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    Jonathan Swan 5 hrs ago

Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls



President Trump may say he's a defender of gun ownership rights, but with all the gun control pressure he'll be under after Las Vegas, how do we know he'll resist it — especially after the debt limit deal with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, and his flirtation with a deal on DACA?

Bottom line: Trump's allies, both inside and out of the White House, are mostly sure he'll resist because he owes too much to the NRA and its supporters — but even some of them aren't 100 percent sure.
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What they're saying: Since the Las Vegas shooting, we've spoken or texted with more than 20 sources inside and out of the White House — all people who've worked close enough to Trump to have something useful to say about his likely next moves. Most say they can't imagine him doing a Chuck-and-Nancy deal on gun control.

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2017, 02:43:37 pm »
If he does I'll join the impeachment club.
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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 02:53:30 pm »
If he does I'll join the impeachment club.

So will I.

I will not be disarmed while the left becomes more and more violent.

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2017, 02:54:40 pm »
My bet he will cowtow to a couple, like how many guns can be owned or some type of device which allows conversion to fully automatic.
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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 02:54:58 pm »
Bannon sure is enamored with the sound of his own voice. 

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 02:56:43 pm »
If he does I'll join the impeachment club.

You wont be the only one
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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2017, 02:58:23 pm »
Energy would be better spent aiming the political threats at Ryan and McConnell.

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 03:02:13 pm »
Energy would be better spent aiming the political threats at Ryan and McConnell.

Trump would have to be the one to sign any legislation.  There would not be enough votes to override a veto on this.  Trump is more important on this issue than Ryan or McConnell.
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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2017, 03:05:34 pm »
Bannon sure is enamored with the sound of his own voice.

How so?

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 03:08:08 pm »
Trump would have to be the one to sign any legislation.  There would not be enough votes to override a veto on this.  Trump is more important on this issue than Ryan or McConnell.

We should know better than to trust anyone in DC. Keep pressure on all of them.

You are right, in this case Trump is the key guy.

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 03:10:09 pm »
We should know better than to trust anyone in DC. Keep pressure on all of them.

You are right, in this case Trump is the key guy.

Yep its easier to stop it before it gets started then waste time hoping its veto'd.
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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2017, 03:11:03 pm »
Trump would have to be the one to sign any legislation.  There would not be enough votes to override a veto on this.  Trump is more important on this issue than Ryan or McConnell.

Respectfully disagree .... if Ryan and McConnell produce a veto proof bill, the President is taken out of the picture.

Best to focus on McConnell at this point.

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 03:26:25 pm »
You wont be the only one

Not by a long shot!
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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2017, 03:40:50 pm »
This is one of the largest mass shootings this decade, and of course it's going to be an issue; the leftists in Congress refused to even bow their heads in silence!  A couple of things to consider on this:

In February Trump rolled back one of Bammy's  gun checks for people with mental illness. 

Back in June, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review a California law restricting concealed carry permits.  Both judges Thomas and Gorsuch , said the court should have reviewed the appellate ruling. Thomas said the decision not to hear the case "reflects a distressing trend: the treatment of the Second Amendment as a disfavored right."

The last 2nd Amendment case that SCOTUS heard was D.C. v. Heller in 2008 (thank you Ted Cruz). Prior to that, the last time the Supreme Court interpreted the Second Amendment was in United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939).

Right now, I think a lot is going to depend on what Trump, and Ryan do.  If they pander to the left and call for gun restriction reviews or assign committees, I think we're going to see a very long drawn out court battle.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/26/us-supreme-court-declines-to-take-up-2nd-amendment-case-look-at-california-law.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2017, 03:41:16 pm »
Respectfully disagree .... if Ryan and McConnell produce a veto proof bill, the President is taken out of the picture.

Best to focus on McConnell at this point.

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if Ryan and McConnell produce ...

Like that's going to happen.

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Re: Bannon warns: "end of everything" if Trump supports gun controls
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2017, 03:47:58 pm »
Respectfully disagree .... if Ryan and McConnell produce a veto proof bill, the President is taken out of the picture.

Best to focus on McConnell at this point.

If those two bumblers could produce a veto proof bill we are lost anyway.  But we should focus on all of them.  No one gets off the hook
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