62 Percent of Americans See Trump as Divider, Poll Finds

[TomSea]

62 Percent of Americans See Trump as Divider, Poll Finds

Nearly two-thirds of American voters believe President Donald Trump is doing more to divide the country than he is to unite it, according to a new poll released Wednesday.

The Quinnipiac University Poll reported 62 percent of the voters it surveyed felt that Trump is increasing divisions in the country; 31 percent said they felt the opposite.

The poll reflected public sentiment following violent clashes this month in Charlottesville, Virginia,....

Continued: https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-quinnipiac-poll/3998013.html

I think a lot of that 77 minute speech last night, was aimed at trying to straighten out some of this. It was a bad week last week, rightly or wrongly, per perceptions but I'm sure we will see an upswing.

[bigheadfred]

Voters also said they trust news media more than they trust Trump to tell the truth, by a margin of 54 percent to 36 percent. Ten percent of survey respondents said they did not know whether to trust Trump or the news media.

People are stupid.

Trump isn't set out to harm this country like the news media is.

[RoosGirl]

Voters also said they trust news media more than they trust Trump to tell the truth, by a margin of 54 percent to 36 percent. Ten percent of survey respondents said they did not know whether to trust Trump or the news media.

People are stupid.

Trump isn't set out to harm this country like the news media is.

But, to be fair, the "news media" can mean a lot of things these days.

[bigheadfred]

But, to be fair, the "news media" can mean a lot of things these days.

True. But what do people think when they are asked this question? What do you think?

How do you stand?

A co-worker, 21 years in the military, told me today he is getting an increase in his Veteran benefits (next spring). The most he has gotten in eight years. Where is the media coverage on that??

There is a thread here now about the drop in new Fed regs since Trump.

Incremental changes. But in the right direction.

My point is I think there are more positive things going on since Trump that aren't reported or under reported. And there is far too much other crap--lies--being over reported.

[Fishrrman]

"62 Percent of Americans See Trump as Divider..."

That's fine with me.

Mr. Trump certainly has been "a divider" right here in the Briefing Room!

And frankly, it's TIME "to take sides" in this country. There's clearly one side that wishes to destroy all that traditional Americans have built up for the past 225+ years. Right now, they're growing bolder... and stronger.

I want to see that side vanquished, totally. This needs to be done before we confront the even greater struggle that is worldwide -- the battle of islam v. freedom.

If we expect to win that one, we'd better win against the left here first.

[RoosGirl]

True. But what do people think when they are asked this question? What do you think?

How do you stand?

A co-worker, 21 years in the military, told me today he is getting an increase in his Veteran benefits (next spring). The most he has gotten in eight years. Where is the media coverage on that??

There is a thread here now about the drop in new Fed regs since Trump.

Incremental changes. But in the right direction.

My point is I think there are more positive things going on since Trump that aren't reported or under reported. And there is far too much other crap--lies--being over reported.

Well, I haven't had cable TV in about 3 years now and I never watch local TV via antenna so all of my news comes from reading online.  I'm sure I'm not the average person, though I doubt I am the only one like me.  I know the "news media" lies, but I also know that Trump lies.  I think I would be in that 10 percent that answered they didn't know who to trust.

I'm glad there are positive things that Trump has done.  I don't expect miracles; I'm okay with a little bit at a time.  It would be nice if it were easier to get accurate information on them.  As it is there's always some kind of spin on the piddly little stuff (like the water bottles in national parks) that get blown out of proportion with how much of a positive change it actually is.  That kind of thing wears a person down also with not knowing what to believe.

[INVAR]

62 Percent of Americans See Trump as Divider, Poll Finds

I do not think that the Art of the Dealmaker knows how to do anything but bully, ridicule and intimidate people towards his position.

Which is why he has no ability to unite a permanently divided country that no longer agrees with the foundational principles that established us.

A speech is not going to fix that problem anyway.  It's a lot bigger and deeper than most of us realize.

I doubt even Reagan could soothe the firestorm at this stage.  Two generations or more WANT Communism and Marxism and to punish Whitey and the Producers and take what they have using the government to do it under the color of law.

A speech does not fix that.

That is a major character and soul problem of a people.

One man cannot fix it.

[bigheadfred]

It all wears me out, @RoosGirl and @INVAR. My main thought throughout last fall in the political sense was "You have got to be effing kidding me."

I only really talk to 4 people at work. They are much more aware of what is happening in this country than they were a year ago.

See what I am saying? This country was divided before Trump. He has merely helped to define that divide.

[RoosGirl]

It all wears me out, @RoosGirl and @INVAR. My main thought throughout last fall in the political sense was "You have got to be effing kidding me."

  Haha, yep!

I only really talk to 4 people at work. They are much more aware of what is happening in this country than they were a year ago.

See what I am saying? This country was divided before Trump. He has merely helped to define that divide.

Yes, I said something similar on the thread you just caught up with regarding ditching the Republican party.  Basically that people had been saying for a while that the Republicans had moved past wanting conservatives in the party, but it took Trump winning the nomination for the dumbest of us (meaning me!) to believe them.

[dfwgator]

Good. Unity is overrated.

[truth_seeker]

Are the 62% only those who voted last December, or every adult, etc.?

Start with virtually all democrats (Hillary voters) that are against Trump, which accounts for 50 of the supposed 62.

Then a degree of skepticism over the whole idea of dividing the country.

I remember vividly summer 1968, with riots at the democrat convention in Chicago. College campuses were up in arms over Vietnam.

Nixon won however. And won by a lot more in 1972, divided or not.

Saying the nation is "divided" is just one of the media's standard themes, like calling Republicans and conservatives Nazis etc.

They do everything they can to make it divided, or to seem that way.

1968 Summer Olympics, Mexico City

[bigheadfred]

Good. Unity is overrated.

And familiarity breeds contempt.

[bigheadfred]

Are the 62% only those who voted last December, or every adult, etc.?

Start with virtually all democrats (Hillary voters) that are against Trump, which accounts for 50 of the supposed 62.

Then a degree of skepticism over the whole idea of dividing the country.

I remember vividly summer 1968, with riots at the democrat convention in Chicago. College campuses were up in arms over Vietnam.

Nixon won however. And won by a lot more in 1972, divided or not.

Saying the nation is "divided" is just one of the media's standard themes, like calling Republicans and conservatives Nazis etc.

They do everything they can to make it divided, or to seem that way.

1968 Summer Olympics, Mexico City

I think it is more divided. People see their way of life going away, with no hope of replacing it. Or what they are replacing it with is something they don't want. The people out there eager to be replacement parts don't seem to understand how good they have it.

I can only speak for myself. I am more to one side now than I have ever been. Throughout my life I have always treated both sides with equal contempt. That has changed.

[corbe]

   These polls are asking these stupid questions of the same 3.3 million people that somehow found satisfaction in the final choice of hellary vs. Trump. 
   Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Perhaps we might compile a Conservative Thesaurus here at TBR.

Unity: synonym for Surrender

Bipartisan: synonym for Date Rape

Divider: synonym for Refuses to sell out the people who voted for them


Would anyone care to offer any more?

[dfwgator]

Are the 62% only those who voted last December, or every adult, etc.?

Start with virtually all democrats (Hillary voters) that are against Trump, which accounts for 50 of the supposed 62.

Then a degree of skepticism over the whole idea of dividing the country.

I remember vividly summer 1968, with riots at the democrat convention in Chicago. College campuses were up in arms over Vietnam.

Nixon won however. And won by a lot more in 1972, divided or not.

Saying the nation is "divided" is just one of the media's standard themes, like calling Republicans and conservatives Nazis etc.

They do everything they can to make it divided, or to seem that way.

1968 Summer Olympics, Mexico City

This also happened in the 1968 Summer Olympics....

[skeeter]

Perhaps we might compile a Conservative Thesaurus here at TBR.

Unity: synonym for Surrender

Bipartisan: synonym for Date Rape

Divider: synonym for Refuses to sell out the people who voted for them


Would anyone care to offer any more?

Racist = anyone who's opinion upsets a progressive

[bigheadfred]

Can I be a conservative and an ahole at the same time?

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Racist = anyone who's opinion upsets a progressive

 

Keep 'em coming folks.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Well, I haven't had cable TV in about 3 years now and I never watch local TV via antenna so all of my news comes from reading online.  I'm sure I'm not the average person, though I doubt I am the only one like me.  I know the "news media" lies, but I also know that Trump lies.  I think I would be in that 10 percent that answered they didn't know who to trust.

I'm glad there are positive things that Trump has done.  I don't expect miracles; I'm okay with a little bit at a time.  It would be nice if it were easier to get accurate information on them.  As it is there's always some kind of spin on the piddly little stuff (like the water bottles in national parks) that get blown out of proportion with how much of a positive change it actually is.  That kind of thing wears a person down also with not knowing what to believe.

On another thread a poster referenced a quote attributed to "no one".  Being pretty sure I'd seen that quote regularly attributed to Jefferson, I looked it up.  Yep, several references.  But also some to de Tocqueville, Franklin and (spit) Hamilton.  The majority pointed to a Scot named Tytler or Tyler (depending on your source, I found multiple references to both), though one article said there was no (found) direct reference to him saying it until about 150 years later.

So, it appears that someone quite possibly said it, and the most likely person is someone history is not even solid on how his name was spelled.

What to believe, indeed.

[bigheadfred]

Keep 'em coming folks.

Progressive=Regressive--one step to the left and two steps back.

[corbe]

Can I be a conservative and an ahole at the same time?

   Absolutely @bigheadfred according to the Trumpers that's the only 2 questions Myst ask on new memberships.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

1968 Summer Olympics, Mexico City

Ahhh.  The good old days.  I'm looking forward to repeating them.

It's so weird.  I know this "nation divided" meme was created by the fake news, but I can't help but feel like the country really, really is divided.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Progressive=Regressive--one step to the left and two steps back.

There's another keeper


Progressive: synonym for regressive, retrograde.

[Emjay]

Voters also said they trust news media more than they trust Trump to tell the truth, by a margin of 54 percent to 36 percent. Ten percent of survey respondents said they did not know whether to trust Trump or the news media.

People are stupid.

Trump isn't set out to harm this country like the news media is.

We are at a point now where we cannot trust the media on ANYTHING.

This poll, for example.