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House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« on: September 16, 2017, 04:27:11 pm »
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JOSH GERSTEIN 09/15/2017 08:21 PM EDT Updated 09/15/2017 09:03 PM EDT

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/15/house-moves-to-block-access-to-records-foia-242791

The House of Representatives is taking legal action to make sure that federal agencies don’t release congressional records to the public through the Freedom of Information Act.

The move, which came Friday evening in a lawsuit demanding access to discussions about health care reform between the Trump administration and Congress, threatens to cut off a mechanism liberal watchdog groups were using to gain insight into closed-door negotiations on a variety of policy issues.

In legal papers filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, House General Counsel Thomas Hungar said the move to protect congressional correspondence was authorized by a House body known as the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group. While the panel of top House leaders has divided in the past on sensitive issues, Hungar wrote that they “voted unanimously to authorize this intervention … to protect the institutional interests of the House.”
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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2017, 05:32:40 pm »
Well, we sure don't want "the public" knowing what's going on in the hallowed halls.   *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2017, 04:55:17 am »
Well, we sure don't want "the public" knowing what's going on in the hallowed halls.   *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2017, 03:43:11 pm »
The whole Congress is one smoke-filled back room.
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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2017, 05:31:17 pm »
The whole Congress is one smoke-filled back room.

And we all know what they are smoking.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2017, 05:38:22 pm »
And we all know what they are smoking.

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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2017, 05:49:44 pm »
Kinda split here. More formal negotiations I don't think should be kept secret. At the same time, I'd like to give the congress critters enough privacy to feel comfortable enough to have open conversations, and be able to throw out ideas and see what sticks or brainstorm.

Don't want the American people to be kept in the dark, but I don't want every little word being a potential gotcha '47% moment' either.
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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2017, 06:51:20 pm »
It's our money mostly!
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Re: House Goes To Court To Protect Secrecy of Records
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 06:53:37 pm »
Kinda split here. More formal negotiations I don't think should be kept secret. At the same time, I'd like to give the congress critters enough privacy to feel comfortable enough to have open conversations, and be able to throw out ideas and see what sticks or brainstorm.

Don't want the American people to be kept in the dark, but I don't want every little word being a potential gotcha '47% moment' either.
They've been hashing stuff out off the record in the cloakrooms since they wore cloaks. They have also been able to meet behind closed doors when the matters of discussion required a Security Clearance. I get that.Day to day business, however, should be in the sunlight. They have the committees to bang out the details.
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