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Is Immigration and Customs Enforcement giving California a giant middle finger for passing SB 54, “Sanctuary State” legislation?

Well, kinda.

In “Operation Safe City,” conducted over multiple days this week, ICE rounded up hundreds of people throughout the US who were wanted for immigration violations. Nearly 500 people were arrested, with about 130 of them coming from California.

A press release from ICE stated that the operation focused on jurisdictions where “ICE deportation officers are denied access to jails and prisons to interview suspected immigration violators or jurisdictions where ICE detainers are not honored.”

Though proponents of illegal immigration claim these raids harm innocent, hard-working people just seeking a better life, 300 of the 498 arrestees had a criminal record. One man arrested in the Los Angeles area  is a documented Colonia Chiques gang member who “rammed multiple law enforcement vehicles in an effort to evade arrest” and was in possession of a loaded handgun at the time of his arrest. Oh, and he was on probation.

Why wasn’t a documented gang member who was known to be illegally in the country not turned over to ICE by local authorities when he was at the jail? That is most likely because of LAPD Chief Charlie Beck’s extremely stringent rules on when jail officials can cooperate with ICE, which is
https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2017/09/29/sanctuary-state-californians-whine-ice-continues-job/effectively never, as I wrote about in January.

Also, isn’t it more dangerous for ICE to attempt to apprehend people like that man in the neighborhoods, where they have access to firearms, than at the courthouse or jail? As an ICE officer, who spoke to RedState on condition of anonymity, explained, yes. The officer said that even if  local law enforcement agencies or jurisdictions refuse to honor detainers, ICE still knows where these criminals are and will go into the neighborhoods to find and detain them.

And that result – armed ICE officers showing up in illegal immigrant communities and raiding homes, and the news coverage photos that come from it – could be the precise point of sanctuary city/state legislation. The officer said [emphasis added]:

I can tell you that sanctuary jurisdictions don’t stop the work. The pressure to locate and remove aliens remains the same. The priorities remain the same. Criminal Aliens and Gangs remain top priority. The only thing that’s changed is the location of the pick-ups.
As ICE continues to show up in communities (as a direct result of being forced into those communities by sanctuary bills), fear, confusion, and outrage will continue to grow. Illegal Immigrants will feel (and will be) less safe than they were before.

See, before, ICE would simply go down to the county or city jail and grab their detainee and remove them. Now…they’re going out into the neighborhoods more often instead. I can’t imagine that any illegal alien prefers ICE sweeping neighborhoods and community centers rather than just going to get their targets from the jail. It does not provide any refuge for them as a whole, in fact, now it puts the whole illegal alien community more at risk.

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The sanctuary state bill California legislators passed, SB 54, has not yet been signed by Gov. Jerry Brown. When asked about the effect of the statewide bill, the officer replied:
To decide to protect CRIMINAL aliens from being removed by ICE, and put law-abiding US Citizens at risk, is as backwards an idea as it can possibly be. But you know what, it’s okay. The work of ICE doesn’t stop.

https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2017/09/29/sanctuary-state-californians-whine-ice-continues-job/

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 05:42:47 pm »
ICE seems to have gotten a little infusion of courage lately.
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 06:56:17 pm »
Can we credit a Trump presidency for taking the shackles off of ICE and allowing and encouraging them to do their job.

I think we can.
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 07:11:52 pm »
Can we credit a Trump presidency for taking the shackles off of ICE and allowing and encouraging them to do their job.

I think we can.

Who else is there to credit?
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 07:23:06 pm »
Who else is there to credit?

Certainly not Obama who deliberately hamstrung ICE for years.
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 09:49:40 pm »
Can we credit a Trump presidency for taking the shackles off of ICE and allowing and encouraging them to do their job.

I think we can.

I can. 

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2017, 02:46:29 am »
Begun wrote (re Mr. Trump):
"Who else is there to credit?"

Think we would have seen this with Kasich?
Or with Rubio?
Or with Fiorina?
Or with ¡Jeb! ?

Hah!

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 07:21:08 pm »
Begun wrote (re Mr. Trump):
"Who else is there to credit?"

Think we would have seen this with Kasich?
Or with Rubio?
Or with Fiorina?
Or with ¡Jeb! ?

Hah!
No, No, maybe and Hell No
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 08:14:36 pm »
REALLY?

You could arrest 500 a day forever and not even keep up with the influx.
This? Much ado about nothing.

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 10:18:44 pm »
REALLY?

You could arrest 500 a day forever and not even keep up with the influx.
This? Much ado about nothing.

 :boring: :talkhand:


It's the Perception this is generating among border jumpers that's a positive.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/9/illegal-immigration-southwest-border-down-70-pct/

The idea that anyone even cares to so much as look at them is making a huge difference.

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 10:42:16 pm »
It's the Perception this is generating among border jumpers that's a positive.
The idea that anyone even cares to so much as look at them is making a huge difference.

There are likewise articles claiming that illegal crossings are back to Obama levels with DACA waiting in the wings... So which is true, and which is not, because both cannot be true.

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2017, 05:28:44 am »
There are likewise articles claiming that illegal crossings are back to Obama levels with DACA waiting in the wings... So which is true, and which is not, because both cannot be true.

Sadly enough, we have NO media that we can trust and we don't know what's true and what's not anymore.  The leftist media will only report what looks bad for Trump.
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2017, 05:47:19 am »
Sadly enough, we have NO media that we can trust and we don't know what's true and what's not anymore.  The leftist media will only report what looks bad for Trump.

Can't trust the pro-Tump media any more than the rest... It's ALL bullcrap.

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2017, 02:30:15 pm »

It's the Perception this is generating among border jumpers that's a positive.
[.....]
The idea that anyone even cares to so much as look at them is making a huge difference.

I agree and believe that we need to capitalize on this by putting those "caught" to work at a labor camp for a period of time, without compensation, prior to being set home.  They could make compressed earth blocks by hand in the hot desert sun and the blocks could be used to build the wall.  When they pass the word, even fewer will attempt to come here. 

Require proof of citizenship and legal resident status to, get a job, open a bank account, apply for drivers license, buy a car, rent an apartment, or receive any benefits/entitlements and many more will go home.

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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2017, 03:11:03 pm »
I agree and believe that we need to capitalize on this by putting those "caught" to work at a labor camp for a period of time, without compensation, prior to being set home.  They could make compressed earth blocks by hand in the hot desert sun and the blocks could be used to build the wall.  When they pass the word, even fewer will attempt to come here. 

Require proof of citizenship and legal resident status to, get a job, open a bank account, apply for drivers license, buy a car, rent an apartment, or receive any benefits/entitlements and many more will go home.

The problem is only half the country is serious about this.  If we can just send people caught back to Mexico, I'm calling that punishment enough.  I mean you could be right ... they broke the law and cost us time and money to catch them, but that'll never fly.

Your other points are valid and would work.
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Re: “Sanctuary” State Californians Whine As ICE Continues To Do Its Job
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2017, 07:05:44 pm »
The problem is only half the country is serious about this. If we can just send people caught back to Mexico, I'm calling that punishment enough.  I mean you could be right ... they broke the law and cost us time and money to catch them, but that'll never fly.

Your other points are valid and would work.

Right you are.

Just 45 minutes ago I had to listen to an earful about the illegal 'children'.

It's not their fault and they deserve a special exemption.


http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/tuition-benefits-for-immigrants.aspx

"Twenty states offer in-state tuition to unauthorized immigrant students, 16 by state legislative action and four by state university systems."

http://undoc.universityofcalifornia.edu/financial-aid.html

http://www.csac.ca.gov/dream_act.asp

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/immigrant-rights-college-tuition-aid-101-article-1.2994938

http://www2.cuny.edu/current-students/student-affairs/special-programs/dreamers-hub/faq/

Because they're all "Innocent Victims"

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/11/nationwide-ice-sweep-arrests-dreamers-ms-13-gang-members/

http://www.newsweek.com/dreamers-daca-statistics-trump-deadline-657201


6. In order to apply for DACA, immigrants had to be younger than 31 on June 15, 2012.

7. They must have come to the U.S. before turning 16. They must have lived in the U.S. since June 15, 2007.

8. In a Center for American Progress survey of roughly 3,000 DACA recipients, nine-tenths of respondents said they had jobs.

9. Their average hourly wage was $17.46 an hour, up from $10.29 before receiving DACA.

10. About 72 percent of respondents were in higher education.
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