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Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« on: August 22, 2017, 08:02:55 pm »
Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats

By Nikki Schwab, U.s. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com

Published: 15:14 EDT, 22 August 2017 | Updated: 15:43 EDT, 22 August 2017


Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner are among a set of White House aides pushing President Trump to allow illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to stay, in an effort to get Democrats to fund the president's border wall.

McClatchy reported that the group of White House officials have suggested using so-called 'Dreamers' as a bargaining chip, in order to check off some of the president's campaign promises on immigration, including the wall, additional detention facilities, an E-verify system for employers and cuts to legal immigration.

However, such a move would break another campaign promise, as candidate Donald Trump had pledged to supporters last August to 'immediately terminate President Obama's two illegal executive amnesties,' including DACA, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. 

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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 11:23:25 pm »
Ugh.
Bring back Bannon.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 11:58:37 pm »
Ahem.....

TOLD YA SO
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 11:59:24 pm »
Nothing wrong with a little pragmatism, right?
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2017, 12:30:12 am »
Im shocked, just blindsided that the unelected liberals in the White House would try to promote this with Trump!

First I was


Then I was like


Now I'm just waiting to be told
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 12:34:45 am »
Quote from: Oceander on August 22, 2017, 11:58:37 pm
Ahem.....

TOLD YA SO

What was that? I couldn't hear you...
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2017, 12:36:26 am »
Quote from: GtHawk on August 23, 2017, 12:30:12 am
Im shocked, just blindsided that the unelected liberals in the White House would try to promote this with Trump!

First I was


Then I was like


Now I'm just waiting to be told


Shall I be the first to say that it's better than Hillary?
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2017, 12:51:03 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on August 23, 2017, 12:36:26 am
Shall I be the first to say that it's better than Hillary?
Well it hasn't happened yet, nor does it say, that I saw that Trump is for it and while we all know that Hillary would have pushing for this from the start, I don't think anyone could say that they didn't expect to hear this kind of thing Ivanka and Co.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 12:54:15 am by GtHawk »
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2017, 01:10:51 am »
It wouldn't surprise me but aside from a quote from a FAIR spokesman I can't see any sources for this info.

There's been so much Shmutz coming out of the media concerning this president rather than belly bumping I would think prudently waiting for the story to develop would be called for.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2017, 01:14:41 am »
Some horsetrading has to go on. I'm certainly not for this but sometimes, things don't get done without some give and take. Barry Goldwater knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this.

But some of the "Super Conservatives" who get nothing done will have nothing to do with this.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2017, 01:27:32 am »
Quote from: TomSea on August 23, 2017, 01:14:41 am
Some horsetrading has to go on. I'm certainly not for this but sometimes, things don't get done without some give and take. Barry Goldwater knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this.

But some of the "Super Conservatives" who get nothing done will have nothing to do with this.

Pretend Conservatives who are nothing but party hack bootlickers have done nothing but trade away and surrender any semblance of Conservatism from themselves to the point we no longer can tell the difference between them and your typical radical Democrat Leftist.

One is simply louder than the other, while the quieter one begs and beseeches the rest of his party to compromise and be pragmatic with accepting more Leftism as a necessity, because 'it is how you get things done'.

Like making ObamaCare permanent.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2017, 01:31:04 am »
Quote from: TomSea on August 23, 2017, 01:14:41 am
Some horsetrading has to go on. I'm certainly not for this but sometimes, things don't get done without some give and take. Barry Goldwater knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this.

But some of the "Super Conservatives" who get nothing done will have nothing to do with this.

Disagree here. Any degree of legalization of illegals at all undercuts the argument for protecting the borders in the first place. Like allowing a thief to keep your TV in exchange for a promise not to break into your house again.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 01:40:45 am »
Quote from: TomSea on August 23, 2017, 01:14:41 am
Some horsetrading has to go on. I'm certainly not for this but sometimes, things don't get done without some give and take. Barry Goldwater knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this.

But some of the "Super Conservatives" who get nothing done will have nothing to do with this.
Amazing, how the Pubs always have to do horestrading to get things done when they are in power, every time the Pubs horsetrade, especially on immigration, all we end up with for it is the what drops out the back end of the horse. How many times have we had immigration reform and amnesty? And how many times was it supposed to be the last time? Close the damn border and stop rewarding illegals!
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2017, 01:42:31 am »
Quote from: GtHawk on August 23, 2017, 01:40:45 am
Amazing, how the Pubs always have to do horestrading to get things done when they are in power, every time the Pubs horsetrade, especially on immigration, all we end up with for it is the what drops out the back end of the horse. How many times have we had immigration reform and amnesty? And how many times was it supposed to be the last time? Close the damn border and stop rewarding illegals!

You missed the 'W'
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2017, 01:47:37 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on August 23, 2017, 01:42:31 am
You missed the 'W'
You mean the compassionate conservative, no not really, but one can't help how many Evers reamed "W" for the same kind of compassion this artice presents as Ivanka an Co. ideal for Daddy? :thud:
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 01:58:43 am »
Like it or not, it's the proper thing to do. 

I don't like it...but it does blunt the cries of "Nazi" and "Racist" baloney.

...and gives pause to the American Hispanic born to illegal parents ..when evaluating Donald Trump.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2017, 01:58:59 am »
Quote from: TomSea on August 23, 2017, 01:14:41 am
Some horsetrading has to go on. I'm certainly not for this but sometimes, things don't get done without some give and take. Barry Goldwater knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this.

But some of the "Super Conservatives" who get nothing done will have nothing to do with this.

Yes, just like 0bamacare.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2017, 02:05:34 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 23, 2017, 01:58:43 am
Like it or not, it's the proper thing to do. 

I don't like it...but it does blunt the cries of "Nazi" and "Racist" baloney.

...and gives pause to the American Hispanic born to illegal parents ..when evaluating Donald Trump.
I disagree that giving them Citizenship is the right thing to do, I will flex to the point that giving them legal residency would be something to look at, but Citizenship no. As far as the charges of "Nazi" and "Racist", there is nothing on God's earth that will ever be enough for the slingers of those appelations, as we've seen not even death.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2017, 02:12:38 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 23, 2017, 01:58:43 am
Like it or not, it's the proper thing to do. 

I don't like it...but it does blunt the cries of "Nazi" and "Racist" baloney.

...and gives pause to the American Hispanic born to illegal parents ..when evaluating Donald Trump.

"Dreamers" under DACA's definition today might be as old as 36.

As far as them meeting the other requirements for being a "Dreamer", such as having been brought here before age 16, I guess we have to take their word for it.

No sale.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 02:13:04 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 23, 2017, 01:58:43 am
Like it or not, it's the proper thing to do. 

I don't like it...but it does blunt the cries of "Nazi" and "Racist" baloney.

...and gives pause to the American Hispanic born to illegal parents ..when evaluating Donald Trump.

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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2017, 02:15:56 am »
Quote from: GtHawk on August 23, 2017, 01:47:37 am
You mean the compassionate conservative, no not really, but one can't help how many Evers reamed "W" for the same kind of compassion this artice presents as Ivanka an Co. ideal for Daddy? :thud:

Haha, I didn't mean *that* W.  I was playing with your little typo....  horsetrading vs horestrading vs whorestrading  :)
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2017, 02:17:16 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 23, 2017, 01:58:43 am
Like it or not, it's the proper thing to do. 

I don't like it...but it does blunt the cries of "Nazi" and "Racist" baloney.

...and gives pause to the American Hispanic born to illegal parents ..when evaluating Donald Trump.

To paraphrase: We'll have them wetbacks voting Republican for the next 50 years.
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 02:20:29 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on August 23, 2017, 02:15:56 am
Haha, I didn't mean *that* W.  I was playing with your little typo....  horsetrading vs horestrading vs whorestrading  :)
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Okay Thanks, I have to be extra careful, I have nerve damage and sometimes my hands don't listen to my brain and I miss things, of course when you consider who in government will be doing the trading.............maybe your version is right. :beer:
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Re: Jared and Ivanka push Trump to give citizenship to illegals brought as children in move toward immigration deal with Democrats
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 10:01:30 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 23, 2017, 01:58:43 am
Like it or not, it's the proper thing to do. 

Oh, the hell you say!
NO, it is NOT the right thing to do.
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