Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy
   And while full auto is fun its not all that useful unless you are in close quarter combat.

@driftdiver it's almost impossible to hold down an AK-47 and keep the muzzle from jumping up if it's on full auto.

Tried a few times with some captured ones in Iraq.

[ABX]

In the comments below the video on youtube, someone identifies this woman as his estranged wife. 
She does look similar to the woman next to him in the video, but it's impossible to say if that is her for sure.

https://twitter.com/pattipaddock

I don't believe that is her real twitter. This happens all the time. If you right click on the profile image and look at the properties, that profile image was just updated recently today.
It is also easy to change the handle of a twitter account. Happens during all of these events. Trolls have a bunch of fake accounts and when something like this happens, they change the account to look like someone related to the event.  Also, I can't find a record of that twitter handle before today in archive search. It probably was just changed today.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Talk about connecting dots, wasn't OJ released at about the same time? 
Wasn't he in a Nevada prison? 
Wasn't he apprehended in Las Vegas and holds a grudge for them?
Wasn't he caught with a gun? 
Doesn't he hate country music?

Oh, I see he missed being a suspect for a few hours.

Back to the message boards.....

[ABX]

Talk about connecting dots, wasn't OJ released at about the same time? 
Wasn't he in a Nevada prison? 
Wasn't he apprehended in Las Vegas and holds a grudge for them?
Wasn't he caught with a gun? 
Doesn't he hate country music?

Oh, I see he missed being a suspect for a few hours.

Back to the message boards.....

LOL, don't give the TOS types any ideas.

[240B]

It is that twinge.


When I heard that gunfire, all I wanted was get into that building. Find the guy. And kill him.


How many of us wanted to run toward that gunfire. It is an instinct.


A guy in Africa told me, 'You Americans are crazy!' He said, 'We run away from gunfire, Americans run to it!'


I would have shot that guy dead. And I wouldn't lose any sleep about it. Oh well, we shall see how this plays out.

[driftdiver]

I think the two stations were for that purpose, and the time between was moving between stations.
While one is cooling off, he's using the other. Definitely longer than a simple mag change, even if unfamiliar with the rig...

@roamer_1
I'd wager it wasn't to let the weapons cool off.   A couple of minutes isn't going to matter much in the long run.

I'd bet it was to give him two different angles to increase the number of people he could hit.  The extra weapons were probably just to give him back up in case of a malfunction or if he managed to keep the cops out for any length of time.

[driftdiver]

@driftdiver it's almost impossible to hold down an AK-47 and keep the muzzle from jumping up if it's on full auto.

Tried a few times with some captured ones in Iraq.

@txradioguy
Anyone with training would have used bursts.   They'll probably find a lot of bullets impacted well beyond the concert area as his barrel rose.  still he didn't have to be very accurate.  The number of wounded indicate he was able to control the weapon.  maybe he had it strapped down.

Hard to believe someone didn't pick up a clue he was going to do this.

[edpc]

Around the lower floors is a covered entryway and drop off area as well as covered walkways to the two main buildings and parking garages. Also, his room looks to be above the conference room and casino area so there would be the top of those attached buildings below his room. The glass could have fallen on the roof of that and no one would be the wiser.

Similar to Jean Stein's suicide (Katrina Vanden Heuvel's mother) this past May.  She jumped from her 15th floor apartment, but landed on the 8th floor overhang.  They only found out because people saw legs hanging over the edge.

[ABX]

@roamer_1
I'd wager it wasn't to let the weapons cool off.   A couple of minutes isn't going to matter much in the long run.

I'd bet it was to give him two different angles to increase the number of people he could hit.  The extra weapons were probably just to give him back up in case of a malfunction or if he managed to keep the cops out for any length of time.

Even to let the weapons cool off no longer implies formal training. If one were to research using an automatic weapon, they'll find hundreds of videos in minutes on YouTube that mention this.  You can also rent Class 3 firearms at ranges all over Vegas and the instructors there will give you this basic piece of knowledge.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1
I'd wager it wasn't to let the weapons cool off.   A couple of minutes isn't going to matter much in the long run.

@driftdiver
It isn't a couple minutes. I think that's why he had multiple weapons. assuming a couple of the seized weapons were pistols (one for sure, with which he offed himself), that's four rifles per station.

Of course, if he didn't figger he was leaving that room, I don't suppose he is going to care if he's burning the barrels down...

I'd bet it was to give him two different angles to increase the number of people he could hit.  The extra weapons were probably just to give him back up in case of a malfunction or if he managed to keep the cops out for any length of time.

I dunno. The two stations don't make sense to me. He had a seriously rich target environment, off of either nest. Why move?

Just trying to understand the thinking.

[XenaLee]

Possible political donations.

I don't know if this is him, so take it with a grain of salt. The problem is they say he moved a lot recently, 40 something different addresses, so no way to pinpoint if any of these are him or just some guy with the same name.
http://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Stephen+Paddock

AnyWho show at least 10 Stephen Paddocks in the US, many could be the same person with multiple addresses.
https://www.anywho.com/people/stephen-paddock

Not the same Paddock (I already checked and found nada).

[txradioguy]

It is that twinge.


When I heard that gunfire, all I wanted was get into that building. Find the guy. And kill him.


How many of us wanted to run toward that gunfire. It is an instinct.


A guy in Africa told me, 'You Americans are crazy!' He said, 'We run away from gunfire, Americans run to it!'


I would have shot that guy dead. And I wouldn't lose any sleep about it. Oh well, we shall see how this plays out.

I've told my wife before several times if we're ever in an active shooter situation and I'm able...I'm going towards where the gunfire is coming from.

[Applewood]

Dana Loesch just said there were reports of active military in the crowd who fell on top of other people to shield them.

I don't doubt that story for a minute.  There have been several stories of acts of heroism. 

[XenaLee]

Around the lower floors is a covered entryway and drop off area as well as covered walkways to the two main buildings and parking garages. Also, his room looks to be above the conference room and casino area so there would be the top of those attached buildings below his room. The glass could have fallen on the roof of that and no one would be the wiser.

Another aspect of the "planned meticulously" theory?

This guy was no dummy... unless he had help and guidance.  I guess time will tell.

[Emjay]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41466116

Just got up to find this had happened.  Sick.

Especially sick because of the comments by some media people.  I cannot believe they said such things as ... we don't care ... country music lovers are usually 'repuglicans.'

How divided is this country?

[ABX]

@driftdiver
It isn't a couple minutes. I think that's why he had multiple weapons. assuming a couple of the seized weapons were pistols (one for sure, with which he offed himself), that's four rifles per station.

Of course, if he didn't figger he was leaving that room, I don't suppose he is going to care if he's burning the barrels down...

I dunno. The two stations don't make sense to me. He had a seriously rich target environment, off of either nest. Why move?

Just trying to understand the thinking.

What's interesting about the two windows broken out, and this could totally be coincidence based on the layout of his room, (bolding that for emphasis) would be the two fields of view, One overlooked the concert area, one overlooked the entrance to the hotel. IF (big IF) this were planned this way, could it be he was using the broken window overlooking the hotel entrance to fire on any law enforcement coming into the hotel to get him?

Again, big IF; probably speculating too much.

[mystery-ak]

Dana Perino said moments ago that Paddock was known to LEO......then went to the WH press briefing

[ABX]

Another aspect of the "planned meticulously" theory?

This guy was no dummy... unless he had help and guidance.  I guess time will tell.

Nope, that's how the the hotel is in general. He wouldn't have had to planned to be in a room overlooking one of these covered areas, it almost all is over these areas.

[mystery-ak]

What's interesting about the two windows broken out, and this could totally be coincidence based on the layout of his room, (bolding that for emphasis) would be the two fields of view, One overlooked the concert area, one overlooked the entrance to the hotel. IF (big IF) this were planned this way, could it be he was using the broken window overlooking the hotel entrance to fire on any law enforcement coming into the hotel to get him?

Again, big IF; probably speculating too much.

That seems to be a very large room..

[chae]

Well, according to Pamela Geller, it was him at the anti-Trump protest.  She added that Lockheed Martin had NASA contracts, which could explain the "NASA" shirt he's wearing.

[Restored]

How many of us wanted to run toward that gunfire. It is an instinct.

It's harder to lead someone if they are coming towards you at that angle

[edpc]

@driftdiver
It isn't a couple minutes. I think that's why he had multiple weapons. assuming a couple of the seized weapons were pistols (one for sure, with which he offed himself), that's four rifles per station.

Of course, if he didn't figger he was leaving that room, I don't suppose he is going to care if he's burning the barrels down...

I dunno. The two stations don't make sense to me. He had a seriously rich target environment, off of either nest. Why move?

Just trying to understand the thinking.

Based on the pictures I've seen, the one window angle may have been somewhat obstructed by the large concert screen.  The corner window didn't seem to be as much.  Also, the crowd would most likely move directly away from the stage, into his second field of fire.

[roamer_1]

What's interesting about the two windows broken out, and this could totally be coincidence based on the layout of his room, (bolding that for emphasis) would be the two fields of view, One overlooked the concert area, one overlooked the entrance to the hotel. IF (big IF) this were planned this way, could it be he was using the broken window overlooking the hotel entrance to fire on any law enforcement coming into the hotel to get him?

Again, big IF; probably speculating too much.

I don't know. He DIDN'T go after LEOs approaching, so no...

I'd say maybe just to get ventilation to get the fire alarm to quit screaming... But that can't be... Police reports specify two separate nests. There was a purpose to it, and I don't understand it.

[Emjay]

CBS just showed a photo like the one you posted.   As I said before, the other photo may be inaccurate or old.

No, I have a nephew born almost the same date and he looks like a kid.  People look younger than they used to.

[driftdiver]

What's interesting about the two windows broken out, and this could totally be coincidence based on the layout of his room, (bolding that for emphasis) would be the two fields of view, One overlooked the concert area, one overlooked the entrance to the hotel. IF (big IF) this were planned this way, could it be he was using the broken window overlooking the hotel entrance to fire on any law enforcement coming into the hotel to get him?

Again, big IF; probably speculating too much.

@AbaraXas
He was obviously intelligent and seems to have planned this out to the smallest detail.     He took so many lives and damaged so many more.  He emboldened our enemies and empowered those trying to destroy America.  Its unfathomable but not surprising they are already using it against us.

A sick evil bastard, I hope he rots in hell.