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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #325 on: September 27, 2017, 01:58:23 pm »
You should.   Even Trump supported his opponent; he knows the importance of retaining firm control of the Senate.   Moore's a vanity candidate  -  my Dem friends are chuckling with glee this morning.


No doubt they employed the same judgement that allowed them to believe Hillary was going to win. 

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #326 on: September 27, 2017, 02:00:06 pm »
All I know is that the Republican nominee for Senate from the great state of Alabama is on record as saying that homosexual conduct should be illegal.  So does the Taliban. 


So has Western Civilization.   



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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #327 on: September 27, 2017, 02:02:19 pm »
All I know is that the Republican nominee for Senate from the great state of Alabama is on record as saying that homosexual conduct should be illegal.  So does the Taliban. 

Now I realize that Moore's religious fascism represents no threat to the rights of homosexuals in this country.  But he does represent a threat to GOP control of the Senate.

A threat?  Seriously?  The ONLY threat to the Senate would be initiated by the 'Turtle' himself as Moore has the potential to upset his beloved Senate and curtail his pandering to the left.  Keep in mind that McCain is knocking on death's door which will open up his seat and Corker is retiring ... 2 more seats that could potentially bring 2 more conservatives into the Senate ... no way is McConnell going to back conservatism and he will do everything he can to ensure that his cronies across the aisle are still in control.
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #328 on: September 27, 2017, 02:04:01 pm »
All I know is that the Republican nominee for Senate from the great state of Alabama is on record as saying that homosexual conduct should be illegal.  So does the Taliban. 

Now I realize that Moore's religious fascism represents no threat to the rights of homosexuals in this country.  But he does represent a threat to GOP control of the Senate.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #329 on: September 27, 2017, 02:13:29 pm »
All I know is that the Republican nominee for Senate from the great state of Alabama is on record as saying that homosexual conduct should be illegal.

As a vocal supporter of tyranny, why do you even care what some legislator said?
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #330 on: September 27, 2017, 02:15:24 pm »
A threat?  Seriously?  The ONLY threat to the Senate would be initiated by the 'Turtle' himself as Moore has the potential to upset his beloved Senate and curtail his pandering to the left.  Keep in mind that McCain is knocking on death's door which will open up his seat and Corker is retiring ... 2 more seats that could potentially bring 2 more conservatives into the Senate ... no way is McConnell going to back conservatism and he will do everything he can to ensure that his cronies across the aisle are still in control.

This is a nonsense post.  Both Trump and McConnell will support the nominee.   But the Dems have a golden opportunity to pick up this Senate seat.  Roy Moore's baggage may drag him down. 
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #331 on: September 27, 2017, 02:17:42 pm »
@Jazzhead
You've lost it.   If you want to see fanaticism look in the mirror.

Hey, the man's on record as saying he wants to make homosexual conduct illegal.  Has he repudiated that statement?   He's got no respect whatsoever for the Constitution's separation of church and state.   
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #332 on: September 27, 2017, 02:21:44 pm »
Hey, the man's on record as saying he wants to make homosexual conduct illegal.  Has he repudiated that statement?   He's got no respect whatsoever for the Constitution's separation of church and state.

@Jazzhead
Its been illegal for most of this nations history.     If you don't see a difference between "it should be illegal" and "they should all be tortured and murdered" then you are as sick in the head as the taliban.

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« Reply #333 on: September 27, 2017, 02:24:23 pm »
Oh bullshit.  So now you're even blaming God for homosexuals??? 

And .... the libs/lefties damned sure as hell ARE encouraging homosexuality (and transgenderism).  They're teaching it in schools to children as "normal".  It's being pushed and presented in pretty much every show on TV now as "normal". 

But I'm not surprised to see you spouting this, yet more, BS.

It IS normal - for a small portion of the population.   It is how God made some folks.    No amount of 'teaching" will turn a straight person gay - but acceptance will help gays to lead more monogamous, constructive lives.   I support gay marriage because these are the ones who seek to live in a covenant relationship with their partner, away from the promiscuity of the bathhouse lifestyle.   
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #334 on: September 27, 2017, 02:28:16 pm »
Hey, the man's on record as saying he wants to make homosexual conduct illegal.  Has he repudiated that statement?   He's got no respect whatsoever for the Constitution's separation of church and state.

Your novel interpretation of this mythical 'Separation of Church and State' is not even as old as I am.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #335 on: September 27, 2017, 02:28:21 pm »
While there is some evidence of a gay gene, in the majority of cases, homosexuality is a LEARNED behavior.  This is indisputable based on the social science and hard science studies that have been done.  The big lie the left is telling is that homosexuals "are born that way."  Some possibly are.  But not all, or even most, based on what we know now.

As for transgenders, there is absolutely no evidence that they are "born that way."  It is wholly and completely a learned predisposition based on all of the evidence.

I only point this out because I hate it when people, the left in particular, distort reality in pursuit of political objectives.

The FACT is that there is no such thing as a "Transgendered" person!  There are only mentally ill people who imagine that they are what they are not.

DNA doesn't lie!
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #336 on: September 27, 2017, 02:29:35 pm »
Hey, the man's on record as saying he wants to make homosexual conduct illegal.  Has he repudiated that statement?   He's got no respect whatsoever for the Constitution's separation of church and state.
Balderdash! The sodomy laws so recently overthrown by judges did just fine getting along with our Constitution for nearly 200 years.
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Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
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Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
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24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violationof free speech and free press.25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenityin books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #337 on: September 27, 2017, 02:30:27 pm »
It IS normal - for a small portion of the population.   It is how God made some folks.    No amount of 'teaching" will turn a straight person gay - but acceptance will help gays to lead more monogamous, constructive lives.   I support gay marriage because these are the ones who seek to live in a covenant relationship with their partner, away from the promiscuity of the bathhouse lifestyle.

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If its a "small portion" then its not normal.   Its also not how God makes people, but you know that.   Being gay is a choice for most people, thats why gay leaders push their folks to "recruit, recruit, recruit".  The typical gay male is like singer George Michael was.   Full of self-hatred and destructive behaviors, having sex with anonymous people in the bushes outside crappy bars.

You support gay marriage because you will do anything to stick it to those 'evil christians'.
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #338 on: September 27, 2017, 02:31:46 pm »
It IS normal - for a small portion of the population.   It is how God made some folks.    No amount of 'teaching" will turn a straight person gay - but acceptance will help gays to lead more monogamous, constructive lives.   I support gay marriage because these are the ones who seek to live in a covenant relationship with their partner, away from the promiscuity of the bathhouse lifestyle.

God had nothing to do with gays being gay, other than giving mankind "free will" to be as deviant from God's will as they wanna be.  If you're going to blame it on other than human will, blame Satan.   It has led and is leading more humans away from God and to eternal damnation.  Satan is pleased.

Also..... please explain how gays that indulge in marching in those "Gay Pride" parades can claim pride for something that they, supposedly, had nothing to do with.  If being gay wasn't a deliberate choice they made, how the hell can they be "proud" of being gay?  Do you see straight folks marching in "pride"?  No.   Goes right back to that saying "Pride goeth before a fall".... the fall being their pride in being deviant from God's will....which will lead them straight to Hell, no doubt.
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #339 on: September 27, 2017, 02:38:18 pm »
While there is some evidence of a gay gene, in the majority of cases, homosexuality is a LEARNED behavior.  This is indisputable based on the social science and hard science studies that have been done.  The big lie the left is telling is that homosexuals "are born that way."  Some possibly are.  But not all, or even most, based on what we know now.

As for transgenders, there is absolutely no evidence that they are "born that way."  It is wholly and completely a learned predisposition based on all of the evidence.

I only point this out because I hate it when people, the left in particular, distort reality in pursuit of political objectives.

There's a third option, between heredity and learned behavior, and I think it is the correct one, that of it being caused by congenital conditions.

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« Reply #340 on: September 27, 2017, 02:39:20 pm »
God had nothing to do with gays being gay, other than giving mankind "free will" to be as deviant from God's will as they wanna be.  If you're going to blame it on other than human will, blame Satan.   It has led and is leading more humans away from God and to eternal damnation.  Satan is pleased.

Also..... please explain how gays that indulge in marching in those "Gay Pride" parades can claim pride for something that they, supposedly, had nothing to do with.  If being gay wasn't a deliberate choice they made, how the hell can they be "proud" of being gay?  Do you see straight folks marching in "pride"?  No.   Goes right back to that saying "Pride goeth before a fall".... the fall being their pride in being deviant from God's will....which will lead them straight to Hell, no doubt.

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He might also explain the other 'pride' behavior.  You know the public nudity, the public urination, defecation, masturbation and so forth that takes place at those events.
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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #341 on: September 27, 2017, 02:50:23 pm »
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He might also explain the other 'pride' behavior.  You know the public nudity, the public urination, defecation, masturbation and so forth that takes place at those events.

Yeah.... what he seemingly refuses to admit or acknowledge is.... that his neighbors are the exception to the rule and NOT the norm re: homosexuals' behavior.   

I used to know (and care for) a bunch of them back in my liberal days.  And even then they were wild as hell by any standards.  Since those days, they have literally 'come out' and now have no limits to their behavior.  And why should they?  Society has, in their perception, accepted them.... since they are presented in every TV and movie now as normal... and schools are indoctrinating children into accepting them.  It's ironic that only now have they become political animals, unlike back then.  Nobody talked about politics in those days.  Wasn't even on our radar.  But now that acceptance is on the horizon, they're pushing politically for more.  It has turned me completely OFF to them now.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #342 on: September 27, 2017, 02:52:14 pm »
Trump said so many things that looked liked they'd be curtains for other politicians.

We have probably entered a new phase where one will not be damned by their previous statements so much.

It might have to be real, real bad if one digs up statements that are 12 years old.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #343 on: September 27, 2017, 02:55:34 pm »

The Declaration promised every American, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do not agree with Roy Moore’s prior statements on homosexuality.

Which is not to say that I agree with the type of gay agenda illustrated by pride parades. I guess I’m of two minds (which makes me twice as smart!). :silly:

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #344 on: September 27, 2017, 02:58:25 pm »
The Declaration promised every American, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do not agree with Roy Moore’s prior statements on homosexuality.

Which is not to say that I agree with the type of gay agenda illustrated by pride parades. I guess I’m of two minds (which makes me twice as smart!). :silly:

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #345 on: September 27, 2017, 03:04:48 pm »
The Declaration promised every American, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do not agree with Roy Moore’s prior statements on homosexuality.

Which is not to say that I agree with the type of gay agenda illustrated by pride parades. I guess I’m of two minds (which makes me twice as smart!). :silly:

No, not really.  It states that all men have been endowed by our Creator certain inalienable rights such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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« Reply #346 on: September 27, 2017, 03:15:38 pm »
Sorry, for the misstep. It’s the pressure to be brief.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #347 on: September 27, 2017, 03:26:03 pm »
All I know is that the Republican nominee for Senate from the great state of Alabama is on record as saying that homosexual conduct should be illegal.  So does the Taliban. 

So does God.

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Re: ‘Homosexual Conduct Should Be Illegal,’ Roy Moore Said in ‘05 Interview
« Reply #348 on: September 27, 2017, 03:29:07 pm »
There's a third option, between heredity and learned behavior, and I think it is the correct one, that of it being caused by congenital conditions.

In some cases, yes.  And that might be enough to justify a public policy of acceptance.  I support such a policy, except for the public spending implications of recognizing gay marriage.  In a perfect world, the government would be out of the marriage business altogether, and marriage would be a religious ceremony with no public fiscal implications.  Since the world isn't perfect, I guess it's fair that gays be allowed to marry.  I am under no delusions that most of them are "born that way."

Based on what is now known (subject to change as we find more and more genetic markers for things), homosexuality starts as a fixation, then graduates to a compulsion, then an addiction (or "lifestyle" if you prefer).  People become fixated based on stimuli available to them in the external environment.  If this is true, then as the number of stimuli promoting the gay lifestyle in the external environment increases, so too would the rate of homosexuality, and that is exactly what we have seen.

In the case of transgenders, it is always a case of graduating from fixation to compulsion to addiction. The number of positive stimuli promoting transgenders in the external environment has increased tremendously in the past 10 years or so, and we have seen a huge increase in the number of transgenders.  In fact, Gen Z is obsessed with the idea of "gender fluidity." 

 

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« Reply #349 on: September 27, 2017, 03:31:14 pm »
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So I should be allowed to do anything that makes me happy??

Sure. Anything that’s legal. Even if others disagree or disapprove of the things you do that make you happy.
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