Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay

[edpc]

Fred.....have a drink or take a Xanax – maybe try both.

[ABX]

Alex Jones on this.   Claims it's conspiracy by ISIS, etc. and assorted other actors.

If one listens to Alex Jones enough, one has to accept that there is an industry out there creating these false flags and events larger than most Fortune 10 companies, more competent than the Government on its best day could imagine, more secret than KFC's recipe, and more efficient than Amazon's shipping.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Perp still alive when room breached- he shot an officer in the leg, and then was killed.

Bet there was a hail of bullets directed his way from multiple guns.

Too bad he must have died quickly instead of painfully.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Aw Geez!  Now ABC is rehashing Obama's responses to prior mass killings.  The Obama worship at the networks is sickening.  All the idiot ever did after these shootings was make the case for more gun control.  No compassion for the dead and injured, no encouragement for a shocked nation.  Just politics, politics, politics.

The most important mass killing during his watch was the Fort Hood massacre, which he most certainly did not handle well. The perp remains alive.

[bigheadfred]

Dude...seriously...not the time for your stupid sh*t.

You may think you're funny right now...no one else is laughing.

Don't get  it do you? I ain't laughing. Pull your head out and LOOK AT ********* world for the way it it really is.

[txradioguy]

Don't get  it do you? I ain't laughing. Pull your head out and LOOK AT ***********world for the way it it really is.

Sorry I don't look at it from the same position of insanity that you do.

Nothing remotely appropriate about your behavior in this thread.

[DB]

Bet there was a hail of bullets directed his way from multiple guns.

Too bad he must have died quickly instead of painfully.

I'm glad they caught him in the act while still alive. That greatly eliminates (reality based logic anyway) many possible conspiracy theories. Otherwise just finding a dead body in the room leaves lots of space for other possibilities.

[XenaLee]

Sorry I don't look at it from the same position of insanity that you do.

Nothing remotely appropriate about your behavior in this thread.

While his delivery may leave a lot to be desired.... he may have a point.  Has anyone noticed how 'south' things have gone since that last eclipse?  The timeline...  (approximately from recollection)...

Eclipse                                8/21/17
Hurricane Harvey                8/26/17
Chiapas Mex Earthquake 8.1    9/7/17
Hurricane Irma                        9/11/17
Hurricane Maria                        9/20/17
N. Korea nuke test                9/23/17
Oaxaca Mex Earthquake        9/23/17
Las Vegas shooter                10/1/17


Talk about a "bad moon risin".....

[IsailedawayfromFR]

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/07/50_years_after_the_university.html

Thx, that never made the news in Austin that I recall.

[DB]

Sorry I don't look at it from the same position of insanity that you do.

Nothing remotely appropriate about your behavior in this thread.

I interpreted what Fred was saying as extreme sarcasm for a very dark situation, not humor. That's all I'll say...

[DB]

While his delivery may leave a lot to be desired.... he may have a point.  Has anyone noticed how 'south' things have gone since that last eclipse?  The timeline...  (approximately from recollection)...

Eclipse                                8/21/17
Hurricane Harvey                8/26/17
Chiapas Mex Earthquake 8.1    9/7/17
Hurricane Irma                        9/11/17
Hurricane Maria                        9/20/17
N. Korea nuke test                9/23/17
Oaxaca Mex Earthquake        9/23/17
Las Vegas shooter                10/1/17


Talk about a "bad moon risin".....

I'm worried about a major earthquake in California to top it all off... Just getting paranoid I guess...

[XenaLee]

I'm worried about a major earthquake in California to top it all off... Just getting paranoid I guess...

I'm right there with ya (paranoid), apparently.   Those lines that form an irregular "ring" seem to be extremely active lately.  It's making me nervous and I don't even live on the west coast.

[Polly Ticks]

photos of some of the victims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941508/First-victims-Las-Vegas-shooting-pictured.html

I find it hard to look at the photos of the victims, but I always feel compelled to do so.  They matter, so I will look at their faces and pray for their loved ones.

[DB]

I find it hard to look at the photos of the victims, but I always feel compelled to do so.  They matter, so I will look at their faces and pray for their loved ones.

I too feel obligated to look at their faces to remember them. That their lives were more than just a statistic in the news. My brother in law's best friend's wife died last night at this event.

[chae]

@XenaLee


Honestly, I'm expecting Yellowstone to blow any day now.

[bigheadfred]

I was watching a show over the weekend that the outer planets are exhibiting higher luminescence. Which means that the entire solar system is heating up. So global warming is (solar) system-wide.

My point with this shooting is it should come as no surprise. And I care on a level that is deeper than overt dismay. I've studied this. Whatever the shooter's final straw was may never be known. But there are a lot of people in this country, particularly aging white men who are being increasingly disenfranchised.

There has been a concerted effort over the last, at least two decades, to divide, to tribalize, our society. I have tried to tell you here and there that there is a better way. And it starts with each one of you.

The chickens are coming home to roost. I will make a prediction, hopefully wrong, that there will be instances of martial law called for in test cases coming soon.

What EDPC said about a sedated, obliviated, oppressed citizenry is here.

I will tell you a little secret. I get up at 2:30-3:a.m. because I can't stand the PTSD nightmares. You know the SOURCE? I was compliant once. I believed in the system ONCE. Never again.

[jpsb]

@XenaLee


Honestly, I'm expecting Yellowstone to blow any day now.

@chae very unlikely Yellow Stone will blow (super eruption) any time soon. Signs of an eminent eruption are just not there. However @DB earthquake is over due and the Mexican quakes make a Cali quake more likely.

[DB]

@chae very unlikely Yellow Stone will blow (super eruption) any time soon. Signs of an eminent eruption are just not there. However @DB earthquake is over due and the Mexican quakes make a Cali quake more likely.

Yep...

[Bigun]

I was watching a show over the weekend that the outer planets are exhibiting higher luminescence. Which means that the entire solar system is heating up. So global warming is (solar) system-wide.

My point with this shooting is it should come as no surprise. And I care on a level that is deeper than overt dismay. I've studied this. Whatever the shooter's final straw was may never be known. But there are a lot of people in this country, particularly aging white men who are being increasingly disenfranchised.

There has been a concerted effort over the last, at least two decades, to divide, to tribalize, our society. I have tried to tell you here and there that there is a better way. And it starts with each one of you.

The chickens are coming home to roost. I will make a prediction, hopefully wrong, that there will be instances of martial law called for in test cases coming soon.

What EDPC said about a sedated, obliviated, oppressed citizenry is here.

I will tell you a little secret. I get up at 2:30-3:a.m. because I can't stand the PTSD nightmares. You know the SOURCE? I was compliant once. I believed in the system ONCE. Never again.

Hang in there, Fred!  YOU are not alone!  Not by a damned sight!

[edpc]

@chae very unlikely Yellow Stone will blow (super eruption) any time soon. Signs of an eminent eruption are just not there. However @DB earthquake is over due and the Mexican quakes make a Cali quake more likely.

Don't forget New Madrid.  I'm on the edge of its zone.

[Suppressed]

They don't like to point out bookstore manager Allen Crum's role of going up the tower with the police and being first out the door at the top with Officer Martinez.  He fired a shot that distracted Whitman and allowed Officers Martinez and McCoy to come up on Whitman from the other side and get him.  Martinez gave Crum credit for saving his life, as Whitman was ready to ambush Martinez until hearing the shot from the other direction.

Good article on it:
The Armed Civilian Who Helped Stop UT’s Tower Sniper 50 Years Ago
https://apps.texastribune.org/guns-on-campus/allen-crum-helped-stop-ut-tower-shooter-charles-whitman/

Crum turned toward the west, while Martinez headed north on the east side. In his report to police, Crum said he heard footsteps crunching on the chipped limestone on the west side of the deck. He fired a shot straight into the corner wall. But no one rounded the corner.

And even CBS Austin reported it...

Climbing three short flights of stairs they found the dead, dying and wounded.

"That's when Allen Crum said, "Are we playing for keeps?" recounted Martinez. “And I said, damn right we are."

The civilian then told Martinez, “Well, you’d better deputize me.”

Martinez did and by the time they reached the 30th floor, the men knew the parts they needed to play in this tragedy.

The pair split up, each going after Whitman from a different direction.

"Of course I was (crouched) down and when I looked around the corner I saw the sniper. He was sitting, aiming his rifle in that direction," said Martinez.

Martinez needed a distraction and he thinks his life was saved by what happened next.

"Allen Crum, a civilian, was over there with a rifle. He didn't know how to operate that rifle, so a round went off and it hit the wall," said Martinez.

It diverted Whitman's attention and gave Martinez a chance to strike.

[TomSea]

I think @XenaLee  is correct in bringing this matter up; I've certainly thought about those hurricanes.
 

My condolences to your acquaintances @DB .

[txradioguy]

Don't forget New Madrid.  I'm on the edge of its zone.

I heard the next time that one lets loose the Mississippi could shift so much it will flow through Texas.  The last earthquake on that fault from what I've read changed the course of the river to what we know it today.

[chae]

@edpc

I'm about 3 hours north of St Louis, so I'm very aware of New Madrid

[Emjay]

The gun shops where he purchased some of the weapons have been located and interviewed. He passed background checks. Semi-auto and shotguns.  Probably not the guns used though.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/two-nevada-gun-shops-say-stephen-paddock-passed-background-checks-n806921?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

Also, new picture of the perp.

That looks totally different from the first pictures shown.  I wonder if it is a recent photo.