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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #450 on: October 02, 2017, 08:53:02 pm »
Cavuto interviewed a witness and said the shooting lasted 10 to 12 mins...

Simple explanation is simply that some are reporting how long the actual shooting lasted, others are reporting how long from when it started until the police declared it all clear. (ie, how long shots were heard versus how long until it was determined there was no longer a danger).

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #451 on: October 02, 2017, 08:53:33 pm »
Cavuto interviewed a witness and said the shooting lasted 10 to 12 mins...

Along time to shoot when no one is firing back at you.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #452 on: October 02, 2017, 08:54:35 pm »
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Anyone with training would have used bursts.   They'll probably find a lot of bullets impacted well beyond the concert area as his barrel rose.  still he didn't have to be very accurate.  The number of wounded indicate he was able to control the weapon.  maybe he had it strapped down.

Hard to believe someone didn't pick up a clue he was going to do this.

His target was a rectangle below. Aim lower left corner, pull trigger. Weapon goes up and right.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #453 on: October 02, 2017, 08:55:01 pm »
I've heard conflicting reports that this guy was in a bunch of anti-Trump groups, is that true?

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #454 on: October 02, 2017, 08:55:25 pm »
Indeed.  The Liberals have forgotten that there are times in life where they need to STFU with the political drumbeat and act like decent human beings.

But right now that seems like a bar too high for them to reach.

I'm just wishing that they would someday let the FACT that guns are inanimate objects which cannot do a damned thing by themselves! soak into their thick skulls!
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #455 on: October 02, 2017, 08:57:50 pm »
I'm just wishing that they would someday let the FACT that guns are inanimate objects which cannot do a damned thing by themselves! soak into their thick skulls!

That will never happen.  They have to make them living breathing evil animate objects in order to push their gun grabbing agenda.

I've got 6 guns in my house right now in various locations and at no time have I ever gotten up in the middle of the night and found them wandering the house on their own looking for a target.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #456 on: October 02, 2017, 08:58:24 pm »
I've heard conflicting reports that this guy was in a bunch of anti-Trump groups, is that true?

I haven't seen anything official on that. However, there was a name falsely reported this morning that was in a lot of anti-Trump groups, but it wasn't the shooter. It was the ex-husband of someone who was married to a woman with a similar name as the shooter's girlfriend.

Not even a true 6 degree of separation, just started by internet sleuths digging up the wrong person.

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« Reply #457 on: October 02, 2017, 08:58:48 pm »
AP has tweeted that his brother says that he was a multi-millionaire real estate investor.  ???

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« Reply #458 on: October 02, 2017, 08:59:41 pm »
AP has tweeted that his brother says that he was a multi-millionaire real estate investor.  ???

Explains owning a couple of aircraft, Alaska hunting trips, and high roller status in Vegas.

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« Reply #459 on: October 02, 2017, 09:01:17 pm »
Explains owning a couple of aircraft, Alaska hunting trips, and high roller status in Vegas.

Which isn't good enough for him so he has to open fire and kill a bunch of innocent people?

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« Reply #460 on: October 02, 2017, 09:03:39 pm »
Cavuto interviewed a witness and said the shooting lasted 10 to 12 mins...

Maybe it was 72 minuets between commencement of fire and when the shooter assumed room temperature?

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« Reply #461 on: October 02, 2017, 09:04:58 pm »
Maybe it was 72 minuets between commencement of fire and when the shooter assumed room temperature?

Or, maybe it was 27 minutes. 

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« Reply #462 on: October 02, 2017, 09:05:12 pm »
Maybe it was 72 minuets between commencement of fire and when the shooter assumed room temperature?

More than likely time from the shooting started until the all clear was called.  Even though they had one shooter at room temp they had to make sure there weren't more.
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« Reply #463 on: October 02, 2017, 09:18:20 pm »
I've got 6 guns in my house right now in various locations and at no time have I ever gotten up in the middle of the night and found them wandering the house on their own looking for a target.

Well, I did see two attack Marylin Manson this weekend.
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« Reply #464 on: October 02, 2017, 09:20:43 pm »
Well, I did see two attack Marylin Manson this weekend.

Well have you ever seen him? LOL!  He's a scary looking dude.
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« Reply #465 on: October 02, 2017, 09:22:54 pm »
Fox confirming one of the weapons was an AR-15 modified to fire fully automatic.
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« Reply #466 on: October 02, 2017, 09:22:59 pm »
Now comes the really difficult part, when we "meet" those killed by this madman---all innocent:

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JUST IN: California woman identified as second victim killed in #LasVegas mass shooting. http://bit.ly/2ykFzYm



Now that is just heart breaking.
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« Reply #467 on: October 02, 2017, 09:24:14 pm »
Maybe it was 72 minutes between commencement of fire and when the shooter assumed room temperature?

Quite possible.  The North Hollywood bank robbery incident lasted 44 mins as a running shootout, in daylight, with identified suspects.  Factor nighttime, confusion, assessment, and positioning - that could take a lot of time.
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« Reply #468 on: October 02, 2017, 09:25:42 pm »
Fox confirming one of the weapons was an AR-15 modified to fire fully automatic.

At this point, I wouldn't believe anything having to do with modification of weaponry.    They all have one single agenda.  Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
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« Reply #469 on: October 02, 2017, 09:28:12 pm »
You know someone is going to claim these weapons were modified with parts from an Airsoft gun.
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« Reply #470 on: October 02, 2017, 09:35:34 pm »
Interesting story John Rich giving that visiting cop his gun to secure the front door of the bar.
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« Reply #471 on: October 02, 2017, 09:40:24 pm »
Interesting story John Rich giving that visiting cop his gun to secure the front door of the bar.

Wait - what?

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« Reply #472 on: October 02, 2017, 09:45:21 pm »
Wait - what?

The story that John Rich just relayed on Fox News was that an off duty policeman from Minnesota was in the bar Rich owns just down from the Mandalay while the shooting was going on...showed his badge and said "this is awkward but for the first time in my life I don't have my gun on me are you armed?"

Rich replied that he was...and showed the cop his permit.

The cop then proceeded to ask Rich if he could use his gun to secure the front of the bar.

Rich handed it over and said the cop was there for a couple hours providing security at the entrance to the bar until the all clear was given.
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« Reply #473 on: October 02, 2017, 09:50:19 pm »
The story that John Rich just relayed on Fox News was that an off duty policeman from Minnesota was in the bar Rich owns just down from the Mandalay while the shooting was going on...showed his badge and said "this is awkward but for the first time in my life I don't have my gun on me are you armed?"

Rich replied that he was...and showed the cop his permit.

The cop then proceeded to ask Rich if he could use his gun to secure the front of the bar.

Rich handed it over and said the cop was there for a couple hours providing security at the entrance to the bar until the all clear was given.

Good story.

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« Reply #474 on: October 02, 2017, 09:55:09 pm »
Fox confirming one of the weapons was an AR-15 modified to fire fully automatic.

On another board, people were saying that a poorly done conversion will result in the "variable ROF" noted by some. Is that true?
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