Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman (Manafort)

[endicom]

CNN
Evan Perez, Shimon Prokupecz and Pamela Brown
Sept. 18, 2017

Washington (CNN)US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.

Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.

More... http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

[DB]

What a mess...

[driftdiver]

So Trump was correct way back when he said they were doing this.

[kevindavis007]

@SteveDeaceShow  56m56 minutes ago


 Story is NOT that Trump was illegally wiretapped. The story is legal warrants were obtained to wiretap his campaign manager. #Facts

[DB]

All I can say is Obama and crew better have a damn good reason why they wiretapped Trump's campaign chairman.

[mystery-ak]

Government wiretapped Manafort during and after 2016: report
By Brandon Carter - 09/18/17 07:08 PM EDT

The government wiretapped the phone of President Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, during and after the 2016 presidential campaign, CNN reported on Monday

Sources familiar with the matter told CNN that the government obtained a secret court order under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in 2014. The warrant allegedly focused on his work consulting for the government of Ukraine.

That warrant was reportedly ended in 2016, but the FBI obtained a second one soon after which lasted until early 2017, including periods when Manafort was speaking with Trump.

more
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/351263-us-government-wiretapped-former-trump-campaign-chairman-report

[Oceander]

All I can say is Obama and crew better have a damn good reason why the wiretapped Trump's campaign chairman.

Apparently good enough to convince a court to authorize the wiretap. 

[endicom]

What about the Podesta Group and Mercury LLC?

[driftdiver]

Apparently good enough to convince a court to authorize the wiretap.

Doesn't take much apparently.  They haven't said no to anyone in years.

[DB]

Apparently good enough to convince a court to authorize the wiretap.

Unfortunately that doesn't mean much these days.

[Oceander]

Doesn't take much apparently.  They haven't said no to anyone in years.

Then Manafort can challenge the basis for the warrant in court. If there's nothing there, the warrant will fail and suppression will be applied. 

Otherwise, the Constitution was complied with. 

[kevindavis007]

@DerekCressman


Just to clear up any confusion, there is a big difference between a judge ordering a wiretap on Manafort and Obama ordering one on Trump

[kevindavis007]

What about the Podesta Group and Mercury LLC?

How about stopping with the whataboutism.....

[Cyber Liberty]

Then Manafort can challenge the basis for the warrant in court. If there's nothing there, the warrant will fail and suppression will be applied. 

Otherwise, the Constitution was complied with.

$$$$  Do you have a friend in on this?

[driftdiver]

@DerekCressman


Just to clear up any confusion, there is a big difference between a judge ordering a wiretap on Manafort and Obama ordering one on Trump

Not really both captured privileged conversations.

[gogogodzilla]

All I can say is Obama and crew better have a damn good reason why they wiretapped Trump's campaign chairman.

Well, he was heavily involved in getting Viktor Yanukovych elected in the Ukraine (ie: Putin's lapdog, who was deposed in 2014).

If that isn't a good enough reason to collect on the guy *prior* to the the 2016 election campaign...

[edpc]

Apparently good enough to convince a court to authorize the wiretap.

Not the first time it was submitted.  That was denied.  Makes me wonder what additional evidence was included in round two and how they came by it.

[DB]

Not the first time it was submitted.  That was denied.  Makes me wonder what additional evidence was included in round two and how they came by it.

Or just shopped for a different judge.

[endicom]

How about stopping with the whataboutism.....

No, thanks. The investigation is supposed to be about possible Russian involvement in the election.

[driftdiver]

Well, he was heavily involved in getting Viktor Yanukovych elected in the Ukraine (ie: Putin's lapdog, who was deposed in 2014).

If that isn't a good enough reason to collect on the guy *prior* to the the 2016 election campaign...

Is that illegal? 

I'd expect to see a much greater justification.

[edpc]

Or just shopped for a different judge.

Perhaps, but they submitted additional evidence in October 2016, after being denied in June.  Levin lays this all out back in March 2017.  At the time, the MSM labeled it a conspiracy theory, despite his quoting of mainstream sources.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/03/05/mark-levin-breaks-trump-wiretapping-claims/

[endicom]

Then Manafort can challenge the basis for the warrant in court. If there's nothing there, the warrant will fail and suppression will be applied. 

How much time or money would that require?

[gogogodzilla]

Is that illegal? 

I'd expect to see a much greater justification.

I dunno, is it the job of our intel agencies to collect on foreign governments?

If so, then collecting on a foreign government's election campaigns and their staff would stand to reason.

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Are you saying we don't/shouldn't do that?

[DB]

Well, he was heavily involved in getting Viktor Yanukovych elected in the Ukraine (ie: Putin's lapdog, who was deposed in 2014).

If that isn't a good enough reason to collect on the guy *prior* to the the 2016 election campaign...

The vast majority of these election gurus are hired guns that will work for anyone who pays enough. Most of them are way past the principles thing.

[driftdiver]

I dunno, is it the job of our intel agencies to collect on foreign governments?

If so, then collecting on a foreign government's election campaigns and their staff would stand to reason.

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Are you saying we don't/shouldn't do that?

I'm saying wiretapping any american campaign  is a big deal.   I could care less about ukraines.