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Why RINOS Must Go
« on: August 10, 2017, 11:39:33 am »
August 10, 2017
Why RINOS Must Go
By Blain Winship

The time is long overdue for ridding the Republican Party of the Republicans-In-Name-Only (“RINOs”) populating much of our government. For many decades, they have traveled under the euphemistic but false label of “moderates” as they sided with the liberals/progressives/socialists of the Democratic Party against Republican conservatives who believe in personal freedom, personal responsibility, a limited federal government, and the Constitution of the United States as “We the People” ordained and amended it. To recognize who the RINOs are, appreciate why they must be removed from office, and maximize our prospects for success in this mission, it is worth considering how they came to hold such sway over our politics.

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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2017, 12:12:05 pm »
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The time is long overdue for ridding the Republican Party of the Republicans-In-Name-Only (“RINOs”)

Newsflash:  The Republican Party has always been a center-right political party.  "RINO" in the context it is always used simply does not make sense and illustrates a deep misunderstanding of conservative influence.

"CINO" --- Conservatives-In-Name-Only ---would better define those "long overdue for ridding". And if it couldn't be done back in the 1980's the chances of it happening 35 years later are between slim and none.

Perhaps conservatives would be better off learning how to work and play well with others and focusing on strategic victories instead of a purge that isn't realistic???
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 12:35:43 pm »
Agreed, RIV.  The difference between so-called "RINOs" and those who despise them may simply be pragmatism.   Ideological purity isn't particularly useful in the real world; ranting on the internet doesn't craft good policy.  It appears the ACA reform bill failed because of, IMO, its most insignificant part - the insistence by social conservatives that it include the defunding of Planned Parenthood. 

The GOP is not a conservative party, it is a center-right party.   RINOs and conservatives had better learn to co-exist,  because the party's failure to take advantage of its window of opportunity will be rightly punished by the voters.   

 
 
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 12:45:27 pm »
@rangerrebew

Studies of voters in the past indicate the majority of voters are happy with their representative/senator but they think "other" reps and senators, not theirs, should be voted out.
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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 12:47:41 pm »
Conservatives will be expected to surrender more principles, character and expectations and embrace bigger, but better run Statist Government if they wish to remain in the Republican Party and get along with the Liberals and Democrats who now populate and control it.

Any Conservative who wants to retain their worldview of less government, more individual liberty and more reverence for the foundational principles that made liberty possible - Conservatives will need to get out of the corrupt Uniparty and focus on establishing a new home and support party.

Them's facts.

Trump and McConnell already told us to get out of the party.  Their perverted rules in 2012 and again last year made it perfectly clear that grassroots Conservatives are not wanted, and their propagandists on this board and elsewhere make that point perfectly clear as well.

Let them have their dead, corrupt and Liberal party.  Let the dead bury their own dead.  They can fight with the Democrats over which of them is the more compassionate party of big government.

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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 12:53:05 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on August 10, 2017, 12:47:41 pm

.../  Let the dead bury their own dead. 

Nope, no irrational fury here.   Wow.   :thud:
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 01:00:55 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 10, 2017, 12:53:05 pm
Nope, no irrational fury here.   Wow.   :thud:

I think the current fruits of your party make that paraphrased statement self-evident.

For any Conservative governed by their principles, the Republican party is a dead party.

Might as well vote for a Democrat, same difference.  At least you know what you will get with a Democrat. 

Republicans talk Conservative to get elected and then caucus with and pass the Democrat agenda.

Dead party.  Leave them to bury themselves.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 01:00:56 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 10, 2017, 12:53:05 pm
Nope, no irrational fury here.   Wow.   :thud:

INVAR thinks it wise to cut off his nose to spite his face.

Most here see his "wisdom" for what it is - petulance and irrationality.     
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 01:04:59 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on August 10, 2017, 01:00:56 pm
INVAR thinks it wise to cut off his nose to spite his face.

Most here see his "wisdom" for what it is - petulance and irrationality.   

Coming from you - I'll take that compliment.

Thanks.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2017, 01:05:10 pm »
@INVAR

Some people don't understand the more intelligent.  INVAR, you are one of the most intelligent here.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 01:15:27 pm »
A perfect example of the double edged sword of the two party system.  Nancy Pelosi rules with an iron fist and if you don't toe the party line you'll never ever get re-elected to office again.  She'll make sure of it and there is no such thing as compromise in her book.  All of which allows them to pass mountains of laws they favor and dismiss out of hand laws they do not.

Then you have the Republicans . . .
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 01:30:34 pm »
Quote from: Hondo69 on August 10, 2017, 01:15:27 pm
A perfect example of the double edged sword of the two party system.  Nancy Pelosi rules with an iron fist and if you don't toe the party line you'll never ever get re-elected to office again.  She'll make sure of it and there is no such thing as compromise in her book.  All of which allows them to pass mountains of laws they favor and dismiss out of hand laws they do not.

Then you have the Republicans . . .

@Hondo69

Pretty much nailed it!  :beer:

Anyone can say he is a Republican and run for office under that label.  We have had quite an epidemic of that right here in Texas in fact and it's effects are brutally apparent if you are paying any attention at all to what is going on in the currently ongoing special session of the Texas legislature.  It's going to be up to the voters in individual districts to sort the wheat from the chaff!
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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2017, 01:37:27 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 10, 2017, 12:12:05 pm
Newsflash:  The Republican Party has always been a center-right political party.  "RINO" in the context it is always used simply does not make sense and illustrates a deep misunderstanding of conservative influence.

"CINO" --- Conservatives-In-Name-Only ---would better define those "long overdue for ridding". And if it couldn't be done back in the 1980's the chances of it happening 35 years later are between slim and none.

Perhaps conservatives would be better off learning how to work and play well with others and focusing on strategic victories instead of a purge that isn't realistic???

Perhaps Trump and his minions would be better served by following the same advice you espouse in the last paragraph?
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2017, 01:45:57 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on August 10, 2017, 01:37:27 pm
Perhaps Trump and his minions would be better served by following the same advice you espouse in the last paragraph?

Priebus and McConnell and the rest of the Establishment Oligarchy have already made their demand of a purge.

So Principeld Conservatives like me are done and gone from a party that has declared us an enemy because we refused to bend the knee to yet more liberalism and Liberal candidates they demanded we get behind.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2017, 01:50:12 pm by INVAR »
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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2017, 01:46:32 pm »

Minions. Now there's rational discourse for you. Oy Vey.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2017, 01:47:33 pm »
First out the door would be Trump and his ilk.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2017, 01:51:42 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on August 10, 2017, 01:47:33 pm
First out the door would be Trump and his ilk.

Yup.

Unfortunately they seem to enjoy Trump slapping them across the face with his junk on a daily basis.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2017, 01:57:51 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on August 10, 2017, 01:46:32 pm
Minions. Now there's rational discourse for you. Oy Vey.

Minion is defined as "a follower or underling of a powerful person, especially a servile or unimportant one."

That would make me a minion of Reagan and Cruz.
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Re: Why RINOS Must Go
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2017, 01:58:22 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on August 10, 2017, 12:35:43 pm

The GOP is not a conservative party, it is a center-right party.   RINOs and conservatives had better learn to co-exist,  because the party's failure to take advantage of its window of opportunity will be rightly punished by the voters.   

 

Reagan was the "RINO" back in the day.  The establishment Country-Club Republicans despised Reagan every bit as much as they did Goldwater,  it was only after Reagan won that the came around, for the time being,   but as soon as Reagan left,  George Bush didn't even let the seat get cold before it was right back to "Business as Usual" for the GOP.
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2017, 02:07:45 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on August 10, 2017, 01:51:42 pm
Yup.

Unfortunately they seem to enjoy Trump slapping them across the face with his junk on a daily basis.

I noticed that too.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2017, 02:10:11 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on August 10, 2017, 01:58:22 pm
Reagan was the "RINO" back in the day.  The establishment Country-Club Republicans despised Reagan every bit as much as they did Goldwater,  it was only after Reagan won that the came around, for the time being,   but as soon as Reagan left,  George Bush didn't even let the seat get cold before it was right back to "Business as Usual" for the GOP.

Conservatives have no real place or voice in the Republican Party.  Their leadership have set the rules in motion so that they can never be challenged.

The fruits of the last several months if not years are self evident.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2017, 02:15:03 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on August 10, 2017, 02:07:45 pm
I noticed that too.

Its embarrassing to watch thousands of morons chanting "Lock her up" at the grinning idiot on stage who has repeatedly made it clear that he never had any intent of seeing the Clintons punished.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2017, 02:29:00 pm »
All of the labels being used today - center-right, 'ideological pure', conservative, etc - obfuscate the true nature of the issue.

To state the obvious, this political contest is simply between those who insist on self determination at the level envisioned by the founders and those for whatever reason believe the government should exercise more control over their lives.

The only variable is the degree of control - the 'conservative' GOP at one end and the progressives democrats & socialists at the other. None of them have any motivation to allow the citizens they represent the kind of self determination the founders sought. Its just not in their personal interest.

The only hope is an informed electorate who appreciates our heritage and wants to take control of their own destiny. And we all know what the likelihood of that is.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 02:33:52 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on August 10, 2017, 01:45:57 pm

So Principeld Conservatives like me are done and gone from a party

And stay gone.  Fringies belong in a fringe party. 
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 02:48:07 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on August 10, 2017, 02:33:52 pm
And stay gone.  Fringies belong in a fringe party.

I'll remember to duck my head when the storm troopers put me in the back of their squad car.

Enjoy your next 3 and a half years in power, jazz.
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