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The Internet Had Already Lost Its Neutrality


Even while the FCC was more strictly regulating, a few powerful companies took control of what we see and don't.




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Now of course, these are not nice people. Their website espoused vile hate. But the fact remains that what they were publishing was not illegal, merely immoral, and their immoral speech was effectively shut down by a small number of private companies who decided to exercise their considerable control over what we’re allowed to read. And what is to stop them from expanding this decision to other categories, forcing the rest of us to conform to Silicon Valley’s idea of what it is moral and right for us to see?


Fifteen years ago, when I started blogging, it was common to hear that “the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” You don’t hear that so often anymore, because it’s not true. China has proven very effective at censoring the internet, and as market power has consolidated in the tech industry, so have private firms.

Meanwhile, our experience of the internet is increasingly controlled by a handful of firms, most especially Google and Facebook.  The argument for regulating these companies as public utilities is arguably at least as strong as the argument for thus regulating ISPs, and very possibly much stronger; while cable monopolies may have local dominance, none of them has the ability that Google and Facebook have to unilaterally shape what Americans see, hear, and read.


https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-21/the-internet-had-already-lost-its-neutrality
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Google is locking people out of documents, and you should be worried



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It turns out that even your private documents can be censored online. This morning, a ton of users reported being locked out of completely innocuous Google Docs for "inappropriate content."

Google's abuse policy prohibits the posting of serious threats, needlessly graphic or violent content, hate speech, harassment, confidential information, pornography, and anything illegal including child exploitation and copyrighted content.

Today, however, multiple users believe that the content they were locked out of did not contain prohibited material. National Geographic reporter Rachael Bale, who was locked out of a draft of a story about wildlife crime, claims that nothing in her document violated Google's policies. "It's about legal, but ethically dubious activity," she tweeted.


http://mashable.com/2017/10/31/google-docs-locking-people-out/#UpjlG6Bzmaq2
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Google is locking people out of documents, and you should be worried




http://mashable.com/2017/10/31/google-docs-locking-people-out/#UpjlG6Bzmaq2
Why I'm staying out of the cloud...

Google had plenty of practice censoring the web in China.
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Why I'm staying out of the cloud...

Google had plenty of practice censoring the web in China.


I have never comprehended why any intelligent person in their right mind would use "the cloud"  to save anything important.   Letting other people have and keep your data is just asking to be kicked in the nads.   
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I have never comprehended why any intelligent person in their right mind would use "the cloud"  to save anything important.   Letting other people have and keep your data is just asking to be kicked in the nads.

I made my own dang cloud. And my boy is uber-geek too, and he made his own dang cloud also... Mine backs to his His backs to mine... And the nicest thing is, if I need a buttload of my data back down for some reason, I just jump in the truck and head over there with a hard drive instead of waiting a couple days to get it back down. Best of both worlds.

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And in the ongoing saga of the media attempting to manipulate elections through the power of Broadcasting reach: 




Shep Smith just called Roy Moore an alleged child molester




https://youtu.be/YbmK7LU5M-0


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3608342/posts
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And in the ongoing saga of the media attempting to manipulate elections through the power of Broadcasting reach: 




Shep Smith just called Roy Moore an alleged child molester




https://youtu.be/YbmK7LU5M-0


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3608342/posts

Well, technically, all of that is true.  I know it's Shep and all, but....

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Well, technically, all of that is true.  I know it's Shep and all, but....


Bill Clinton  is an alleged rapist.  Barack Obama is an alleged homosexual.   


Control of the broadcasting apparatus allows them to circulate their smears without rebuttal or retaliation,   and we are fools to allow this one sided propaganda to the public to continue. 


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Well, technically, all of that is true.  I know it's Shep and all, but....
Child Molester" conjures images of brutalized five year-olds. FFS. I have seen 14 year-olds (when I was that age) who were very well developed. While below the age of consent and minors, they were not "children" in the developmental sense--some of those young ladies were bustier, even allowing for the Charmin factor, than their moms.

For that Matter, I can allege that Shep Smith is a space alien masquerading as a journalist, hiding in plain sight by posing as a journalist and manipulating minds to effect his(?)* disguise.

*(because you never know what gender a space alien really is)
I haven't watched that jackass since the Superdome and Katrina.
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Child Molester" conjures images of brutalized five year-olds. FFS. I have seen 14 year-olds (when I was that age) who were very well developed. While below the age of consent and minors, they were not "children" in the developmental sense--some of those young ladies were bustier, even allowing for the Charmin factor, than their moms.

For that Matter, I can allege that Shep Smith is a space alien masquerading as a journalist, hiding in plain sight by posing as a journalist and manipulating minds to effect his(?)* disguise.

*(because you never know what gender a space alien really is)
I haven't watched that jackass since the Superdome and Katrina.

Whoa, there!  14 year olds are children, because despite the state of their physical development, they are still mentally children.  It doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether they are "developed" or not.  That's the whole point of establishing an "age of consent". 

I think you wandered off the path and your point got woefully lost.

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Bill Clinton  is an alleged rapist.  Barack Obama is an alleged homosexual.   


Control of the broadcasting apparatus allows them to circulate their smears without rebuttal or retaliation,   and we are fools to allow this one sided propaganda to the public to continue.

So the same "one sided" broadcasting apparatus that is calling Bill Clinton an alleged rapist and Barack Obama an alleged homosexual is calling Roy Moore an alleged child abuser?    Doesn't sound so one sided to me; sounds pretty equal opportunity.
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So the same "one sided" broadcasting apparatus that is calling Bill Clinton an alleged rapist and Barack Obama an alleged homosexual is calling Roy Moore an alleged child abuser?    Doesn't sound so one sided to me; sounds pretty equal opportunity.

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Whoa, there!  14 year olds are children, because despite the state of their physical development, they are still mentally children.  It doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether they are "developed" or not.  That's the whole point of establishing an "age of consent". 

I think you wandered off the path and your point got woefully lost.


I have read articles asserting that the girl who claimed to be "14"  at the time,  was actually 17 at the time.   I've been trying to find out from where they got this information,   because I think it makes a big difference.   

One would think this particular detail could be nailed down by looking at some yearbooks from that town. 


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So the same "one sided" broadcasting apparatus that is calling Bill Clinton an alleged rapist and Barack Obama an alleged homosexual is calling Roy Moore an alleged child abuser? 


You make an erroneous assumption in thinking that any broadcasting system has ever called Bill Clinton an alleged rapist or Barack Obama an alleged homosexual.   

To my knowledge, those allegations have never been put through the propaganda system of America.


You can only hear them by visiting conservative websites and reading information you wont' see on the broadcast networks.   


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I take it back.   I do know of one incident in which someone claimed Barack Obama was a homosexual. 


https://youtu.be/aakEvMc2110

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I have read articles asserting that the girl who claimed to be "14"  at the time,  was actually 17 at the time.   I've been trying to find out from where they got this information,   because I think it makes a big difference.   

One would think this particular detail could be nailed down by looking at some yearbooks from that town.

Yes, this will come to light...just after we succeed in destroying the candidate.  So convenient.
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You make an erroneous assumption in thinking that any broadcasting system has ever called Bill Clinton an alleged rapist or Barack Obama an alleged homosexual.   

To my knowledge, those allegations have never been put through the propaganda system of America.


You can only hear them by visiting conservative websites and reading information you wont' see on the broadcast networks.
Doood.  Sarcasm.
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Doood.  Sarcasm.


I've read it several times.   If it is intended as sarcasm,  it is entirely too subtle for me to grasp it. 


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I've read it several times.   If it is intended as sarcasm,  it is entirely too subtle for me to grasp it.

It's @RoosGirl,  The gal swims in it.
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Whoa, there!  14 year olds are children, because despite the state of their physical development, they are still mentally children.  It doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether they are "developed" or not.  That's the whole point of establishing an "age of consent". 

I think you wandered off the path and your point got woefully lost.
Apparently, my point got woefully lost.

At five I wasn't interested in sex.
Nope.
Not a bit.

By 14 that had changed, but by 14 I was working heavy construction on a seawall crew between stints on a pile driver as a deckhand, worked on my grandfather's farm (and had for years) in the tobacco fields and baling hay, had been driving tractor for years, and had just joined the Volunteer Fire Department. I had my own boat (skiff) and a commercial fishing license.  This was within a handful of years of the time of these allegations.

Legally, 14 year-olds are still not adults, but when we think of "children" the tendency is to envision grade schoolers, not nubile adolescents. We even call them "teenagers" instead of "children", and they are commonly not hesitant to remind adults of that change in status, even though the legal significance is moot.

I'd say the difference between prepubescent and 14 is HUGE. Now, that doesn't mean adults should prey on 14 year olds, but there is no proof that even happened in Moore's case, and there are folks who have stepped forward and pointed out serious problems with the narrative that woman (now) has told of events that she alleged 40 years ago.

But in desperation, as the election approaches and the narrative disintegrates too soon for those who would scuttle Moore, they are doing (again) what I predicted when this all started: They are doubling down on the rhetoric, because they are plumb out of credible complainants. They even listed people who were not complainants as complainants (who claimed there was no sexual behaviour involved) to pad out the numbers.

The Gloria Allred traveling show and hit posse has run out of poo to throw, so the media have to carry the ball. 
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I've read it several times.   If it is intended as sarcasm,  it is entirely too subtle for me to grasp it.

And since you were too lazy in our previous conversation on Moore to go back and read what I said, instead of asking me to repeat myself (again), I shall not explain further here.

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Whoa, there!  14 year olds are children, because despite the state of their physical development, they are still mentally children.  It doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether they are "developed" or not.  That's the whole point of establishing an "age of consent". 

I think you wandered off the path and your point got woefully lost.

Thank you for making that point.

It doesn't matter what any man on this forum "thinks" about what a child is..... a 14 year old girl IS a child.

And if she was molested by Moore, he IS a pedophile, regardless of her development.

(That accusation, of course, has not been proven).
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And since you were too lazy in our previous conversation on Moore to go back and read what I said, instead of asking me to repeat myself (again), I shall not explain further here.


Ah.  Another "I'm going to spend more time explaining why I won't explain than I would have if I had  explained "  maneuver.   

:)   


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Ah.  Another "I'm going to spend more time explaining why I won't explain than I would have if I had  explained "  maneuver.   

:)

And another spending more time bitching about what someone won't do for you that could do for yourself.  Such is life, sometimes we must make sacrifices.

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And another spending more time bitching about what someone won't do for you that could do for yourself.  Such is life, sometimes we must make sacrifices.

I want to spend more time talking about pie.  I had some really good pie last week...pumpkin pie with lotsa whipped cream.
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