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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #575 on: October 03, 2017, 01:31:23 am »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #576 on: October 03, 2017, 01:32:10 am »
That looks totally different from the first pictures shown.  I wonder if it is a recent photo.

Just do the "Enhance" trick from TV, and you could see the answer on that calendar.
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« Reply #577 on: October 03, 2017, 01:32:56 am »
That looks totally different from the first pictures shown.  I wonder if it is a recent photo.

I remember when he hit the game winning homer in the first game of the 1988 World Series.
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« Reply #578 on: October 03, 2017, 01:33:30 am »
   He looks 10 years younger in that pic @Emjay the eyes wide shut photo is probably the most current.
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« Reply #579 on: October 03, 2017, 01:34:12 am »
@Applewood

I think I remember that.

I'd post a link, but I don't want to trash up the thread with Obama.

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« Reply #580 on: October 03, 2017, 01:35:02 am »
While his delivery may leave a lot to be desired.... he may have a point.  Has anyone noticed how 'south' things have gone since that last eclipse?  The timeline...  (approximately from recollection)...

Eclipse                                8/21/17
Hurricane Harvey                8/26/17
Chiapas Mex Earthquake 8.1    9/7/17
Hurricane Irma                        9/11/17
Hurricane Maria                        9/20/17
N. Korea nuke test                9/23/17
Oaxaca Mex Earthquake        9/23/17
Las Vegas shooter                10/1/17


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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #581 on: October 03, 2017, 01:35:41 am »
I remember when he hit the game winning homer in the first game of the 1988 World Series.

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« Reply #582 on: October 03, 2017, 01:37:48 am »
I was watching a show over the weekend that the outer planets are exhibiting higher luminescence. Which means that the entire solar system is heating up. So global warming is (solar) system-wide.

My point with this shooting is it should come as no surprise. And I care on a level that is deeper than overt dismay. I've studied this. Whatever the shooter's final straw was may never be known. But there are a lot of people in this country, particularly aging white men who are being increasingly disenfranchised.

There has been a concerted effort over the last, at least two decades, to divide, to tribalize, our society. I have tried to tell you here and there that there is a better way. And it starts with each one of you.

The chickens are coming home to roost. I will make a prediction, hopefully wrong, that there will be instances of martial law called for in test cases coming soon.

What EDPC said about a sedated, obliviated, oppressed citizenry is here.

I will tell you a little secret. I get up at 2:30-3:a.m. because I can't stand the PTSD nightmares. You know the SOURCE? I was compliant once. I believed in the system ONCE. Never again.

I wouldn't be surprised about your prediction about martial law.

BUT,  please get help.  I'm not being sarcastic.
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« Reply #583 on: October 03, 2017, 01:39:21 am »
Thank you for that.

@Emjay

I just saw a clip from ABC News.  The caption on the screen read "Trump's Challenge." 

They were showing Obama singing "Amazing Grace."  I am not kidding.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #584 on: October 03, 2017, 01:44:15 am »
   Thanks @bigheadfred for taking the heat, again, She's usually instructing me to seek Psychiatric counseling.




   Got Tom Petty You Tube on loop most the day, feeling really melancholy with all the events today.
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« Reply #585 on: October 03, 2017, 01:45:55 am »
Trying to figure out where all these calls for more restrictive guns laws and blaming the NRA for mass murder were after the shooting in Antioch, Tennessee a couple weeks ago. Didn't hear a peep out of Hillary...no stupid tweets from ABC News reporters or execs at CBS. No hysterical hand wringing falsehoods about how America experiences "64 mass shootings a day". In fact the media and the usual gun grabbing suspects were mysteriously silent. Wonder why that is? Oh wait...that's right...
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« Reply #586 on: October 03, 2017, 01:46:59 am »
Trying to figure out where all these calls for more restrictive guns laws and blaming the NRA for mass murder were after the shooting in Antioch, Tennessee a couple weeks ago. Didn't hear a peep out of Hillary...no stupid tweets from ABC News reporters or execs at CBS. No hysterical hand wringing falsehoods about how America experiences "64 mass shootings a day". In fact the media and the usual gun grabbing suspects were mysteriously silent. Wonder why that is? Oh wait...that's right...

That's right.  I didn't notice that until you mentioned it.

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« Reply #587 on: October 03, 2017, 02:01:31 am »
Live update happening now.
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« Reply #588 on: October 03, 2017, 02:02:09 am »
23 weapons recovered at Mandalay Bay...18 so far at his house.
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« Reply #589 on: October 03, 2017, 02:04:43 am »
Todd R. Fasulo, Assistant Sheriff is the one at the podium for the LVMPD.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #590 on: October 03, 2017, 02:06:59 am »
23 weapons recovered at Mandalay Bay...18 so far at his house.

Just asking your opinion, and without taking the nature of this act into consideration so much, but would you take 23 weapons if you were operating alone?

I can see two shooting positions, two to 3 weapons at each, a pistol and a backup, puts me at eight weapons, tops. Then there is the question of different magazines for different weapons...and suddenly this whole thing seems a tad overcomplicated for a one man show.

Your thoughts?
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« Reply #591 on: October 03, 2017, 02:09:22 am »
Just asking your opinion, and without taking the nature of this act into consideration so much, but would you take 23 weapons if you were operating alone?

I can see two shooting positions, two to 3 weapons at each, a pistol and a backup, puts me at eight weapons, tops. Then there is the question of different magazines for different weapons...and suddenly this whole thing seems a tad overcomplicated for a one man show.

Your thoughts?

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Me personally?  No. 3-4 at most to account for the rifles getting hot from the continuous firing.  Rotate them let them cool. Two at each firing position.  Shoot reload, lay that weapon down...move to the second firing position.  Wash rinse repeat.

I'd have one sidearm for close quarters if and when the law enforcement people had me cornered.

But there's no way in hell I'd have 23 just for myself.
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« Reply #592 on: October 03, 2017, 02:15:21 am »
Some idiot reporter just asked if Jason Aldean should have told people to duck and asked if by not saying anything before he ran off stage more lives were lost.   *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #593 on: October 03, 2017, 02:18:58 am »
Some idiot reporter just asked if Jason Aldean should have told people to duck and asked if by not saying anything before he ran off stage more lives were lost.

Well – that's a no-win situation. If he had said duck, run, or take cover and then split, people would likely panic and stampede each other.  Then, they would blame him for that.   It would be drawing comparisons to the 1979 The Who concert in Cincinnati.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #594 on: October 03, 2017, 02:20:59 am »
Smokin' Joe wrote:
"Absence of a viable exit and escape strategy indicates either poor planning, failure to account for some factor (like smoke alarms pinpointing his location), poor execution, or the absence of desire to escape."

This guy had no intention of walking out of that room alive.

Although with all the obvious planning for his attack, it seems odd that he didn't "leave a manifesto" somewhere, a suicide note, something.

Perhaps he did, and the authorities have it, and are keeping quiet about its contents.

It's probably going to take another two-three days before "the wheat gets sorted from the chaff", before the facts come out and begin to line up.

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« Reply #595 on: October 03, 2017, 02:21:32 am »
Well – that's a no-win situation. If he had said duck, run, or take cover and then split, people would likely panic and stampede each other.  Then, they would blame him for that.

IIRC the crowd was already ducking down by the time he realized what was going on and hauled ass of the stage.
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« Reply #596 on: October 03, 2017, 02:24:04 am »
SWAT also conducting a search at a property the shooter owned in Reno as well as the one in Mesquite.

Assistant Sheriff seemed to indicate there was some kind of computer or media device in the hotel room...they are also going over hard drives seized in Mesquite.
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« Reply #597 on: October 03, 2017, 02:25:54 am »
Although with all the obvious planning for his attack, it seems odd that he didn't "leave a manifesto" somewhere, a suicide note, something.

Perhaps he did, and the authorities have it, and are keeping quiet about its contents.

It's probably going to take another two-three days before "the wheat gets sorted from the chaff", before the facts come out and begin to line up.

Yes, generally, people who do things like this have either told people they had dark intentions or have documented it in some fashion.  I'd be genuinely surprised if he did not have something on an electronic device or in a notebook in his house.
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« Reply #598 on: October 03, 2017, 02:26:38 am »
IIRC the crowd was already ducking down by the time he realized what was going on and hauled ass of the stage.
The shooter was through the first magazine (assuming a drum mag) before the band quit playing.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #599 on: October 03, 2017, 02:28:49 am »
There's been mixed reports on whether he killed himself prior to the police breaching his room or after.

If it was before then no one actually saw him commit the crime and there are many possibilities at play. I sure hope it was after.