 (1968), in Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106, 107 (1977) (per curiam), and is what happened here.  Indeed, it would be counter intuitive to expect the police to frisk someone, find a firearm, and say “ah, I see you have a gun, please keep it while I go write you a ticket.”  But, very much unlike the facts in Terry and Mimms — where the police reasonably suspected that there was actual criminal activity afoot — the only infraction that gave rise to the (pretextual) traffic stop in this case was failure to wear a seat belt.  Robinson at 697. Although a police force may be committed to the enforcement of “Click it or Ticket,” there certainly was no special danger posed to the police by a citizen with an unlatched buckle.  The Fourth Circuit’s ruling that the police may disarm any law-abiding gun owner with a firearm, for no reason but that he is armed, stands in stark contrast to the Second Amendment which states that the right to “bear arms shall not be infringed.”

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Re: (SCOTUS) The petition of the day is: Robinson v. United States 16-1532
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 12:20:01 pm »
Thanks for posting. Is this a petition for cert? (Because this is something that needs to be sorted out).
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Re: (SCOTUS) The petition of the day is: Robinson v. United States 16-1532
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 12:24:54 pm »
Apr 07 2017   Application (16A969) to extend the time to file a petition for a writ of certiorari from April 23, 2017 to June 22, 2017, submitted to The Chief Justice.
Apr 18 2017   Application (16A969) granted by The Chief Justice extending the time to file until June 22, 2017.
Jun 22 2017   Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due July 24, 2017)

Jul 20 2017   Order extending time to file response to petition to and including August 23, 2017.
Jul 24 2017   Brief amicus curiae of National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers filed.

Jul 24 2017   Brief amici curiae of States of West Virginia, et al. filed.

Jul 24 2017   Brief amici curiae of Gun Owners of America, Inc., et al. filed.

Aug 10 2017   Order further extending time to file response to petition to and including September 19, 2017.
Sep 19 2017   Brief of respondent United States in opposition filed.

Oct 02 2017   Reply of petitioner Shaquille M. Robinson filed.
Oct 04 2017   DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 10/27/2017.