ESPN’s Jemele Hill suspended from network for two weeks

[Bigun]

Okay.  Posted this before you shot over to the slimes and found their collection.  I trust Trump more than I do the New York Times.

I trust Pee Wee Herman more than the NY Times.

[Concerned]

That one was true.


That one was also true. 



In Chicago, it's a rare day when two people aren't shot.  Don't they have something like 700 homicides per year?

I didn't hear this one.  Perhaps he was being metaphorical.  I'm going to count it as true. 






I don't know what you are talking about here.  You will have to be more specific. 





Oh,  I see.  You are a quibble artist.  You pounce on a gnat so you can try to get us to swallow a camel.  What Trump said is close enough that a reasonable  person will regard it as true. 
 






No you won't.  You will declare it purple with orange spots and expect the rest of us to see the same delusion. 

So far as Trump's other "lies"  that you are trying to push on us,  I will quote John Maynard Keynes. 


"When the facts change,  I change my mind.  What do you do sir? "

Any chance you can provide sources for all of your assertions above?  For example, I’ve seen no definitive “evidence” 3M to 5M “illegals” voted for Hillary. If you have, kindly post it. Further, “Obama” didn’t “wiretap” Trump, a FISA court approved a wiretap on Manafort. If you can’t understand the distinction, there’s no reason for me to try and carry on a civil, logical discussion with you.

Similarly, truth and honesty isn’t about asserting someone is “quibbling”. Things are either true or they’re not. If you excuse lies as “quibbling”, again, there’s no reason for me to try and carry on a discussion with you. I am honest and always try and be honest and I condemn lies whether they come from Dems or Reps. I wish everyone else would try and be so objective. Trump promised various things in his 100 day Plan. Some of those were 100% within his control (e.g., proposing a Constitutional Amendment for term limits), he didn’t do it. That’s a lie in my book. Obama claimed he’d close Gitmo in he first year. I called him out on that lie as I did on “if you like your Healthcare Plan....”. Similarly, I’ll call Trump out on his. Why others excuse him simply because he has a R behind his name or because they “like” him is beyond me. 

I don’t see that anything changed relative to many of Trump’s lies. He just lied which he’s done over and over again. I despised that when Obama did it and despise it when Trump does it, but that just me.

[DiogenesLamp]

Okay.  Posted this before you shot over to the slimes and found their collection.  I trust Trump more than I do the New York Times.

My rule of thumb is that if you cite enemy propaganda,  you are doing their work for them.

People citing the "New York Times"  or the "Washington Post",  or "Vox"  or any number of Liberal propaganda lying systems,  automatically lose the argument.   

[DiogenesLamp]

Any chance you can provide sources for all of your assertions above?  For example, I’ve seen no definitive “evidence” 3M to 5M “illegals” voted for Hillary. If you have, kindly post it.

I did.  Months ago.  Apparently you missed it.  You can search back in my postings and probably find it.   

Further, “Obama” didn’t “wiretap” Trump, a FISA court approved a wiretap on Manafort. If you can’t understand the distinction, there’s no reason for me to try and carry on a civil, logical discussion with you.

Obama is a corrupt, lying piece of sh*t.  His agents fabricated their probable cause out of flimsy crap so they could get an Obama piece of sh*t judge to approve it.  The entire point was to cast a wide net around Trump so that they could spy on his campaign.   

Do you not keep up with the news?  Obama was spying on the entire Trump campaign.  I read a write up (i've read several writes ups from various places)  of it on Instapundit.  I think this is the one.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276077/

Now the latest CNN spin piece informs us that secret FISA orders were used to spy on the conversations of Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.  The surveillance was discontinued for lack of evidence and then renewed under a new warrant. This is part of a pattern of FISA abuses by Obama Inc. which never allowed minor matters like lack of evidence to dissuade them from new FISA requests.

Similarly, truth and honesty isn’t about asserting someone is “quibbling”. Things are either true or they’re not.

A theory of no value when you are dealing with a "fog of war."   You don't know what is true.  You can't tell what is true.  All you can do is make out vague shapes.   People can take a stab at describing what is "true",  and i'm not going to call them "liars"  when they don't get it perfect.   

If you excuse lies as “quibbling”, again, there’s no reason for me to try and carry on a discussion with you.

You've already offered that excuse.  I'm thinking I should feel relieved. 

[Concerned]

I did.  Months ago.  Apparently you missed it.  You can search back in my postings and probably find it.   




Obama is a corrupt, lying piece of sh*t.  His agents fabricated their probable cause out of flimsy crap so they could get an Obama piece of sh*t judge to approve it.  The entire point was to cast a wide net around Trump so that they could spy on his campaign.   

Do you not keep up with the news?  Obama was spying on the entire Trump campaign.  I read a write up (i've read several writes ups from various places)  of it on Instapundit.  I think this is the one.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276077/







A theory of no value when you are dealing with a "fog of war."   You don't know what is true.  You can't tell what is true.  All you can do is make out vague shapes.   People can take a stab at describing what is "true",  and i'm not going to call them "liars"  when they don't get it perfect.   











You've already offered that excuse.  I'm thinking I should feel relieved.

I’m relatively new here. I searched for your proof but can’t find it. Hopefully you’ll be kind enough to provide me a link but I’m not optimistic that TRUE proof is forthcoming. 

Relative to “Obama” “wiretapping” Trump, you apparently unwittingly proved my point. It was a FISA court issued warrant, not President Obama’s personally,  who wiretapped Manafort. Thanks for that!

I certainly know what truth is   In fact, I cherish it. Truth and honor are extremely important to me. I pity those who excuse lies with excuses like it was close to the truth butnjust not “perfect”. Truth must be perfect. It must be accurate. Those who think truth isn’t “perfect” excused things like Bill Clinton’s perjury as simply not “perfect”. I won’t do that, and I’ll condemn those who do.

I’m truly sorry Trump is such a liar. I think it belittles our country’s standing in the world and puts his supporters in the untenable position of trying to defend the indefensible. Rather than defend the lies, I’d much prefer they’d just call out his lies like many of them did about Obama’s. Sadly too many are apparently simply too hypocritical to just do that.

[rangerrebew]

BREAKING: ESPN Suspends Jemele Hill After Calling For NFL Advertiser Boycott
October 9, 2017 by Joshua Caplan 110 Comments

 

ESPN pundit, Jemele Hill was so upset that Jerry Jones warned Cowboys players to stand for the Anthem that she called for people to boycott his advertisers.

Liberals aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. ESPN lives and dies by the NFL so Jemele Hill is telling people to boycott her own network.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/breaking-espn-suspends-jemele-hill-calling-nfl-advertiser-boycott/

[TomSea]

You wonder how a-holes like this can get away with shooting their mouth off.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Breaking?

There were at least three threads on this yesterday.

[Frank Cannon]

Breaking?

There were at least three threads on this yesterday.

So you are saying this should be "Braking News" because we should put a stop to it?

[DCPatriot]

'Suspension' to ESPN here, is a paid 2 week vacation.   

[DiogenesLamp]

I’m relatively new here. I searched for your proof but can’t find it. Hopefully you’ll be kind enough to provide me a link but I’m not optimistic that TRUE proof is forthcoming. 

I thought I already answered your comment about "truth"  in the fog of war.   I've gotten the impression that if Trump said there were 5 million illegal alien voters,   and the "truth"  turned out to be 6 million,  you would say he "lied."   

Relative to “Obama” “wiretapping” Trump, you apparently unwittingly proved my point. It was a FISA court issued warrant, not President Obama’s personally,  who wiretapped Manafort. Thanks for that!

Well that is highly amusing insofar as you think Obama's team doesn't play these legal misdirections to cover up their corrupt doings.   Obviously you didn't read the article to which I linked in my previous response,  (it covers this dodge) and I really didn't expect that you would anyways.   

My decision not to bother looking through my posting history to find the discussion about the illegal immigrants voting is validated.   Why should I put any effort into it if you will simply ignore something that you don't want to consider anyway?

I certainly know what truth is   In fact, I cherish it. Truth and honor are extremely important to me. I pity those who excuse lies with excuses like it was close to the truth butnjust not “perfect”. Truth must be perfect. It must be accurate. Those who think truth isn’t “perfect” excused things like Bill Clinton’s perjury as simply not “perfect”. I won’t do that, and I’ll condemn those who do.

Yes,  thank God that you are not like all of us publicans!   

[goatprairie]

You wonder how a-holes like this can get away with shooting their mouth off.

Black privilege.  A white announcer would have been fired.  Of course, being black is the only reason she was hired in the first place. Just another incompetent, mouthy AA hire.

[LateForLunch]

I’m relatively new here. I certainly know what truth is   

God, what a dance you leftists do. For someone incessantly whining about how important accuracy and truth are you don't tell the truth. DJT NEVER stated that the Eightball Obama PERSONALLY tapped him or his campaign. That is called a non-sequitur. Surely you can look that up and learn what it means, since you insert them so habitually into your posts on this thread.

I frankly don't think you could find your own *ss with both hands.

Leftists never say
Never see
Never think 
Ands never do
Anything
That's really new!
BTW, that is you!
Burma Shave

[Concerned]

God, what a dance you leftists do. For someone incessantly whining about how important accuracy and truth are you don't tell the truth. DJT NEVER stated that the Eightball Obama PERSONALLY tapped him or his campaign. That is called a non-sequitur. Surely you can look that up and learn what it means, since you insert them so habitually into your posts on this thread.

I frankly don't think you could find your own *ss with both hands.

Leftists never say
Never see
Never think 
Ands never do
Anything
That's really new!
BTW, that is you!
Burma Shave

Heres the Tweet I’m referencing:

“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

I was imprecise in my comments. Thanks for the correction. My apologies.

The point I was trying to make and was apparently rather in artful in making, is that Obama did NOT personally “had (his) “wires tapped” in Trump Tower”.  A FISA Court approved a request by the FBI to wiretap Manafort. That’s completely different than the assertion made by the President. Of course, had he Tweeted “the Obama Administration.... “ it would have had a completely different meaning. I believe he was probably intentionally pointing the finger at the former President himself rather than his Administration and by doing so, his actual Tweet was obviously false as many of the things he Tweets and says are.

I’m far from a Leftist. I’m about as fiscally conservative as they come and wish the President would reduce the debt rather than add to it.  Sadly, he appears to be just another spend money we don’t have politician.

[Concerned]

I thought I already answered your comment about "truth"  in the fog of war.   I've gotten the impression that if Trump said there were 5 million illegal alien voters,   and the "truth"  turned out to be 6 million,  you would say he "lied."   






Well that is highly amusing insofar as you think Obama's team doesn't play these legal misdirections to cover up their corrupt doings.   Obviously you didn't read the article to which I linked in my previous response,  (it covers this dodge) and I really didn't expect that you would anyways.   

My decision not to bother looking through my posting history to find the discussion about the illegal immigrants voting is validated.   Why should I put any effort into it if you will simply ignore something that you don't want to consider anyway?







Yes,  thank God that you are not like all of us publicans!

If Trump Tweeted there were 5M illegals and it turned out to be more, I wouldn’t say he lied. You’re wrong about that.

I did read your link. You’re wrong in concluding I didn’t.

I would gladly read your so-called proof that the statements I provided weren’t lies but were actually truthful by the President. You’re wrong to conclude otherwise. Perhaps not surprisingly though,  you refuse to provide them.

[XenaLee]

ESPN suspends Jemele Hill for social media ‘violation’






http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/espn-suspends-jemele-hill-for-social-media-violation/


She can call Trump a "White Supremacist",  and this media corporation will ignore it,    but you gotta be really stupid to suggest a boycott of an NFL team when you work for a company that makes it's money by supposedly reporting on sports.   


That is some kinda stupid,  and she wouldn't have been provoked to it without Trump's agitating.

Without Trump being elected, she would still have been 'agitated'.  Like most leftist morons, they are always agitated, angry and bitching about something.  It just wouldn't be this obvious what they're angry about (leftists not being in total and complete control).

[XenaLee]

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the President to have class..

Ah... but you must embrace the reality that .... alas, we are in the perma-era of lowered expectations now.  In every aspect of our nation, in fact...but especially in government.  And you can thank Barack Hussein Obama and all of the leftist morons that voted for him for that.

[LateForLunch]

Heres the Tweet I’m referencing:

“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

I was imprecise in my comments. Thanks for the correction. My apologies.

The point I was trying to make and was apparently rather in artful in making, is that Obama did NOT personally “had (his) “wires tapped” in Trump Tower”.  A FISA Court approved a request by the FBI to wiretap Manafort. That’s completely different than the assertion made by the President. Of course, had he Tweeted “the Obama Administration.... “ it would have had a completely different meaning. I believe he was probably intentionally pointing the finger at the former President himself rather than his Administration and by doing so, his actual Tweet was obviously false as many of the things he Tweets and says are.

I’m far from a Leftist. I’m about as fiscally conservative as they come and wish the President would reduce the debt rather than add to it.  Sadly, he appears to be just another spend money we don’t have politician.

Fairly spoken. However, the application of government force (intruding into private communications) has the added dimension of being subject to abuse. The fact that Rice's requests apparently went into high gear (to put it mildly) concurrent with the nomination of an opposition candidates ascension to presidential election.

Asking people to believe the extraordinary yea, historically-prolific demand for unmasking by Rice et al had absolutely nothing to do with politics or immoral intentions is so outside credibility that it's patently ludicrous.

I am frankly astonished that any fair-minded person who claims to possess objectivity or intellectual integrity would seriously put such a notion forward with a straight face.

The Eightball Obama's highest ranking people used government power to spy on the president's party's worst enemies proximo to that party's taking over the reigns of government.

Stinque. To High Heaven. Continue to deny it if you'd like, but the political damage of continuing to insist that there is nothing suspicious inherent in any of this will be a political loser forever.

So by all means, continue.

[txradioguy]

I guess Jemele Hill will tell all her followers on Twitter to boycott the advertisers for ALL of the NFL teams now that the Commish is saying players will stand for the anthem.