Donald Trump 'might refuse to leave the White House when his term ends', expert warns

[Smokin Joe]

That's a fair criticism, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I took a look and decided to make a slight adjustment to it. I depersonalized it while maintaining my intention. Hope that helps.

I expect democrats, leftists and the media (but I repeat myself) to be NeverTrump. That's their prerogative. But, I will continue to believe that within conservative and republican ranks NeverTrump is destructive of our shared agenda and political goals.

My time is short. Later, I'll give my definition of what constitutes NeverTrumpism.

We can compare notes later, for now I would prefer not to derail the thread.

[Sanguine]

If antifa lefties and democrats, along with republican NeverTrump, manage to derail Trump's presidency, then the answer to your question will be left to the individual to contemplate in the privacy of their own thoughts.

No, that doesn't work.  The NT's here (and, I realize how dangerous it is to speak for others) don't seem to be trying to restrict your (for instance) speech, and have no control over the selection of the current president at this point.  Derailing the Trump presidency is to a great extent, up to the man himself.  So, they must want something else.

[Cripplecreek]

No, that doesn't work.  The NT's here (and, I realize how dangerous it is to speak for others) don't seem to be trying to restrict your (for instance) speech, and have no control over the selection of the current president at this point.  Derailing the Trump presidency is to a great extent, up to the man himself.  So, they must want something else.

Speaking as a Never Trumper myself, I actually want smaller government, lower taxes, and a return to federalism.

[Smokin Joe]

Speaking as a Never Trumper myself, I actually want smaller government, lower taxes, and a return to federalism.

Ditto.

[INVAR]

Oops, perhaps I wasn't clear, sweetie .... by walking to the light I was simply asking if you're coming up out of mom's basement and into the kitchen.  From your post it sounded like you were ready. 

Exactly the kind of reply one expects to receive from a Leftist festering the halls of the DU or a True Believer who unscrews their head out from inside Trump's ass long enough to vomit out an insult.

It's people like you who ensure that any support we may even reluctantly give your president, is rescinded.  People like you reinforce our contempt for your party and anyone or anything you support.

[Oceander]

Speaking as a Never Trumper myself, I actually want smaller government, lower taxes, and a return to federalism.

[massadvj]

So you're saying that we are the ones who haven't changed sides?

Nope.  I have no qualms with the NTs and respect their sense of conscience.  For me, I am not yet convinced that the Trump administration is worse than a Hillary administration would have been, and until that happens I try to keep my powder dry and criticize Trump when I think he deserves it, but commend him at times when he does something positive.  The only reason I voted for Trump is that I hoped he'd be better than Hillary, so he doesn't have a particularly high bar to clear in my mind.

So far, I have seen more to criticize from the GOP congress than from Trump. 

[Emjay]

Another difference between the right and left - during the last administration this kind of stuff was found only on WND. With Trump its now the mainstream media.

At least with WND they were reporting on a president who held the Constitution and its strictures in contempt.

Not sure why we are talking about a non-story full of bias and wild speculation.

But, hey.

[Smokin Joe]

Nope.  I have no qualms with the NTs and respect their sense of conscience.  For me, I am not yet convinced that the Trump administration is worse than a Hillary administration would have been, and until that happens I try to keep my powder dry and criticize Trump when I think he deserves it, but commend him at times when he does something positive.  The only reason I voted for Trump is that I hoped he'd be better than Hillary, so he doesn't have a particularly high bar to clear in my mind.

So far, I have seen more to criticize from the GOP congress than from Trump.

The GOP  Congress is in a class all by itself. 

[Emjay]

Oh, I thought he was constipated.   

Any reference to Ted Cruz still bringing out your classy side.

[Smokin Joe]

Not sure why we are talking about a non-story full of bias and wild speculation.

But, hey.

It's a nice break from asserting someone is a citizen of another country.

[Emjay]

   Please tell me that's not so @INVAR, If us NTer's have lost you we'll never make America Great Again.

Even @INVAR can see that Trump is being unfairly criticized.  That should tell you something.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Any reference to Ted Cruz still bringing out your classy side.

Worried you can't handle the competition? 

[Emjay]

It strikes me that a lot of the stories written by leftists and NeverTrumpers about Trump could easily have come from our side against Obama a few years back.

I think I was at least partially conscious during the Obama years and, while conservatives fought against Obama, the media did not.

There was certainly not the media onslaught and the constant, constant harping of anti-Obama stories.  In fact, the media supported him.  Big difference.

I've been using Yahoo as a search engine and it really hurt them that they had to postpone their usual headline bashing Trump to deal with that pesky little hurricane.

Really, I think we should be concerned.

[Emjay]

@Smokin Joe

Just FYI:  @aligncare is a troll and that tag line is obviously his latest bait.

Height of irony ... you calling someone a troll.  How are things in the dungeon?

[Emjay]

Seems to me that the only ones here wanting to interfere with political choices are those who constantly demand fealty from the rest of us. Even worse, they're demanding that same fealty of rightfully elected representatives and senators or else.

Its none of their damn business who I elect and they have no right to threaten to remove my congressman if he doesn't lick the boots of Orange Glorious. They can go to hell.

Let me set your heart at ease.  I don't want to interfere with your political choices and I think sending people to hell because they disagree with you is a little harsh.

[Emjay]

We can compare notes later, for now I would prefer not to derail the thread.

Nice try, but this thread was derailed about 5 posts down.  Which was appropriate as the original premise was ridiculous.

[Sanguine]

Worried you can't handle the competition?

Not to worry.  You've got that one in the bag

[Emjay]

Nope.  I have no qualms with the NTs and respect their sense of conscience.  For me, I am not yet convinced that the Trump administration is worse than a Hillary administration would have been, and until that happens I try to keep my powder dry and criticize Trump when I think he deserves it, but commend him at times when he does something positive.  The only reason I voted for Trump is that I hoped he'd be better than Hillary, so he doesn't have a particularly high bar to clear in my mind.

So far, I have seen more to criticize from the GOP congress than from Trump.

I do have qualms with the NTs and their vaunted sense of conscience.  They are just too dam good and virtuous to give any credit to Trump no matter what he does.

I have qualms because I think they hurt the conservative cause they claim to uphold.  Destroying the Trump presidency will do nothing good for conservatism.

[Smokin Joe]

Nice try, but this thread was derailed about 5 posts down.  Which was appropriate as the original premise was ridiculous.

Not even close. This popped up on page one:

But even that didn't draw folks away from commenting that they thought the MSM was going even further round the bend. Even @INVAR said he thought that the OP was nuts.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I do have qualms with the NTs and their vaunted sense of conscience.  They are just too dam good and virtuous to give any credit to Trump no matter what he does.

I have qualms because I think they hurt the conservative cause they claim to uphold.  Destroying the Trump presidency will do nothing good for conservatism.

 

[RoosGirl]

I do have qualms with the NTs and their vaunted sense of conscience.  They are just too dam good and virtuous to give any credit to Trump no matter what he does.

I have qualms because I think they hurt the conservative cause they claim to uphold.  Destroying the Trump presidency will do nothing good for conservatism.

I guess since, as you pointed out, even @INVAR is saying this article is nonsense, the true number of NTs here is about 1%.

[Oceander]

I guess since, as you pointed out, even @INVAR is saying this article is nonsense, the true number of NTs here is about 1%.

[Smokin Joe]

I do have qualms with the NTs and their vaunted sense of conscience.  They are just too dam good and virtuous to give any credit to Trump no matter what he does.

I have qualms because I think they hurt the conservative cause they claim to uphold.  Destroying the Trump presidency will do nothing good for conservatism.

Okay, darlin', that's enough horsesh*t for today. You'll strain yourself shoveling like that.

Are you folks just incapable of reading anything anyone else says good about the man? It is a real disincentive to give him any credit if it is ignored that we do so, yet we persist when he gets things right.

The conservative cause has been hurt by those claiming that man is a Conservative. Nope. He isn't, even if he does some things we all would like to see. And, being Conservatives, we don't hope for the POTUS to fail, because that hurts the whole country.

Now, why don't you just run along and bake yourself a nice road apple pie. Bless your heart, worms and all.

[TomSea]

This expert's expertise lies in watching the Sandinistas? What a joke.