Hurricane Harvey Public Advisory

[GrouchoTex]

Shallow water flat bottom boats are cheap and last a long time in storage. Not exactly a large expense for something that seems to happen often enough to justify them. Who should pay for it, the people who live there. People who live in snow country pay for snow equipment. People who live in fire country pay for forest fire equipment including aircraft that fight fire. It comes with where you choose to live. It is incumbent on the community to prepare for what nature dishes out in a foreseeable way in their area - and not the rest of the country. And no, I don't want to mandate any of this. Some things are just common sense or suffer the consequences. Their choice.

The cities and counties have them (dive teams too).This thing just hit areas that hadn't flooded before.
Never mind me. I'll be back to my cheerful self after I get some sleep and morning coffee.
Just been a long few days, but spirits are up, family and house are well. I can't complain, but it won't stop my from trying LOL.

[Sanguine]

My two cents:

First of all, this isn't something that came out of nowhere.  Last Wednesday when Harvey was still a tropical depression, reports were warning of up to 30 inches of rain for the Texas coast including Houston.  So for those who say there was no time because Harvey became a Cat 3 hurricane in less than 30 hrs, this is a non-issue.   It was never hurricane winds that threatened Houston.  It was always the rain.



By Friday, the warning had surpassed 40 in.  Every indication showed that the storm would stall and dump "biblical" amounts of rain.


Now for the politics of it.  It was the mayor's office that chose to politicized the non-evacuation.  After the Governor issued his Friday statement, “You don’t want to put yourself in a situation where you could be subject to a search and rescue.", the director of Harris County Emergency Services mocked the Governor's advice by tweeting in all-caps that "LOCAL LEADERS KNOW BEST".

Bottom line, if the weather people are telling you for three days that the flood of a century is coming, and you happen to live in low elevation areas, then you have no business listening to any official telling you to SIP in an area that is going to be under water soon.

Of course none of this takes away from the seriousness of this tragedy.  But when the mayor's office decides to use this event to score some political points against the governor, then they deserve being called out on it.

We understand all of that.  However, we still have people in mortal peril, and now is not the time to start pointing fingers and apportioning blame. 

[Elderberry]

Made it thru Day3 OK.  43.6 inches of rain so far. Rain has been continuous but not heavy torrents.

[Elderberry]

[txradioguy]

Made it thru Day3 OK.  43.6 inches of rain so far. Rain has been continuous but not heavy torrents.

@Elderberry looks like up here at Ft. Knox we're going to get what Harvey doesn't dump on you and on New Orleans.  My Weather Channel app is showing were in the path of what ever type of storm Harvey might still be this weekend.

I'm glad you're still safe and dry too.

[Hoodat]

We understand all of that.  However, we still have people in mortal peril, and now is not the time to start pointing fingers and apportioning blame.

Fair enough.  Not meaning to assess blame.  Just saying that city officials can't have it both ways.

btw, Georgians are mobilizing to send supplies.  This disaster will leave a testimony of the goodness of people coming together to help each other.  It may be just what America needed.

"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.  .  .  .  Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.  For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

[Sanguine]

Fair enough.  Not meaning to assess blame.  Just saying that city officials can't have it both ways.

btw, Georgians are mobilizing to send supplies.  This disaster will leave a testimony of the goodness of people coming together to help each other.  It may be just what America needed.

"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.  .  .  .  Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.  For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

It is very heartening isn't it?

[Bigun]

Made it thru Day3 OK.  43.6 inches of rain so far. Rain has been continuous but not heavy torrents.

Only 25.62" at my house and still ok. Probably could find aroute to get me off my hill today if I needed to.

[libertybele]

Only 25.62" at my house and still ok. Probably could find aroute to get me off my hill today if I needed to.

Glad everything is ok.  Still praying for no more heavy downpours and that the rain stops.

[Sanguine]

@thackney, I hope you're doing OK today.   

[thackney]

@thackney, I hope you're doing OK today.

Thank you.  Brazos River rising is backing up creeks & bayous flooding area around us.  I pray we won't have to evac a 3rd time.  Now we would have to take 92 yr old in wheel chair.

[txradioguy]

Thank you.  Brazos River rising is backing up creeks & bayous flooding area around us.  I pray we won't have to evac a 3rd time.  Now we would have to take 92 yr old in wheel chair.

Just my 2 cents...but if you have to move someone in a wheel chair...better to do it when you think you have to and have an escape route...rather than when you have to move and the route is under water.

But hopefully it won't come to any of that.

[austingirl]

Made it thru Day3 OK.  43.6 inches of rain so far. Rain has been continuous but not heavy torrents.

Glad you are hanging in there. In Medina we got less than an inch of rain total. I learned that our little town had 48 inches of rain in 1978 from Amelia and I can't imagine. I know what 9 inches in one day did here a couple of years ago. Stay safe.

[GrouchoTex]

Thank you.  Brazos River rising is backing up creeks & bayous flooding area around us.  I pray we won't have to evac a 3rd time.  Now we would have to take 92 yr old in wheel chair.

Brazos river expected to crest today at record level.
99 closed between 59 and 90a due to structural integrity of the bridge.
It was under repair before the storm came.
April 2016,tax day flood, I had to stop and pull over for 8 hours just south of the barker reservoir.
Yesterday, they were pulling people out with boats in that same neighborhood.
60 miles NE, Kingwood has water rescues.
60 miles SW Dickerson had the same.
Folks, this thing is huge.

[GrouchoTex]

Watching Baytown rescues on Channel 13 now.

[GrouchoTex]

Made it thru Day3 OK.  43.6 inches of rain so far. Rain has been continuous but not heavy torrents.

@Elderberry

What area are you in, if you don't mine sharing that?

FYI, watching rainfall totals for the local are last night.

The LOWEST total was 22+ inches

[txradioguy]

From Fox News:

An already-swollen reservoir west of downtown Houston overtopped its spillway Tuesday, sending an "uncontrolled release" of Harvey's floodwaters into nearby neighborhoods, and putting the besieged city into "uncharted territory," officials said.

[GrouchoTex]

Channel 13 switched to Katy area, Barker Cypress near I-10, more water rescues.
Addickcks reservoir area.
Lady interviewed says she's lived there since 1996 and it hadn't flooded before.

[txradioguy]

Just got a news alert on my phone that officials in Brazoria County are saying that the levee there has been breached.

Hope no one here is in that area.  Prayers for the people affected.

[GrouchoTex]

Thank you.  Brazos River rising is backing up creeks & bayous flooding area around us.  I pray we won't have to evac a 3rd time.  Now we would have to take 92 yr old in wheel chair.

@thackney
Riverstone subdivision was on Channel 13 just now.
Water rescue.
Please be careful.

[musiclady]

Brazos river expected to crest today at record level.
99 closed between 59 and 90a due to structural integrity of the bridge.
It was under repair before the storm came.
April 2016,tax day flood, I had to stop and pull over for 8 hours just south of the barker reservoir.
Yesterday, they were pulling people out with boats in that same neighborhood.
60 miles NE, Kingwood has water rescues.
60 miles SW Dickerson had the same.
Folks, this thing is huge.

It's unimaginable for most of us. 

Lest I be repetitive, you are all in our prayers.   

[Bigun]

Just got a news alert on my phone that officials in Brazoria County are saying that the levee there has been breached.

Hope no one here is in that area.  Prayers for the people affected.

Columbia Lakes subdivision is in immediate danger.

[txradioguy]

Lest I be repetitive, you are all in our prayers.

@musiclady

Ma'am in times such as this there is no such thing as being repetitive when it comes offering prayers.

[musiclady]

@musiclady

Ma'am in times such as this there is no such thing as being repetitive when it comes offering prayers.

This is so devastating, I am fighting tears as I read.  May God protect the people of Texas.  Property can be rebuilt.  It's the people who matter in situations like this.


btw, I was looking for Ft. Knox on our map of Texas.  Where is it in relation to Houston and NO?

[Bigun]

This is so devastating, I am fighting tears as I read.  May God protect the people of Texas.  Property can be rebuilt.  It's the people who matter in situations like this.


btw, I was looking for Ft. Knox on our map of Texas.  Where is it in relation to Houston and NO?

About 1000 miles NE in Kentucky.