Ted Cruz says 'consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want in the bedroom' as he promises his account will never like porn again

[jpsb]

This is one of many ways Government operates differently from Business.

Says the expert on everything. FYI I spent more than a few years at NASA (Houston and NASA HQ in D.C.)

[Cyber Liberty]

So what?  Explain how working at NASA equates in any way to the inner workings of an Attorney General's office?

[txradioguy]

The only excuse I would find plausible is that both Abbott and Cruz knew the case was an unwinable waste of time. But no one is making that argument and I'd need to hear it from someone creditable (NeverTrumpers/Cruzers are not creditable).

Your credibility and objectivity is about on the level of the MSM.

Just saying.

You talk about the bluster and bravado you supposedly displayed to your boss.

You left out what happened afterwards. Which was probably you still didn't get what you wanted.

Going into your bosses office and telling him what he's going to do for you and what he's going to LET you do is only successful in the movies.

In the real world it gets you squat.

[Smokin Joe]

@catfish1957

Bizarre, isn't it?  Just recently it's become really virulent.

Maybe that has to do with the people on social media burning their red hats and admitting they should've supported Cruz.

Kinda. It would be like someone buying a piece of land, assured it was the highest point around, even though it would be wrapped in fog half the year. They build their house there, waiting for the mist to clear and take in the view, only to discover they are surrounded by higher peaks.
Do they move?
No.
They dynamite the higher peaks around theirs.

[jpsb]

Your credibility and objectivity is about on the level of the MSM.

Just saying.

You talk about the bluster and bravado you supposedly displayed to your boss.

You left out what happened afterwards. Which was probably you still didn't get what you wanted.

Going into your bosses office and telling him what he's going to do for you and what he's going to LET you do is only successful in the movies.

In the real world it gets you squat.

I don't wish to be insulting but it is a competence thing. Your boss may be pissed but your bosses boss isn't.

[Sanguine]

Kinda. It would be like someone buying a piece of land, assured it was the highest point around, even though it would be wrapped in fog half the year. They build their house there, waiting for the mist to clear and take in the view, only to discover they are surrounded by higher peaks.
Do they move?
No.
They dynamite the higher peaks around theirs.

Great parable. 

[Smokin Joe]

Stockholm syndrome?

More like "battered wife syndrome"...."But Officer, don't take him to jail, I love him....."

 
And GOP voters in general have been the abused in the relationship for so long they think they're getting a good deal. 'At least she didn't break all the bones in her face like B****' s wife did...(when she ran into the plank he was holding).

[Sanguine]

You're still wrong, but after all these posts and you still don't get it, I'm done trying to explain it to you.  Believe what you want.  I think most of the rest of us know better.

I try to keep that in mind.  I'm not going to change a closed mind, nor shine any light into its corners.  But I can make sure to offset false statements with facts and rational opinions for those whose minds are open to reason.

[Cyber Liberty]

I don't wish to be insulting but it is a competence thing. Your boss may be pissed but your bosses boss isn't.

In most corporate environments that's known as "going over your bosses head."  I'll bet you're a real joy to work with.

[Cyber Liberty]

I try to keep that in mind.  I'm not going to change a closed mind, nor shine any light into its corners.  But I can make sure to offset false statements with facts and rational opinions for those whose minds are open to reason.

That's a pretty good observation, as usual.  It's about time for me to give up too.

[Oceander]

The case was Lawrence vs TEXAS.

Are you telling me the solicitor General of Texas could not have walked into the AG office and said "I want to represent Texas in Lawrence vs TEXAS case. Really? The biggest most important gay mafia case ever? I am not buying that. Cruz and Abbett took a pass and because of that we have open homosexuals in our military, same sex marriage, etc. Harris county asked Cruz/Abbett to help with the case, crickets.

Not defending that travesty of a case was the correct thing to do. 

[Smokin Joe]

I don't wish to be insulting but it is a competence thing. Your boss may be pissed but your bosses boss isn't.

Regardless of how competent you are, there is a chain of command, too, even in industry.

I'd like to have the money wasted when I laid out the case that something would be a disaster and was overruled (millions of dollars). I have been the only person in the room who was right on more than one occasion, and events proved it.

 It's why I have no use for braying blowhards who can drown out reason if they are only loud enough.

[jmyrlefuller]

Are you telling me the solicitor General of Texas could not have walked into the AG office and said "I want to represent Texas in Lawrence vs TEXAS case. Really? The biggest most important gay mafia case ever?

Are you telling me that you can defy your boss's orders? The AG refused to take the case. The AG is the SG's boss; the SG follows the AG's orders or gets fired. If the AG blocks access to the case, the SG cannot go around him. Even if it were in theory possible, it would be insubordination and a firable offense.

[jpsb]

Regardless of how competent you are, there is a chain of command, too, even in industry.

I'd like to have the money wasted when I laid out the case that something would be a disaster and was overruled (millions of dollars). I have been the only person in the room who was right on more than one occasion, and events proved it.

 It's why I have no use for braying blowhards who can drown out reason if they are only loud enough.

Fortunately for me I was in a position to do something about it. It sounds like you were not so lucky.

I'm a (was) programmer.  So I get to write the code the way it should be written. And yes I pissed a lot of people off, until they realized I was right. More then once I saved the companies butt by going rouge and doing things I did not have permission to do. For example in my spare time I wrote and API for our system. I tried to talk the head of the company into using my API, no luck.  So I went around her and talked the PC developers into using it. I got my a$$ chewed good for that, but I knew we would get killed in the market place without an API. You just can not sell a huge document manage system without an API. A big software system needs to be layered. UI->API->Business Code->Data Store anything else is suicide via spaghetti code. Oh the API became a big selling point since a lot of other systems back then (90s) did not have one.

A lot of techies work for managers that do not have a clue on how to write modern software systems and could not program their way out of a wet paper bag. My career finally came to an end with I was stuck with a really dumb manager. Now mind you I worked at the company I (and two others) founded on a product I invented. But the a$$ I was working under INSISTED I do things his way, well his way was just horrible code so I refused and got canned. LOL. A few years later the company was sold to investors in India.

[Suppressed]

The "whatever you want" issue sounds fine for about one minute until a thinking brain starts applying that reality to everything else.

This thinking brain wonders what part of the Constitution makes adultery, STIs, etc., part of the Senate's job.

[Cyber Liberty]

So, it cost you your job, but you sure showed him who's boss....

It may have taken a long, roundabout course, but you eventually confirmed why Cruz did what he did/didn't do.

[jpsb]

So, it cost you your job, but you sure showed him who's boss....

It may have taken a long, roundabout course, but you eventually confirmed why Cruz did what he did/didn't do.

I was 60 and had other irons in the fire. I also reengineered the entire system and have the much improved source code right here on my computer. I'm thinking about going open source with it.

[Chosen Daughter]

@catfish1957

Yup, that's it exactly.

I don't understand why they're trying to defend someone who used them and lied to them.   If someone did that to me, I'd be done with them. 

Whatever, I guess.

It is hard to come to terms with being suckered.  Nobody would want to own that.  I can imagine if it was me I would probably be holding out with hope that somehow these things are misunderstood.

I have friends, family and church family who voted for Trump.  They believed what he said for sure.  And I never liked Trump but hoped he would do what he promised on immigration, defunding for abortion, prosecuting Hillary Clinton, prosecuting the IRS woman............

One thing I disagreed with my fellow Christians on was being allowed to endorse political candidates.  You can talk about issues as they relate to Christianity and the Bible without endorsing candidates.  You can have speakers at your church who are politicians talking about specific issues like abortion or transgender bathrooms or the sanctity of marriage.  Anyone can come to your church but they should not be using Gods house to campaign for election.

[RoosGirl]

So, it cost you your job, but you sure showed him who's boss....

It may have taken a long, roundabout course, but you eventually confirmed why Cruz did what he did/didn't do.

Some people...

[Chosen Daughter]

This thinking brain wonders what part of the Constitution makes adultery, STIs, etc., part of the Senate's job.

It doesn't.  I know nothing about Cruz and ban of sex toys.  I always think of the limits of Government as it relates to God and the Constitution.  We are granted rights by our Creator.  God doesn't place limits on peoples freedoms but there will be consequences for their choices. They and they alone will be judged for what they do.

If people want to buy sex toys they can. 

Government limits should be placed for safety of the community.  They should be placed to protect others from having to pay or be held responsible for others negative actions which hurt the community.  I believe also if things are a health issue to the community the government has a duty to protect its community.  I don't think it is right for gays to have parades where they expose themselves in the street.  Decency laws say they should be arrested.  Families and children have a right not to see it.

If there is something that is being done that puts others in danger then limits must be placed.  But God gives people free will to make their own choices in life.  To choose Him or not choose Him.  The Bible is a book for believers, not for the World.

However if I am forced to engage in others choices by the government it is wrong.  At that point I no longer have freedom in this country.  If I choose not to take pictures for a gay wedding or bake a cake it is my choice.  There are plenty of bakeries and photographers.  I should never be sued or prosecuted by the government.  Our country is going down the wrong road for sure. 

[Sanguine]

It doesn't.  I know nothing about Cruz and ban of sex toys. ...

There is an excellent article that goes into this story:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,281429.0.html

[Chosen Daughter]

It doesn't stand in stark contract to the President, @Bigun although I can understand why you'd say this.  Every time one member of the media throws out a shiny new anti-Trump "story", the rest of the media catches it and runs with it.  By the time it's proven untrue, hundreds of posts have been made here (and other places) condemning the President and ridiculing his supporters.  There is a new feeding frenzy every day.  One would almost think it's intentional.

So far, to highlight just a few efforts, he's done pretty damn well against some formidable opposition on both sides of the swamp.  He ended dozens of Obama's EO's, including growth stifling regulations and the EPA, he's pulled us out of TPP and the Paris Climate Accord, he's renegotiating NAFTA, he fought like hell for and met repeatedly with the Republican caucus to repeal and replace Obamacare .... but the Republican Senatorial caucus wasn't having any of it. 

He's nominated dozens of federal judges .... but our esteemed Republican Senate has neither time nor interest in helping to fundamentally change the makeup of the federal bench.  (Imagine what the President could accomplish with a functioning Senate)

The President ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who had been begging for the ball.

Tax reform requires (thanks to McConnell's obstinance) 60 votes in the Senate ... so he's looking to pick off Democrat Senators to help pass it.  He's playing the cards he's been dealt .... but to so many this move proves he's Satan reincarnated.

And, yes, Bigun, the wall will be built.

I don't understand why a successful President Trump and a successful Senator Cruz cannot coexist.  They worked quite well together trying to repeal/replace Obamacare.  They were very respectful--dare I say friendly--when together in Houston after Harvey.  We shouldn't be pitting these two against each other, we should be encouraging their alliance.

And, last but not least, I like President Trump.  I still find his "candor" refreshing and I still believe him and in his agenda.  If that makes him my "beau" Bigun ..... so be it.   ^-^

The problem with what you wrote is that Trump confirms with his tweets.  Like he already confirmed that there would be a wall.  He said they are going to fix portions of the existing fence.

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Renovations, but he continues to tell different stories about the wall.  It would be impossible to know the truth.  But since he typed it himself putting it in writing on his twitter page I believe the wall is patches in the existing fence.
 

[roamer_1]

I've walked into my bosses office plenty of times and told him/her what I wanted to do and what I was going to do. And I've had folks that worked for me walk into my office and do the same. Cruz absolutely could have walked into Abbett office and gotten the OK to represent Texas.

And do you know IN FACT that DIDN'T HAPPEN? Have you considered that perhaps Cruz DID walk in but was denied? Or that Cruz had enough on his plate already, and couldn't become involved?

At best, your blaming of Cruz is by inference only (by association), and that with no knowledge of internals or of any circumstance.

Such an accusation is simply absurd.

[Smokin Joe]

Fortunately for me I was in a position to do something about it. It sounds like you were not so lucky.

I'm a (was) programmer.  So I get to write the code the way it should be written. And yes I pissed a lot of people off, until they realized I was right. More then once I saved the companies butt by going rouge and doing things I did not have permission to do. For example in my spare time I wrote and API for our system. I tried to talk the head of the company into using my API, no luck.  So I went around her and talked the PC developers into using it. I got my a$$ chewed good for that, but I knew we would get killed in the market place without an API. You just can not sell a huge document manage system without an API. A big software system needs to be layered. UI->API->Business Code->Data Store anything else is suicide via spaghetti code. Oh the API became a big selling point since a lot of other systems back then (90s) did not have one.

A lot of techies work for managers that do not have a clue on how to write modern software systems and could not program their way out of a wet paper bag. My career finally came to an end with I was stuck with a really dumb manager. Now mind you I worked at the company I (and two others) founded on a product I invented. But the a$$ I was working under INSISTED I do things his way, well his way was just horrible code so I refused and got canned. LOL. A few years later the company was sold to investors in India.

As a consultant you have the power to strongly recommend for or against a particular action. You often get to lay out your case for your recommendation. In some instances I was literally shouted down, and proved to be right in the long run. Had I been listened to, or had I the authority to make the decisions, I could have saved companies millions in wasted effort, and quite possible made them millions with other recommendations. 
I still know of an untapped unconventional gas field that no one listened about.

[Chosen Daughter]

There is an excellent article that goes into this story:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,281429.0.html

So he defended an existing law even though he didn't necessarily agree with it, maybe?

I am only holding him responsible for not disciplining whoever liked porn on his page.  I would not have staff like that when my own personal belief, faith and family ideals are contrary to it.  Contradiction.

I still would vote for Ted Cruz in a second.