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Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« on: October 04, 2017, 03:50:00 pm »
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Stephen Paddock, who killed at least 58 people and wounded hundreds more in Las Vegas on Sunday with high-powered rifles, was prescribed an anti-anxiety drug in June that can lead to aggressive behavior, the Las Vegas Review-Journal has learned.......

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/


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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 03:51:12 pm »
Diazepam side effects



    confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior;

    unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger;

    depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself;

    hyperactivity, agitation, aggression, hostility;

    new or worsening seizures;

    weak or shallow breathing, a feeling like you might pass out;

    muscle twitching, tremor;

    loss of bladder control; or

    little or no urinating.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 03:51:51 pm »
aka Valium.

I thought that just chilled you out? It's regularly prescribed before surgery as an anti-anxiety drug.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 04:11:09 pm »
aka Valium.

I thought that just chilled you out? It's regularly prescribed before surgery as an anti-anxiety drug.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 04:13:23 pm »
Valium is a benzodiazepine which is a hypnotic/sedative. Some people have a paradoxical reaction which can include aggression.

Typical or Occasional Effects of Valium:
•Sedation
•Slowed breathing and heart rate
•Memory loss
•Slower movements
•Drowsiness
•Poor concentration
•Lack of coordination
•Muscle weakness
•Vertigo
•Possibly slower reaction time and impaired driving skills

Some people who take this type of drug for a long time lose their ability to focus their attention for a sustained period or accurately judge distances and spaces.

Paradoxical Effects

A paradoxical effect is one that should be eliminated by use of the drug but instead, it shows up stronger when the drug is used. With Valium, these effects can include fits of rage or violence, aggression, excitement, irritability and hostility. A person may lose control of his impulses which can lead to anti-social behavior, especially among the very young and elderly. Some people may consider suicide. Others may become emotionally blunted.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 04:18:12 pm »
Valium is a benzodiazepine which is a hypnotic/sedative. Some people have a paradoxical reaction which can include aggression.

Typical or Occasional Effects of Valium:
•Sedation
•Slowed breathing and heart rate
•Memory loss
•Slower movements
•Drowsiness
•Poor concentration
•Lack of coordination
•Muscle weakness
•Vertigo
•Possibly slower reaction time and impaired driving skills

Some people who take this type of drug for a long time lose their ability to focus their attention for a sustained period or accurately judge distances and spaces.

Paradoxical Effects

A paradoxical effect is one that should be eliminated by use of the drug but instead, it shows up stronger when the drug is used. With Valium, these effects can include fits of rage or violence, aggression, excitement, irritability and hostility. A person may lose control of his impulses which can lead to anti-social behavior, especially among the very young and elderly. Some people may consider suicide. Others may become emotionally blunted.

Taking weeks to plan this atrocity is not 'impulsive'.   No, I think he was just a crazy bitter old man who wanted to get back at the world for not getting french fries that one time in the 3rd grade. 
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 04:28:51 pm »
Taking weeks to plan this atrocity is not 'impulsive'.   No, I think he was just a crazy bitter old man who wanted to get back at the world for not getting french fries that one time in the 3rd grade.

If the stories are true (on the Starbucks article) how he treated his girlfriend in public, it sounds like he was a real SOB. Wouldn't take much for someone like that to completely snap.

Plus it seems it runs in the family re his father.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2017, 04:36:26 pm »
If the stories are true (on the Starbucks article) how he treated his girlfriend in public, it sounds like he was a real SOB. Wouldn't take much for someone like that to completely snap.

Plus it seems it runs in the family re his father.

His brother is acting sketchy too.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2017, 04:46:44 pm »
Taking weeks to plan this atrocity is not 'impulsive'.   No, I think he was just a crazy bitter old man who wanted to get back at the world for not getting french fries that one time in the 3rd grade.

I think you're a lot closer than many. 

Or just plain selfish without empathy, who wanted a thrill of it. 
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 04:50:59 pm »
I think you're a lot closer than many. 

Or just plain selfish without empathy, who wanted a thrill of it.

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I heard on the radio this morning that an gambling buddy of his has made statements that his behavior when drinking was quite bad.   He said  one time he was drunk and blurted out that he wished he could just kill his mother for inflicting life upon him.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 04:51:35 pm »
His brother is acting sketchy too.

I'm not sure if the brother is sketchy or maybe he doesn't really know anything about Stephen.  I grew up in a very close knit family and most of us are still very close in adulthood.  But I've found that far too many families either just don't keep in touch or they are estranged.  I wonder how often these two brothers saw each other.    There may be a lot about Stephen that his brother just simply isn't aware of.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2017, 05:08:51 pm »
I found that long speil by the brother to be very wierd.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2017, 05:14:00 pm »
I'm not sure if the brother is sketchy or maybe he doesn't really know anything about Stephen.  I grew up in a very close knit family and most of us are still very close in adulthood.  But I've found that far too many families either just don't keep in touch or they are estranged.  I wonder how often these two brothers saw each other.    There may be a lot about Stephen that his brother just simply isn't aware of.

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I wasn't really referring to the lack of contact that seemed to be apparent.   Even accounting for grief and shock and those things the brother just seems to be a little weird.  Like he was close to the edge himself.    Hate to be judgmental considering he had nothing to do with it but it just seems that way to me.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2017, 06:59:47 pm »
Diazepam side effects



    confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior;

    unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger;

    depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself;

    hyperactivity, agitation, aggression, hostility;

    new or worsening seizures;

    weak or shallow breathing, a feeling like you might pass out;

    muscle twitching, tremor;

    loss of bladder control; or

    little or no urinating.

Not sure where you pulled all of that but I highly doubt that it is a legitimate list and does not match side affects listed on the web.
Most of us know someone on this medication, as it is prescribed to millions. Probably even members of TBR. People that would on their worse day never dream of doing what this monster did.   medication is often done too fast - -
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2017, 07:22:11 pm »
Not sure where you pulled all of that but I highly doubt that it is a legitimate list and does not match side affects listed on the web.
Most of us know someone on this medication, as it is prescribed to millions. Probably even members of TBR. People that would on their worse day never dream of doing what this monster did.   medication is often done too fast - -

Here you go: https://www.drugs.com/diazepam.html

It is almost identical to the NIH official list of side effects for it> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMHT0009907/?report=details

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2017, 07:28:03 pm »
I found that long speil by the brother to be very weird.

Is it just me, or does he remind anyone else of Kevin Rayburn from Bloodline, with his histrionics?
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2017, 07:37:59 pm »
I'm thinking the prescription is made-up entirely.

Liberal "incrementalism".....anybody that has ever been prescribed anxiety/depression meds cannot purchase/possess a gun.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2017, 07:41:02 pm »
His brother is acting sketchy too.

I didn't see that as 'sketchy'... I see that as distraught. You are seeing the guy at a rather inopportune time.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2017, 07:45:48 pm »
I'm thinking the prescription is made-up entirely.

Liberal "incrementalism".....anybody that has ever been prescribed anxiety/depression meds cannot purchase/possess a gun.

That is a false statement.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2017, 07:50:05 pm »
My wife has needed to have a number of surgical procedures and they have given her valium before all of them. Just made her loopy.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2017, 07:50:16 pm »
I didn't see that as 'sketchy'... I see that as distraught. You are seeing the guy at a rather inopportune time.

I have to agree.  He was clear they were not close.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2017, 07:51:13 pm »
I didn't see that as 'sketchy'... I see that as distraught. You are seeing the guy at a rather inopportune time.

Yeah - but you issue one statement saying you're devastated, can't comprehend a motive, will offer any assistance to investigators you can, and ask for privacy.  This guy keeps coming out again and again to speak with reporters.  It's odd.....to me, anyway.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2017, 07:52:48 pm »
I'm thinking the prescription is made-up entirely.

Liberal "incrementalism".....anybody that has ever been prescribed anxiety/depression meds cannot purchase/possess a gun.

I suspect you are likely thinking of:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx

Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”

Not the same as prescribed any anxiety medicine:

http://www.anxieties.com/152/introduction-common-medications-for-anxiety-disorders#.WdU7GWhSw2w

Some of the medicines have unrelated other uses, such as treating high blood pressure.
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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2017, 07:53:17 pm »
That is a false statement.

I think DC meant that is where this is going and how Dems will use this.

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Re: Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2017, 07:53:31 pm »
I'm thinking the prescription is made-up entirely.

Liberal "incrementalism".....anybody that has ever been prescribed anxiety/depression meds cannot purchase/possess a gun.

If that were true, it would affect many millions of people... present company included. 
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