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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #500 on: October 02, 2017, 10:35:16 pm »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #501 on: October 02, 2017, 10:36:08 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on October 02, 2017, 10:31:00 pm
Here you go.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/11/26/setting-nfa-gun-trust/

Does that allow you to purchase new manufacture or just the pre-1986 ones made out of solid gold.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #502 on: October 02, 2017, 10:37:56 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 10:36:08 pm
Does that allow you to purchase new manufacture or just the pre-1986 ones made out of solid gold.

Just pre 86 eligible for transfer that already has the stamp. It also is a great way to protect and acquire C&R firearms (curio and relic, aka antiques and vintage military (WWII and prior)).

Post 86 is virtually impossible to do legally.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #503 on: October 02, 2017, 10:39:12 pm »
per presser 16 guns  in hotel room, 18 at Mesquite home, explosives found in his car and in Mesquite, going to breach North Nevada home soon. Also "electronic devices" found- no details.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #504 on: October 02, 2017, 10:40:35 pm »
Perp still alive when room breached- he shot an officer in the leg, and then was killed.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #505 on: October 02, 2017, 10:41:45 pm »

I avoided videos of the massacre (I never want to look), but this evening I started the car and on the radio were the sounds of screams, machine gun fire, chaos. And I listened. Maybe two or three minutes I was frozen listening to the sound of human terror. It was enough, I turned it off.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #506 on: October 02, 2017, 10:45:05 pm »
Quote from: edpc on October 02, 2017, 10:29:55 pm
Except I was responding specifically to a post as to why some place evil and insanity in the same category.  So - yes, really.
Sorry, I misinterpreted you. Evil can be completely rational, its objectives are just diametrically different from what we accept as 'good', but it can set and pursue those objectives with completely rational diabolical sanity. Neither Al Capone nor Ochoa were insane, but they were diabolical; they were evil by our standards--just not necessarily by theirs. Even the Unabomber had a rational framework for his actions, as wrong as it was. .

On the other hand, guys like Hinkley, out to get a date with Jodie Foster by shooting Ronald Reagan, now that's nuts.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #507 on: October 02, 2017, 10:45:55 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on October 02, 2017, 06:40:52 pm
Also, let's not forget Wounded Knee.
That was an act of war, not a mass shooting.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #508 on: October 02, 2017, 10:46:50 pm »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #509 on: October 02, 2017, 10:53:53 pm »
Quote from: austingirl on October 02, 2017, 10:39:12 pm
per presser 16 guns  in hotel room, 18 at Mesquite home, explosives found in his car and in Mesquite, going to breach North Nevada home soon. Also "electronic devices" found- no details.

Image from this article in the Daily Mail:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941508/First-victims-Las-Vegas-shooting-pictured.html
« Last Edit: October 02, 2017, 11:02:36 pm by Smokin Joe »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #510 on: October 02, 2017, 10:54:40 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on October 02, 2017, 10:45:55 pm
That was an act of war, not a mass shooting.
That depends on whether you were one of the women and children and elders or one of the brave soldiers.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #511 on: October 02, 2017, 11:03:19 pm »
He made a platform  a perch, so he could shot down on the crowd..per Fox
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #512 on: October 02, 2017, 11:07:56 pm »
Quote from: austingirl on October 02, 2017, 10:40:35 pm
Perp still alive when room breached- he shot an officer in the leg, and then was killed.

Per fox it was a security guard that he shot and not a cop.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #513 on: October 02, 2017, 11:11:06 pm »
Aw Geez!  Now ABC is rehashing Obama's responses to prior mass killings.  The Obama worship at the networks is sickening.  All the idiot ever did after these shootings was make the case for more gun control.  No compassion for the dead and injured, no encouragement for a shocked nation.  Just politics, politics, politics.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #514 on: October 02, 2017, 11:12:21 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 11:07:56 pm
Per fox it was a security guard that he shot and not a cop.

There was an off-duty policeman at the concert who was killed.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #515 on: October 02, 2017, 11:15:41 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 02, 2017, 10:35:16 pm
photos of some of the victims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941508/First-victims-Las-Vegas-shooting-pictured.html

@mystery-ak

Thrown away like their lives were nothing but garbage.  It makes you want to sit down and just weep.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #516 on: October 02, 2017, 11:17:17 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 11:11:06 pm
Aw Geez!  Now ABC is rehashing Obama's responses to prior mass killings.  The Obama worship at the networks is sickening.  All the idiot ever did after these shootings was make the case for more gun control.  No compassion for the dead and injured, no encouragement for a shocked nation.  Just politics, politics, politics.
That's an Alinskyite for you. Never let a crisis go to waste.

People aren't people to them, just numbers, pawns, and poster children.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #517 on: October 02, 2017, 11:19:10 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 02, 2017, 10:45:05 pm

On the other hand, guys like Hinkley, out to get a date with Jodie Foster by shooting Ronald Reagan, now that's nuts.

No more nuts, than Hinkley now set free.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #519 on: October 02, 2017, 11:19:51 pm »
The shooter owned two planes, worked as an apartment manager at one point, worked as an auditor at Lockheed. I heard someone say he made a lot in real estate but I haven't seen that confirmed. It sure makes one wonder.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #520 on: October 02, 2017, 11:22:08 pm »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on October 02, 2017, 11:19:34 pm

Sometimes it is safer to leave the bullet than remove it. Hats off to the gentleman.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #521 on: October 02, 2017, 11:24:14 pm »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on October 02, 2017, 11:15:41 pm
@mystery-ak

Thrown away like their lives were nothing but garbage.  It makes you want to sit down and just weep.

I already have...
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #522 on: October 02, 2017, 11:26:00 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 02, 2017, 11:22:08 pm
Sometimes it is safer to leave the bullet than remove it. Hats off to the gentleman.

@Smokin Joe

Yes, that's true.  That's the picture of a real hero.  Knew he could be gunned down at any second but was willing to risk himself for strangers.
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« Reply #524 on: October 02, 2017, 11:27:26 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 11:11:06 pm
Aw Geez!  Now ABC is rehashing Obama's responses to prior mass killings.  The Obama worship at the networks is sickening.  All the idiot ever did after these shootings was make the case for more gun control.  No compassion for the dead and injured, no encouragement for a shocked nation.  Just politics, politics, politics.

@Applewood

Did they mention his shout-out after the Fort Hood killings?  I'm willing to bet they didn't.
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